k_jerome
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:30 PM
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Is Russ Feingold a Zionist or just a plain Jew? |
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I see the term Zionist tossed around to describe some faceless menacing threat to peace in the middle east. Russ Feingold is an ardent supporter of Israel. Would this make him a Zionist? I read what many Jewish leaders and scholars say regarding the use of the term Zionist as a codeword in the new anti-semitism. I also read the comments of non-Jews defending the use of the descriptor. Which do I listen to, the offended or the offenders?
“I stand firmly with the people of Israel and their government as they defend themselves against these outrageous attacks. The kidnapping of Israeli soldiers and missile attacks against Israeli citizens are unacceptable and cannot be tolerated. The first steps toward establishing peace must begin with the unconditional and immediate return of the kidnapped Israeli soldiers. Lebanon, Syria, Iran and countries throughout the region must also condemn the actions of Hezbollah, Hamas, and other groups committed to blocking the peace process and must take strong actions to return stability to the region immediately.”
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:32 PM
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This board has officially flipped.
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:40 PM
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:33 PM
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2. He's a US Senator from the State of Wisconsin. |
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Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 03:34 PM by Scurrilous
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:33 PM
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3. He's a United States Senator |
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Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 03:34 PM by Crunchy Frog
whom I have alot of admiration for, though don't agree with him on absolutely everything.
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:38 PM
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6. yep that is who and what he is |
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:39 PM
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:37 PM
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4. He's a US senator that is in grave error on this one issue. |
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Does he support Israel holding onto lands grabbed in 1967? If so, he may be a Zionist. I would need more information on that.
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:39 PM
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7. I Thought A Zionist Was Someone Who Believes In A Jewish National Homeland |
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The person who would espouse the views you suggest would be an expansionist.
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:44 PM
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17. Thanks for the correction! |
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I am a Zionist because I believes in a Jewish national homeland and her right to exist. Not the right to expand. I'm sure Russ Feingold (a Zionist himself) does not believe in the expansion of Israel and believes in the creation of a Palestinian/Arab state.
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:38 PM
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:39 PM
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8. Russ Feingold is a Zionist |
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Yes he is, and like him I'm a Jew and a Zionist. Like me, most Jews are Zionists. Not all Zionists agree with the Israeli government's actions or methods but we all support Israel's right to exist and her right to defend herself and her citizens.
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:43 PM
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14. but posts I have seen are sure... |
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to separate the two in order to characterize one as evil.
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:44 PM
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19. Zionism means different things to different people. Can't wait for that |
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:39 PM
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He is a 'pro-Israeli blanket apologist' who supports the 'wanton killing of innocent civilians' and 'supports the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Lebanese people,' without 'regard to the lives of Americans' he places in jeopardy because of his 'blind support' for Israel and is a 'puppet for AIPAC and the Jewish Lobby, like the rest of Congress.' :sarcasm: But, I think I hit most of major 'talking points.'
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:39 PM
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10. i dont know if im offended by your question or not. |
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he is jewish. yes.
plain jew as opposed to zionist? that doesnt make any sense to me. zionists are not all jews. they also come in an entire range of political leanings.
i see in this statement that he fails my test of balance and equality though. he fails to call israel to task for their actions, instead he accepts them totally , while condemning the others unconditionally.
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:43 PM
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13. And Issue I will stay out of |
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Part of my family was killed -He was a Marine we all most went to war over that one
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:43 PM
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15. What is the point of this post? nt |
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:44 PM
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18. I am trying to decide if I agree... |
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with many here that say that zionists are evil.
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:44 PM
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16. Two Things Are Upsetting Me About These Threads |
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1) The bastardization of the word Zionist
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2) The dualism by people on both sides of this debates.
IMHO anybody that thinks this is some manichean struggle or cowboy movie with black hats and white hats has no understanding of international politics and the jockeying for power that is going on. The sad thing is this isn't a chess board and innocent people are being killed.
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Sat Jul-22-06 03:45 PM
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I think he's rather handsome.
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