Am I the only one that DOESN'T have a solution for the middle east?

[Beelzebud]

I keep reading thread after thread, and even blog after blog, and EVERYONE seems to have the answer for the middle east.

Am I the only one who views the entire situation in the middle east, as one huge clusterfuck, that has no real solution?

These extremists (Everyone now killing each other, including Israel, and Hezzbolah) have been killing each other, over who's god has the biggest dick for centuries.

The best thing for us to do, as a nation, is NOT GET INVOLVED. Too late for that though. We are the main instigators now.

So this was sort of a pointless thread. I was just curious if I was the only non-genius around that doesn't have a solution for this clusterfuck that we know as the middle east.

[Solly Mack]

1. I don't have a clue

[calico1]

20. No, you are not the only one.

I haven't posted on any of those threads because the issue is so confusing and complicated for me.:shrug:

[Little Star]

2. For now all I know for sure is

what you said THE USA SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THIS MESS unless our involvement is diplomacy. Little late for that now.

[Mythsaje]

3. Hell, I don't have any answers either.

We should NOT be involved the way we are. That's the only thing I've got to say about it. Israel isn't entitled to, nor should it receive, unquestioning support from us.

Then again, we supplied both sides of the Iran/Iraq war, so we have a history of doing questionable things with regards to conflicts in the region.

[undeterred]

4. It's in my "too hard" pile

I just don't know what the solution is. Convert everyone to being a pacifist?

[BillZBubb]

5. So you offer a non-solution solution?

"Not get involved"--but as you admit we are up to our eyeballs in it. Doesn't that mandate that we as citizens try to find something that will work? Or because it's been that way for a long time, just throw our hands up?

You may not agree with the solutions offered, but at least people are trying. I know there is a solution in principle, but it won't ever be implemented because the Israeli's won't give up the occupied land.

[Beelzebud]

9. I don't pretend to offer any solution.

You can sit around and think about it all day long, but no matter what, in the big scheme of things, your opinion is worthless.

Not you personally, just anyone. As if our government would actually listen to the opinions of its citizens...

[still_one]

6. The solution is simple, Nuke Jerusuleum

[BillZBubb]

8. Jerusalem?

Why do you hate Jerusalem?

[still_one]

13. They were asking for solutions

each side wants it, it is kindof like the King Solomon approach, cut the baby in half

[graywarrior]

7. It's unsolvable.

A massive herd of pissed off cats.

[Fleshdancer]

10. My only idea isn't a very good one

I want Super Nanny to just put everybody in the naughty chair but I admit, that would only be a short term solution. ;)

I have no solutions either. I just want the killing to stop.

[ninkasi]

11. I'm not the most intelligent person in the world

but I am intelligent enough to know that I have no solution for the Middle East. I wish I did. Even if someone could come up with a solution, there is no way to implement such a solution unless all sides were willing to do so.

[H2O Man]

12. No. Bush doesn't, either. n/t

[movonne]

14. One thing we could do is stop supplying bombs to Israel...we are

behind this whole thing..it was part of our government's plan...hope to keep the repugs in control.

[bdamomma]

28. I have no solution either

land and factions of religion have alot to do with it, it is a deep rooted problem for both sides involved. We did not follow up with some sort of peace resolution by this administration/regime, bush just lumped everyone as an "axis of evil", the US has not helped matters at all. And our policies have always favored Israel, for we thought they were more civilized, thus selling them arms.....etc.

[lonestarnot]

15. One solution starts here.

http://bradblog.com/video/flvplayer/FlvPlayer.html?file=http://www.ameratsu.com/media/2006/0607/w3/courttv_crier_rfk_friedman_vote_060720a_320x240.flv&width=320&height=240&OrigWidth=320&OrigHeight=240

[Homer Wells]

16. Convert Jerusalem into a City-State

separate from all the ties it has now. If it belongs to neither the Islamic, Jewish, or Christian people, then it can be viewed as Holy by all three different factions, sort of like a Disney world for religion.
I envision Moses Country, Jesus Land, Mohamed Ville, and so on.
:sarcasm: perhaps, but a viable solution.

[madrchsod]

17. simple-treat it like any third world civil-tribal-religious war

just ignore it it! poof! it`s magically gone! oh i forgot there`s that oil problem...

[dipsydoodle]

18. How about a duel ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY979wihOLE&search=deliverance%20dueling%20banjos

[DELUSIONAL]

19. This is a blood feud -- logic won't solve it

The best thing for us to do, as a nation, is NOT GET INVOLVED.

