Lt Col: The Tillmans' are only upset because they aren't Christians

[Rose Siding]

This stinks. It's hateful and insulting and cruel and un-american and this guy is a COMMANDER.-

Shorter United States Army LTC Ralph Kauzlarich: Pat Tillman's parents are only unhappy about the death of their son and the subsequent Army coverup of that event because they aren't Christian.

In an interview with ESPN.com, Kauzlarich said: "When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right? Well, if you are an atheist and you don't believe in anything, if you die, what is there to go to? Nothing. You are worm dirt. So for their son to die for nothing, and now he is no more- that is pretty hard to get your head around that. So I don't know how an atheist thinks. I can only imagine that that would be pretty tough."

Asked by ESPN.com whether the Tillmans' religious beliefs are a factor in the ongoing investigation, Kauzlarich said, "I think so. There is not a whole lot of trust in the system or faith in the system . So that is my personal opinion, knowing what I know."

Yeah. Because of their lack of religious faith, the Tillman's don't trust the system. Pat, who was also an atheist, clearly didn't believe in anything. He gave up a lucrative NFL career to go fight in Afghanistan for... some reason.

Read the rest. Mike Fish and ESPN have done a good job; Fish conveys very well the life of a Ranger platoon in Afghanistan. The Army is clearly at fault here, not because Tillman died (these things, sadly, happen) but because of the subsequent efforts at covering its own ass.

http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2006/07/gaping-in-dumbfounded-awe-at-audacity.html

More from the ESPN piece-

In his interview with ESPN.com, Kauzlarich also said he was not driven to identify Tillman's killer.
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"His parents continue to ask for it to be looked at," Kauzlarich said. "And that is really their prerogative. And if they have the right backing, the right powerful people in our government to continue to let it happen, then that is the case.

"But there been numerous unfortunate cases of fratricide, and the parents have basically said, 'OK, it was an unfortunate accident.' And they let it go. So this is — I don't know, these people have a hard time letting it go. It may be because of their religious beliefs."

[Solly Mack]

1. Wow. Such ignorance..

It is an insulting, cruel and very hate filled comment. I agree

[jonnyblitz]

2. I am sick of religion. period. nt

[CrispyQ]

4. I second that!! -nt

[Rose Siding]

5. That's not religion!

That's a sanctimonious, ass-covering war maker.

In fact, one of the reasons he's so despicable -one of the reasons I find his remarks so personally infuriating- is because of the pall it casts over religion.

[msongs]

16. he is espousing his religious beliefs - non believer deserve what they get

it IS religion talking. this view is held by hundreds of millions of people because that is what their religions teach them:
non-believers deserve what they get and therefore it is OK to do anything to them.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[demosincebirth]

18. Thats right. Don't blame religion.

[Solly Mack]

7. Me too to be honest

[flamingyouth]

3. Wow. Just wow.

How charitable and kind of him to cast judgment on this grieving family. :eyes:

[mzteris]

6. pardon me while I

:puke:

[me b zola]

8. There aren't enough adjectives to describe...

...the ugliness that eminates from bush*bots.




I wish peace & comfort to the family of Pat Tillman.:grouphug:

[Minnesota_Lib]

9. "When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right?"....

Wow, isn't that kind of the same selling point the "terrorists" use to recruit suicide bombers and such. So now we are using it as well. Die for the grand neo-con geopolitical plan and go to a better life.

Sick and hypocritical.

[Rose Siding]

12. Yep -72 virgins

Yay, death.

[fasttense]

10. So if the Tillman's parents were Christian they would be glad

their son was dead? Christian parents don't care if their children live or die? This light colonel is a freaking wacko.

[rfranklin]

11. The Kauzlarich family would dance a jig if he got killed by his troops..,

because he would be in heaven wearing white robes and angel wings maybe playing a harp.:sarcasm:

[genie_weenie]

13. Hey, why do you think Preachers rode along on

the Battleships during WWII? To convince the young men about to charge across 1000 yards of open surf into Japanese Machine Guns and mortar fire that hey if you die you go to a better place...

[TomClash]

14. No one in the military is a Christian

Anyone who picks up a gun to kill another is not a Christian.

