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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:38 AM
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Just out of curiousity..... who here is actually old enough to...
remember seeing Anwar Sadat being murdered?

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:39 AM
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1. Sadly. n/t
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:49 PM
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66. Sadat AND Rabin. nt
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:40 AM
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2. Raising hand.
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 08:48 AM by calico1
But then, I am also old enough to have seen RFK's assasination.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:41 AM
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3. Me. n/t
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:41 AM
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4. while i wasn't at the parade...
i definitely remember seeing it on the tv news.

i was in college at the time.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:41 AM
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5. I am.
It was a sad day for those who admired a talented statesman who advocated peace.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:59 PM
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72. I am also - indeed, I was older then than most DUers are now.
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 03:02 PM by TahitiNut
I remember seeing Sadat live on television when he agreed in an interview with Ted Koppel(?) to meet with Begin.

Anwar Sadat became a hero to me. When I learned how his wife, in an Islamic society, was an advocate for women's rights including the rights over their own bodies and was active in the Egyptian "outback" engaged in such advocacy and teaching birth control, I knew then that the Sadats were truly courageous and enlightened liberals.

His assassination was truly a tragic loss for the whole world.


Hell ... I was a 20-year-old when JFK was assasinated and 25 when MLK and RFK were assassinated. I'll remember those days better than any of my own birthdays until the day I die.
:cry:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:41 AM
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6. I got my drivers license that day...
I came home, all smiles, only to see his brutal assassination being replayed on TV. :(
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ohioliberal Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:41 AM
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7. It was a sad day! n/t
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:42 AM
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8. Me, (hand waving), me.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:43 AM
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9. Old enough, but I didn't see the video clips until they were in a
documentary of some sort.


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flobee1 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:44 AM
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10. saw it in the evening news as a kid
I remember being shocked at the amount of blood all over the place
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:44 AM
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11. I remember it with great sadness...
Until then I had hopes peace might finally come to the Middle East, no longer.
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Tammie Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:45 AM
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12. Me too
Sad, sad day.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:45 AM
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13. I was... n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:46 AM
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14. Me n/t
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:47 AM
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15. Me, it was so sad....
Sadat was one of my heroes.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:47 AM
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16. Me, but then I remember my mom crying when FDR died
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 08:48 AM by cmd
Too much sadness. Too many great lives lost. The most poignant for me was the day JFK was killed. The world changed forever for me after that.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:00 AM
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29. Wow! You should write journal postings on what seemingly...
minor events you have witnessed.... have played out to be major.

Many Conservatives study history in a vacuum and that enables them to justify all kinds of foolishness......

The continuity you have seen may make people change their minds
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:06 PM
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59. I think I may do that
Earlier this week I was whining to myself about losing my star. Then Tuesday I go a call to do some work at the campaign office. I'll try to work on journaling in between date entry, research and all my regular chores. My star is shining again . Thanks, liberalitch
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:36 AM
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41. FDR was only just barely before my time,
but I share your sentiments about JFK's assassination. That terrible event marked a sad and unalterable turning point for me as well.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:48 AM
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17. I wasn't there, but I'm old enough to have seen the news footage
and been saddened because I knew what it would mean for both countries.

They murder our leaders. Don't you think it's time we started to throw theirs into prison?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:50 AM
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21. doesn't something like that teach you the concept of "they" is what
the problem is? Its a lesson we all need to learn. There is no "they", only "us". The sooner we understand that, the better.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:48 AM
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18. sadly, I watched it in horror, realtime.
the most indelible image is of one of the others at the podium after the attack, feebly waving his arm, the hand had been shot off, and his arm bones jutted out of his bloody stump. I know that wasn't the "main event", he was just some poor unfortunate other official on the dais, but that image has never left me.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:14 AM
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54. I just posted the same thing. That image will haunt me forever, I fear.
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DrRang Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:48 AM
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19. Yep. The suddenness was stunning.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:49 AM
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20. me. n/t
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 08:49 AM by peekaloo
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:51 AM
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22. I remember. I think some people want violence to reign in the Mideast.
I'm not taking sides, but in every country there are those calling for violence against some other faith or religion or country. Even here on DU people are taking sides and validating the killing on one side or the other. Rarely do I see as much a call for peace and negotiation as I do a call for violence by the people of the Mideast. I think it is because so many people want a certain outcome to happen in that area. They want a Mideast without some faction or other. If all the peoples of the area would turn off the influence of outside entities and worked together on a just peace for all the countries of the area it might have a good result. I'm afraid that greed and religious racism and bigotry are too ingrained in the area and the countries and people who take a side in their conflicts. If you find a supporter of one side or the other their motive is usually greed, or religious bigotry and racism. I see no moral high ground on either side.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:52 AM
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23. Too Old Actually
I was here and probably saw it, but don't remember!
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:56 AM
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26. CRS
I'm in the same boat! lol
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:57 AM
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48. It Sucks, Doesn't It??? lol
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:52 AM
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24. I saw it on TV
There was such a hope for Peace in the Middle East, after watching the news with Carter arranging the meetings at Camp David. Begin and Sadat were able to rise above the fray and actually come up with a plan for peace.
The murder of Sadat was a chilling thing, bringing back the memories of JFK's assassination, and the great hopes dashed there.
:cry:
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LiberalPartisan Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:53 AM
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25. Me. What was remarkable about Sadat
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 08:58 AM by LiberalPartisan
was, like Menachem Begin, Sadat also was a terrorist.
Yet he and Begin, each after attaining legitimacy in politics, through President Jimmy Carter, found common ground.

