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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:00 PM
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Do you know what kind of weapon causes this damage
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m24885&hd=0&size=1&l=e

I left the office early last night ; at midnight.

There was only one devastating picture yesterday : that of two people who were killed in air strikes on Akkar,(the poorer area) in the north, late Wednesday night.

Both corps were black, both were dismembered , both were "weird". I don't think it matters anymore to try to prove that Israel is using unconventional , forbidden weapons .. that would only prove that it should have used "allowed" weapons. Who cares, people are dying anyway. And whatever weapons are being used , the pollution they're creating will kill the survivors from cancer later.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:02 PM
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1. You should add a "Graphic" warning nt
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 12:02 PM by TomInTib
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:05 PM
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2. There are now multiple reports of 'odd corpses'.
The unreliable Wayne Madsen had something yesterday and I have seen two apparantly different reports from Lebanese sources today. Quite frankly I don't know what to make of it. The pictures in that link a hugely disturbing.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:05 PM
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3. White Phosphorous?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:12 PM
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17. Yes, and they burned alive because of it, even inside so long as it has O2
So fucked up. That is the reason those weapons are not supposed to be used. They were US personnel in the Korean War. Sad how people forget so much in only fifty years.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:06 PM
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Wow,
Possibly a thermobaric or phosphorus weapon.

I pick #1 only because I've seen pics of victims of phosphorus weapons and they didn't look like this.

I've never seen something that looks like this and I look at lots of pictures.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:08 PM
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14. Different angle
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:22 PM
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18. The US makes WP shells, they were used in Fallujah (graphic image)
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 10:24 PM by originalpckelly


You'll note it looks the same. It is my understanding that you are probably familiar with deep point like wounds from the shrapnel of the WP metal. It doesn't have to be the case. In fact it can be blown up in such a way to form a metallic "mist" that will incinerate human flesh in broad areas on contact. (As you will note in the picture above, this is a death that is confirmed to be from WP.)

They also make rockets and mortars. It should be noted the Israelis are using the same type of weapons that can use WP shells.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:06 PM
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4. Are they using depleted uranium (DU)??
n/t
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:11 PM
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5. It is too bad that they do not have the protection that the unborn has.
The pictures of the children should be on the front pages of all caring web sites. Just like the anti-abortion people used to do with the fetus's
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:13 PM
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6. it is the same that was used in the Gulf War
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 12:16 PM by MissWaverly
see photographs of corpses from Highway of Death photos, they have the same carbonized look
those people were killed from aerial bombardment as well, should add these pictures are
very graphic


http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0212/pt04.html
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:16 PM
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7. kicking for truth and justice
nt
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:20 PM
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8. One of the reasons I think people don't care
is because they don't see the horrible images. I think everyone should have to look at these pictures and decide for themselves if these people are terrorists.

Look at the pictures and imagine this happening to the people you love, because if there's anything I believe is that.... what goes around... comes around. They don't hate us for our freedoms... they hate us for this.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:21 PM
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9. I just cannot
believe this is the world we live in. I see these pictures and my whole existence and being screams for the quick death of all the war pig leaders. if ever i would pray it would be for god to strike down these inhuman bastards that start wars. ALL OF THEM! Just kill all the war pigs please. stupid ignorant inbred bastards living safe in their hideouts while others pay for their arrogance. GOD JUST KILL ALL THE WAR PIGS PLEASE AND STOP THE WORLDS SUFFERING!
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:33 PM
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10. As long as their deaths weren't intentional...
...they are okay. Intentional deaths are okay as well if they are evil enemy "terrorists." (See Tony Snow for latest BushCorp approved definition...)

Capital punishment is okay because they are subhuman murderers who need to be taught a lesson...We will punish them for murdering by murdering them.

But sweet Jesus let us protect embryonic stem cells...because they might grow up to be white Faux Christian presidents.

:crazy:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:02 PM
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11. More evidence? (Wayne Madsen Report)
I don't know anything about the Wayne Madsen Report, but BartCop linked to this yesterday.

U.S. military intelligence sources have told WMR that the artillery shell shown below being used by an Israel Defense Force member in Lebanon, is a type of dual and multi-use weapon the neocons falsely accused Saddam Hussein of possessing. Although the canister artillery shell is marketed as an anti-land mine fuel-air bomb, its payload can also include the chemicals used in thermobaric bombs, white phosphorous weapons, and chemical weapons.



http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/



(Warning: Graphic photo at above link.)
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 05:43 PM
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12. Well, it'd have to be something burning pretty hot. Phosphorus, most likey
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 05:43 PM by dave123williams

Though, now that I think about it, probably not:

Nobody really uses 'napalm' anymore; they call it something else now, NapalmB or superNapalm, I think. You can put in fun additives, too, like aluminum, phosphorus or magnesium, all of which burn really hot at like 1300+ degrees centigrade. There's also the unadulterated fun of dropping a 'Mark77':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_77_bomb

That has an oxidizing agent so it'll burn hotter, and no benzine, so it's environmentally friendly.

This makes me think that it's not MK77 victims you're seeing there; 1300 degress C is quite enough to turn people in to a fine ash with anything approaching a sustained burn. Probably not a thermite bomb either; those burn hot enough to melt solid steel. More likely, they're the victims of a house/building fire started by whatever hit near them. I only posit this because there's still bodies left to see.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:59 PM
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13. To put it bluntly....

Meat goes bad fast when left out in a warm climate.

Corpses aren't any shade of pink or normal flesh tone after a pretty short period.

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:05 PM
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16. That wasn't decomp.
That was the new napalm mix or WP.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:46 PM
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19. You mean that variety...

...of incendiary that doesn't burn clothing?

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:45 PM
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15. Isreal is guilty of crimes against humanity
and so is the US.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:48 PM
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20. IE devices will do that to a body.
Not a new or weird weapon at all, think napalm.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 07:57 PM
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21. It's not white phosphorus
According to the original article, the bodies still have hair and don't appear burned--the photos of the bodies are fairly distant from the camera.

I'm going with the thermobaric bomb--the shock wave from one of those will liquify your innards, and a few hours in the heat will turn you black and swollen.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 04:05 PM
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22. "Lebanon president says Israel uses phosphorous arms"
From sabra's LBN thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2409798

Lebanon president says Israel uses phosphorous arms

PARIS, July 24 (Reuters) - Lebanon's president accused Israel on Monday of using phosphorous bombs in its 13-day offensive and urged the United Nations to demand an immediate ceasefire.

"According to the Geneva Convention, when they use phosphorous bombs and laser bombs, is that allowed against civilians and children?" President Emile Lahoud asked on France's RFI radio.

An Israeli military spokeswoman said arms used in Lebanon did not contravene international norms.

"Everything the Israeli Defence Forces are using is legitimate," the spokeswoman said.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L24911888.htm



I also saw a Lebanese physician on cnn this morning stating that Israel is using WP. Israel doesn't deny it, they just say that all of their weapons are within international law.
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