The NeoCONS have created a world that HATES us.

[Just Me]

They haven't improved our security. They haven't improved world stability. They haven't improved our economic standing (oh OH except for those who profiteer off war and violence). They haven't improved "democracy". Aw hell, to the contrary, they have violated practically EVERY democratic notion upon which this nation stands and BRAGS.

They haven't abided by the laws that everyone else is expected to abide. Actually, they have deceived/betrayed/defrauded the very people they are SUPPOSE TO SERVE.

They have divided their own nation, ON PURPOSE. They have INTENTIONALLY funneled monies intended to empower the American people to the military, the DOD which has provided billions to private corporations that seek power and profit, not service to the American people.

They have instilled fear in the weakest among us: the elderly, the poor, our children. They have doomed us all into a servitude in their PNAC, benefitting the richest and oppressing the rest of the 90% of us.

They have been doing such things for half a century across the earth: advantaging themselves off the weak. Now, we are invited to be their victims.

Wonder why the world hates us? You won't wonder much longer because YOU are now being treated the same way these "crazies" have treated the rest of the world: mere "objects" for sale and "consumers" to manipulate.

[still_one]

1. they did it with the help of a lot of people who didn't bother to vote

voting machine problems or NOT, if the people came out in NUMBERS both in 2000 and 2004 the democrats would have won

Sorry, but there is plenty of blame to go around

In fact, we DESERVE the government we elect, whether we show up to vote or NOT

[Just Me]

3. I ask you, kindly, to respect the victims and attack the aggressors.

I respectfully disagree with your proposition that we "deserve" the government we get when that government has,....

,...well, nevermind,...

I have a feeling this will lead to something other than a discussion about reality and what would be required to empower the disillusioned, rather than criticism of their,...helplessness.

[still_one]

4. all I am saying is people could have voted

in fact, every other country the turnout is at LEAST 60%

Let's see what happens in 2006

and no, this dialog will NOT lead to anything where you do NOT want it to lead since you started the thread

[Just Me]

6. I see it this way: leadership inspires its people.

This cabal have pacified/brainwashed/disempowerd its own people, ON PURPOSE.

HOW CRIMINAL IS THAT,...in a country that brags of freedom and democracy and progress?

How criminal is the intentional manipulation, intentional deceipt of this leadership against its own people?

How criminal is that intentional deception FOR PROFIT resulting in the destruction of several nations, the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people who did NOTHING to harm us?

HOW CRIMINAL IS THAT?????

The world sees this criminal leadership as it is,...hates it,...and is hating all of us because WE THE PEOPLE are suppose to be in charge. But, we're not. We are victims, too. And those criminals should face the "rule of law". Ultimately, they will,...if only those "wheels of justice" would gain horse power.

[me b zola]

2. Watching cnn a hour or so ago...

They were showing mass demonstrations in several ME nations that were decrying Israel & the US for their actions (or lack there of) and their policies.

I think that the US is intentionally destablizing the region. Evil reigns in chaos.



You are correct. The neocons have worked damned hard to create so much hate against US. It is meant to keep people fearful and practically beg daddy neocon to take away their civil rights. :(

[Just Me]

5. If you study the Neocons, destabilization is their religion.

[Just Me]

7. If "fault" must be assigned,...bring these people to a court of law.

Deliver them to an international court.

I am an American citizen. I press charges against this, this neocon cult that executed a coup against the United States of America.

The charges include: fraud, war crimes, illegal wiretapping, obstruction of justice, laundering, RICO, treason, (if I were a prosecutor, I could assert, at least several hundred charges).

Immunity does not protect politicos who INTENTIONALLY broke laws.