Alas, thier lesson has been lost on the intervening generations and
once again Israel is compelled to take up arms in defense of her people and her right to exist.

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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:59 AM
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28. I remember it
But I didn't really understand the significance until later...
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:06 AM
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32. 1 Corinthians 13:11
"When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me."

Both men grew and changed..... too bad we all didn't.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:06 AM
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33. Very important point.
Sadat, like Begin, had indeed been a violent man. But by the time he was killed, Sadat had learned that violence cannot produce peace, and that intolerance cannot produce tolerance. We could add Nelson Mandela to that list, as well.

It will require the type of growth that these individuals displayed, on a national and indeed international level, in order for the violence to stop.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:58 AM
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27. A great loss for humanity.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:02 AM
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30. Sadat, JFK, MLK and Bobby
I saw Bobby's murder live on late-night tv. Peacemakers may be 'blessed" but in this cold world, they are usually doomed as well. RIP all heroes.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:00 AM
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50. I watched Bobby's murder too
We have seen some horrible events on TV in our lifetimes.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:18 PM
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73. During VietNam (pre 1967, I think)
is when they decided to stop showing our soldiers being MediVac-ed from the battlefield. The images of what our troops endured--the mutilations, amputations, gun shot wounds, and certainly the caskets of the ones who didn't make it home alive were shown regularly on TV. We have seen some horrible events over the years, but we saw enough to get off our asses and get out into the streets. Even with so many working night and day to stop that war, it still took years to bring it to a halt. We would have public outrage if the public could see what was really happening. There are not two sides to the truth. Stop the war. We need no more dead soldiers, no more dead women and children, no more innocent men and babies, and no more dead heroes. We need to be loving each other desperately. We need to be looking out for each other. We need to have open hearts, clear minds, and strong resolve and do the right thing RIGHT NOW. Woo. Guess I got off on a rant. Thanks, maybe that door needed to be cracked. I recall being at home having what was called a 'nervous breakdown' in those days while my (then) husband was at Ft. Lee (Infantry) waiting to get shipped off to VietNam. I was sitting on the couch watching the TV and crying when Bobby was assassinated.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:02 AM
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31. Me
My dad cried.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:06 AM
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34. In Crete
I was camping on a beach (sans tent, just sleeping out). This was pre-Walkamn, pr-iPod days, listening to the BBC on a tiny transistor radio and looking up at the stars before turning in.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:08 AM
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35. I remember seeing it on TV, but like most young
adults, I didn't pay attention to world events at that time. Now I wish I had, but when your young, there are so many other things going on your life that one figures this is for the older generation to handle.
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canichelouis Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:21 AM
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37. we are the "Adults" now!
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:11 AM
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36. I remember it being on the evening news
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:23 AM
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38. Old enough yes
and for Kennedy/Kennedy/MLK.
I could use a refresher on the year.
Carter did a great job on Israeli/Palestinian Peace.
Clinton almost did it too. It seems that our republican leaders would rather have the war on.
:dem:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:25 AM
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39. Raises hand.....
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:30 AM
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40. I remember it, as though it was yesterday. What a sad, sad day
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 09:30 AM by Joe Fields
and a terrible loss for the entire world. This was a great, honorable and courageous human being, willing to put the past behind him, in order to create peace. Very rare, in this day.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:37 AM
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42. I never "saw" it, but I remember it well
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:38 AM
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43. I remember the very obese King Farouk
living in exile in Rome! And Nasser, who ousted King Farouk. Then came Sadat. Not all of these were witnessed "live" but on the homefront: the JFK, Oswald, RFK and Martin Luther King killings.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:42 AM
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44. I am.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:43 AM
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45. Joining the ranks, raising my hand n/t
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:46 AM
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46. Me too, but didn't understand the full ramifications of the incident
at the time.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:49 AM
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47. Unfortunately, I remember....
n/t
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:58 AM
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49. Here n/t
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:02 AM
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51. A beautiful picture. A great and hopeful moment in time.
We've traveled so far backward since then. It is so very sad and discouraging. As another poster said, it seems that * (and others) foment war in the middle east fot their own interests. Karma may be delayed but it will come.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:11 AM
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52. JFK, MLK & RFK also.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:13 AM
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53. I remember. I also have etched permanently into my memory
the image of the gentleman holding what was left of his arm after the attack.
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DemsRBetterLovers Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:16 AM
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55. who's...
Anwar Sadat?
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:16 AM
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56. I was. Very tragic event. n/t
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:18 AM
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57. I saw the film and I remember it well
It made me so sad. I have problems with war and hatred. In my 70 years the only people I ever hated are the present administration. I feel bad about that.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:28 AM
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58. Lennon, Reagan, John Paul II, Sadat...
It was during that particularly gun-happy year. I turned 18 weeks before Lennon was assassinated. I didn't like being 18...
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:36 PM
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60. I don't recall seeing the footage.
I recall the story of Sadat being shot. In 1985, I was on a land excursion in Cairo as part of a cruise. We passed the platform where Sadat was shot.