You have the answer -- and the response:

Too late for that though. We are the main instigators now.

If we believe the mythology of the bible -- Both sides trace their blood lines to a common ancestor -- Abraham.

So this is also a religious war . . .

I don't think there is a solution. It was going on long before any of us were born -- and some version of this war will be raging long after we have died.

The stupidest thing to do is to take sides -- do feel empathy for all the victims of the feud -- but as you said: NOT GET INVOLVED.

Friends of mine who have sons say that the most vicious, violent battles they have ever witnessed was between the two brothers. That was when they were CHILDREN.

[cigsandcoffee]

21. I suggested letting them fight it out until a clear winner is established.

Fortunately, I was wearing my asbestos suit.

People seem intent on offering simplistic and wishful platitudes like "just stop fighting!" and "we must convince the two sides to work together!"

Bah. Good fucking luck to them.

[DELUSIONAL]

22. They will keep fighting -- no matter what we do

UN resolutions are meaningless -- Israel dropped bomb on Lebanon -- timed to correspond to the numbering of the UN resolutions about dropping bombs on Lebanon.

If the shoe was on the other foot -- Lebanon would be bombing Israel. The balance of power will probably shift someday in the future -- and the fighting will go on and on and on and on and on and on.

The only winners -- the arms merchants.

[tsuki]

23. No, you're not the only one. The pResident is clueless also. nt

[Crunchy Frog]

24. I'm pretty much with you on this.

I also wish that this country would significantly disengage from this conflict. I think at this point we're mostly in the role of enablers.

[bdamomma]

32. and instigators

but we have always been involved in the Middle East and we all know why OIL, and with this regime we have now, we all know that the bush co. is totally deranged and totally hell bent to expand this conflict, and so where's that leave us, we remain silent............very bad situation.

[ourbluenation]

25. The only way for peace to come to the region is from the people

It's not that I'm an anti war advocate because it's warm and funny. It just doesn't work very well. Especially against terrorists groups and in guerilla type warfare.

[Nikki Stone 1]

26. Count another one with no solution

Not a clue

[pitohui]

27. i don't know either

i just wish we did have some fine minds on the project like clinton and wes clark instead of the hopeless ship of fools we have running things now

but i myself do not have sufficient knowledge of military strategy to offer anything useful, i struggle enough just with developing a winning poker strategy

i can sometimes see some of the reasons for an action if there is logic behind it == much of israel's strategy is based not just on staunching leaks but on displaying enough aggression to try to discourage future attacks == but some actions (like war in iraq) appear to have no sane purpose other than to pump up halliburton stock (prior to the war halliburton was on the brink of bankruptcy because of the asbestos claims against them) -- in that case, when you have an actor on the scene who is completely idiotic and nonlogical it is hard to know where to begin to understand his thinking

developing an original and effective middle east strategy is just something i am not going to be able to do

[hopeisaplace]

29. Everyone needs to ask: If it were my child that lay dead in a street?

To find the answer.

I can't even imagine this kind of hell. The hell of war. The hell of violence.
Continued violence will only HARDEN positions on both sides, as more people lose
their loved ones. I had seen a post somewhere here earlier, saying
that Israel should have/could have/why don't they..work with the Lebanese Government
to aid them in helping to disarm Hezbollah..sort of work together if you will. Probably
not that simple, I'm sure, (I don't know very much about ME politics).

I can safely say, dead children doesn't help any side achieve their objectives. JMO.



edit: typo

[edhopper]

30. It simple

What we gotta do see, is get Kofi to call Syria and have them tell Hezballa to stop this shit.

What's so hard?

[laylah]

31. Not at all....

My ex is Jewish, our chilren are also (he is a Chosen, my kids are half-Chosen, and I have never been Chosen for anything). I am SOOOOOOOOOO torn about all of this! Israel STARTED this with the kidnapping of the man and his son from the beach somewhere in Gaza. In retaliation, Hezbollah takes the 2 soldiers...WTF. It is all crazy. My ex and I agree (for once in 28 years) those folks either need to kill each other off or settle it! :cry: My heart breaks for the innocent!

Jenn

[bdamomma]

34. those children who have all perished in this conflict, and the

war in Iraq, I can't stand it. This is all being done in our name.

[Dulcinea]

33. No.

But I do think that the Israelis, the Palestinians, & the rest of the region has to decide for themselves that they not only want a lasting peace, but are willing to work for it.

No one in this hemisphere can do anything about this situation. Many good people have tried & failed because the solution must come from the parties directly involved.