Who here supports Hezbollah?

[Rex]

I'm tired of seeing this tit-for-tat shit. A lot of people here seem to think that if you don't support Israel, then you MUST support Hezbollah.

So, let us find out then who here really does support Hezbollah.

I sure as hell don't. I also don't support Israel shelling/bombing the crap out of people.

Oh and for those people who are screaming, 'easy to say, what would you do about the situation.'

Third party arbitration.

[blonndee]

1. Not I. nt

[NJ Democrats]

2. I DO NOT

[benburch]

3. Nope!

A pox on both their houses.

[LA lady]

4. Of course not.

Hell, no

This is the typical argument that if you don't support Israel you are anti-Semitic. Well I am a Semite and I don't support Israel. Figure that one out.

[Spazito]

5. Not I! n/t

[wtmusic]

6. Saying you "support" any group is meaningless

unless you actually donate to them, work for them, etc.

[Rex]

9. Not according to our Fearless Leader.

Merely speaking bad about our 'War on Terror' helps the terrorists. Honest, that's what they say.

[wtmusic]

21. As in "emotional support"?

I suppose there is an element of that. FWIW.

Best to just tell the truth and let them worry about how it's taken.

[Rex]

23. Evidently people would rather die and have the rest of us die

anything to keep from telling the truth. We need a 'tell it like it is' POTUS, IMO.

[wtmusic]

27. Amen nt

[babylonsister]

7. Nope. I think most of us feel like you, Rex. nt

[Rex]

13. I hope so babylonsister.

I'm getting tired of seeing this 'you're either with us, or against us' crap. I expect that out of the RWingers, but not progressives.

[H2O Man]

91. Yep.

I agree.

[wakeme2008]

8. IMHO this is NOT about Hezbollah but the Nov elections and bush/israel

wanting to attack Syria/Iran.....

Read the below thread and understand Rummy and Cheney both meet with the Israel PM and one other high Israel offical ONE MONTH AGO

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2735918&mesg_id=2735918

[Skip Intro]

10. Hello! n/t

[wakeme2008]

16. Hello what... nt

[Skip Intro]

28. sorry - "hello!" as in "ding, ding, ding." or "yup" or "I agree"

it wasn't clear, sorry wakeme2008

[adriennui]

15. i'm falling down that rabbit hole again.....

BTW, i do not support the party of the shia god.

[Rex]

That's what really scares me.

I didn't think this was the start of WWIII, but the M$M keeps saying it is and ya gotta wonder if the M$M works for Bush/Cheney then maybe we should sit up and pay attention.

Unlike WWI or WWII, WWIII will be a no win situation for all sides. :(

[Rex]

22. dupe

Dam finger!

[pizzed]

72. It's a set-up, and American citizens are being made the FOOLS

Right on! I believe most of the DUers are too young to have any memory of how "israel" got to be in Palestine in the first place. They actually got "a place of their own" because the rest of the world was sick of them assassinating and terrorizing everyone, and mistakenly believed the jews would finally settle down and stop terrorizing, also there was a lot of 'guilt' over the holocaust, so sympathy helped them prevail. However, that old 'give 'em an inch, they'll take a mile' resulted. It was the Zionists who were the TERRORISTS... and still ARE. Original web page: http://www.doublestandards.org/unbunche.html

Timeline of Zionist Terror
from a UN committee
01 October 1948

The UN Report Prepared in 1948 for Ralphe Bunche, New UN Commissioner to Palestine
Foreword: In view of the tragic assassination of Count Folke Bernadotte by identified Jewish terrorists on September 17 of this year, the following report has been prepared for the use of Dr. Bunche, Count Bernadotte's immediate replacement.
This report is a compilation of all identified terrorist attacks on British, American and Arab individuals and entities in the assassination of the British Resident Minister in the Middle East on November 6, 1944 by members of the terrorist Jewish Stern gang to the assassination of Count Bernadotte on September 17, 1948 by members of this same gang of fanatics.
This information is compiled from reports of the US Department of State, the British Foreign Office and various American and British press services.
New York, October 1, 1948
Chronology


However, now we have the PNAC's. Google the names of the men who founded PANC and you will discover THEY HAVE connections to Israel, one way or another. "OUR" government has become more loyal to Israel than they are to American Citizens. Remember, now how Colin Powell was supposedly 'negotiating' AS BUSH/PNAC's were loading the bombs and landing troops for their "shock and awe" INVASION of a Sovereign Country: Iraq. They are now doing a repeat with Rice supposedly going to go "negotiate" AS BUSH/PNAC's are aiding and abetting Israel's invasion of Lebanan:

Quote:
New York Times

July 22, 2006
Weapons
U.S. Speeds Up Bomb Delivery for the Israelis
By DAVID S. CLOUD and HELENE COOPER
WASHINGTON, July 21 — The Bush administration is rushing a delivery of precision-guided bombs to Israel, which requested the expedited shipment last week after beginning its air campaign against Hezbollah targets in Lebanon, American officials said Friday.

The decision to quickly ship the weapons to Israel was made with relatively little debate within the Bush administration, the officials said. Its disclosure threatens to anger Arab governments and others because of the appearance that the United States is actively aiding the Israeli bombing campaign in a way that could be compared to Iran’s efforts to arm and resupply Hezbollah.