[Mandate My Ass]

15. they turned his funeral into a rah-rah rally for war, knowing how Pat died

the family is upset because they were used.

Pat got a personal letter from Rumsferatu when he enlisted. When he turned against the war in Iraq, and was planning on meeting Noam Chomsky after his tour in Afghanistan, suddenly he was a liability.

[Cha]

17. What a Fucking UN-Christian

thing to say!! Sounds like something an asshole would say that had "COVERUP" on his small mind.

[AlCzervik]

19. i really woudn't want to be in a foxhole with guy, you know he doesn't hav

your back.

[ContraBass Black]

20. I guess that whole dead son and lies from the government thing

Is just minor.

[cynatnite]

21. If the Tillman family were bush supporters...

there would be none of this crap.

The right wing's MO is to trash the military service of those who serve and those who died while serving. They will attack the family who loses a loved one.

They have no decency and this kind of behavior is completely unamerican. :grr:

[ebdarcy]

22. What do you want to bet this guy is a fundie?

He's definitely a proud member of the sheeple. The Tillman family can't possibly be upset by the fact that their son was killed, it was covered up, and then his death was used as a rallying cry by the bastards in power. No, the reason they're upset is because they haven't welcomed Jesus into their hearts.

And of course he's upset that anyone is still looking into this. I mean, the Tillman's can't really be considered Americans. Athiests aren't citizens. Isn't that poppy's stance?

I am an atheist, but everyone else in my family is Christian. Whenever there's a death in the family, I notice that pretty much everyone is upset. Does this mean my family members are closet atheists? Or has my family's association with me somehow tainted their belief system? Is my atheism contagious?

This guy is an asshole.

[lolly]

24. Follow his logic here

If you follow through his logic, then it's OK to kill Christians.

Now, don't jump on me for saying this. I'm certainly not saying it's ok to kill Christians--but he is.

You're just doing them a favor, getting them to heaven sooner.

Any doubt about this? Look at his belief that it's unChristian for the Tillmans to try to find out how their son was killed. Follow through here. People who kill Christians don't need to be caught and punished. If their families are "good Christians," they won't care who killed their child or why; they'll just be happy he's in heaven.

Sick, sick, sick.

[Initech]

23. Unbelievable. Just another insane fundamentalist.

[The Count]

25. Uh, so Christians are OK with their kids being shot in the back?

Does the bible endorse that? I learn something new every day!

[glitch]

26. Boy is this guy going to have fun getting through the eye of the needle.

Poor mad fool.

[The Backlash Cometh]

27. Okay, here is indeed evidence why we need the separation of

church and state. A couple loses their son, and the man who may have been responsible for the safety of their son, dismisses their grief because they lack faith? WTF?

[phildo]

28. Looks like a defense in the frame of being offensive.

And it is working. Everyone gets poed over the silly religion distraction.

Real deal is some Senior Officers are in hitting range for having lied, covered up, and creating false statements related to Tillman's death. Those actions are enough to get the paperweights (rank) pulled off their collars, and with the mood the country is headed, some actual punishment. (very rare for Senior Officers -- notice NONE went to jail over the prison scandels). The common phrase for the condition is "different spanks for different ranks."

Clearly some Senior Officers deserve some spanking over all this -- the up front fraud regarding Tillman. If they create a circus regarding the family it may provide cover for the serious offenses.

[newyawker99]

31. Hi phildo!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Bluebear]

29. They are NOT CHRISTIANNNNNNNNNNah! Psychics! Gargoyles!

[ms liberty]

30. You need to email this to Keith...

He could make that asswipe the Worst Person In The World on Monday; that comment just about equals anything stupid the big giant head has said IMO.

[rman]

32. If they'd be christians they'd be happy about their son's death,

and they wouldn't mind the coverup.
So there.

[misternormal]

33. What a Pompous ass...

... I find it sickening how anyone can tell another how they should feel about anything at all.

This "Commander" has found his place in my "stuff it up your ass" file... For whatever that's worth.

[NNN0LHI]

34. No true Christian would question Der Fuhrers minions

That is what this scum is saying.

Don