I can recall what was going on when RFK was shot. It was the last day of school in my first grade year. I remember my stepmother talking about it when she picked my up from church.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:38 PM
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61. Yes, a tragedy of great proportions. n/t
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:44 PM
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62. Raising hand.
sad.

I remember Barbara Walters being very upset and she played clips of interviews that she had done with him over the years.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:44 PM
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63. I remember it
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:48 PM
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64. I don't specifically remember it (I was just 6), but I do remember
My mother crying and telling me that my world would be much different now that he had died. I asked why, and she told me he was a good man who could have made people who were fighting not fight anymore.

I also remember when John Lennon was murdered. My mom was driving me to kindergarten and it was on the radio and she pulled into a gas station and cried and cried and cried. I knew who John Lennon was because my mom had beatles posters all over her room and I listened to the beatles nearly every day of my life (I was also named after the girl, Nicola, in Magical Mystery Tour who knew that John Lennon wasn't the Walrus). At night, before bed, I'd kiss my mom & grandparents goodnight, then kiss the beatles goodnight and kiss David Bowie goodnight (She had a poster from THe Man Who Fell To Earth on her wall as well).
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:49 PM
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65. I remember where I was upon hearing the news.
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:51 PM
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67. Me.
And hi, DU!
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:53 PM
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68. I recall it clearly but don't remember what year it was.
...
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:54 PM
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69. Me. Saw it on my tee-vee.
Sad day. It scared me too.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:56 PM
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70. Video Here (BUT...)
when you go to this site, it asks to put an active-x control on the webpage. I just clicked on the 'x' in the upper right of the dialogue box and went around it (I hope). Clip is in Quicktime.

Don't know what the active-x is for, but I'm gonna run a spyware scan in any case.

Anywho... yeah I remember it, and this video brings it all back.

Peace...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 02:58 PM
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71. Saw it. Horrific.
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 02:59 PM by spanone
:nopity:

I remember the war in 67. This has been going on many lifetimes.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:18 PM
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74. I was around to see
Jack Ruby take out Lee Harvey Oswald.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:21 PM
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75. I remember
I was stunned by the barbarism and how tragic Sadat's death was.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:24 PM
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76. I remember hearing it on NPR
:-(

but I thought the news came in during the morning. Maybe I've confused it with some other event.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:25 PM
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77. All of them..
Starting with JFK, I remember losing every leader who seemed to offer hope for a truly better world.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:27 PM
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78. I remember when Sadat was killed
that was a sad day, he was a great man.
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:32 PM
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79. I remember it on the news
I was the mother of one month old son. I worried about what kind of world my son would grow up in.

I recall that summer was also the year we learned about a mysterious illness, which turned out to be AIDS.
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