The munitions that the United States is sending to Israel are part of a multimillion-dollar arms sale package approved last year that Israel is able to draw on as needed, the officials said. But Israel’s request for expedited delivery of the satellite and laser-guided bombs was described as unusual by some military officers, and as an indication that Israel still had a long list of targets in Lebanon to strike.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Friday that she would head to Israel on Sunday at the beginning of a round of Middle Eastern diplomacy. (READ IT ALL!)
http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/sf/nyt7_22_06_8.htm
I believe this was decided at the meeting they had with Olmert about a month ago... I believe that the PNAC's and Israel have formed an alliance of jackals. The PNAC's intend to reign Supreme as the World's Only Super Power, and Israel expects to "expand" into the mid east, asap. BOTH want the genocide of ALL Arabs. As WAKEME2008 posted: "wanting to attack Syria/Iran"..... YES! It's a set-up. Bush/Cheney/Rove can't take a chance of attacking Syria and Iran, right now, they're getting too much heat from Congress, BUT they can have Israel do it, by attacking Lebanan and supposedly "involving" Syria and Iran ~ THEN BUSH WILL "RESCUE OUR GOOD FRIEND, ISRAEL" and look like a "hero", as he wipes out Syria & Iran while Israel wipes out Lebanan & Palestine. BOTH BUSHCO AND ISRAEL HATE MUSLIMS... although they keep claiming it's the Muslims who are "guilty of wanting to kill christians & jews"....

Read the below thread and understand Rummy and Cheney both meet with the Israel PM and one other high Israel offical ONE MONTH AGO

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
sorry this is so long...
PS ---
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0%2C%2C173-2277717_1%2C00.html
British Anger at Terror Celebration
By Ned Parker and Stephen Farrell

The commemoration of Israeli bombings that killing 92 people has caused offence

AS ISRAEL wages war against Hezbollah “terrorists” in Lebanon, Britain has protested about the celebration by right-wing Israelis of a Jewish “act of terrorism” against British rule 60 years ago this week.

[SammyWinstonJack]

11. I support peace. nt

[Bruce McAuley]

73. Me too!

If the choices are
A. Hezbollah
B. Israel
C. Neither of the warmongers above
My choice would be C.

Bruce

[BillZBubb]

12. It's the old "for us or against us" mentality. It's pathetic.

What Israel is doing is morally reprehensible. What Hezbollah is doing is morally reprehensible. But, Israel is the stronger party and is doing it orders of magnitude greater. They need to stop and reconsider.

Israel is purposefully gutting a defenseless country. Hezbollah is murdering a few Israelis and damaging a few buildings. The Israeli response is so out of proportion that all decent people are offended.

[adriennui]

19. where are lebanon's mid-east friends?

all they have defending them are some hapless UN personnel and a fanatical group of theocratic murderers.

[pizzed]

77. where are Lebanan's friends???

well, all the surrounding countries are attempting to help the refugees, and they are ALL SCARED OF ISRAEL AND BUSH/CHENEY... surely you can understand 'why'... look what's ahppened to Iraq and what has becaome of BEAUTIFUL and PEACEFUL Lebanan... Lebanan still had some recovering and rebuilding to do after their 2000 victory when they pushed Israel OUT of THEIR COUNTRY, now they're destroyed and decimated.

Israel, Bush/Cheney should ALL BE TRIED FOR WAR CRIMES - and hung.

[adriennui]

92. L_E_B_A_N_O_N

is the correct spelling. israel left because the new lebanese gov't was going to control the outlaw elements. it failed.

it's kind of like letting MS-13 run wild in the US while law enforcement does nothing.

[Violet_Crumble]

14. The only group I support...

..is the innocent civilians, no matter what their nationality....

[magellan]

17. HELL NO.

And it's a bleeding shame this question even needs to be asked here.

[Rex]

24. I agree.

nt

[tnlefty]

18. Nope. And further if I question the actions of my own government and

don't support what it does when I think that it is wrong I sure as hell won't blindly support another government when I think that it is wrong.

[beam me up scottie]

20. I support meaningless, jingoistic cliches.

It's American.

[Solly Mack]

53. LMAO

I'm dying...lololol

[joemurphy]

25. They both suck.

Hezbollah targets innocent civilians. Israel does the same. I see no particularly moral difference between the two.

Neither are responsive to the wishes and aims of most of the ordinary people -- to just survive, live peaceful lives, watch their children grow up, and generally be happy.

You know, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

And we don't help matters by fomenting stupid proxy wars in the name of "Middle Eastern democracy" and "Israeli survival". Its all crap. A pox on all of the people that cause these incessant problems in the Mideast.

[DELUSIONAL]

29. You said it well -- I agree with everything you say

(in this post) <grin>

[joemurphy]

48. We'll agree to disagree in future posts. :-)

[Porcupine]

51. Dead is dead, I support nobody that kills civilians.......but

Given that I then allocate blame on the number of civilians killed. So far the Israelis have racked up a huge number of evil points over the Hezbollah or all non-zionist caused Israeli deaths put together.

My next criteria for judgement is "how far away from home are you?" Killing civilians 8,000 miles away from home is far more evil than killing them where they can smack you back. That goes for the supporters and manufacturers of weapons also.

Finally. Where where you born? Where were your parents born? Your grandparents? If your family came to a place from 1500 miles away so that you could kill other peoples families that where born there for seven generations back you have an ethical problem.

Each criteria racks up points of judgement and resentment; call it Karma. At this point I believe that Israel has accumulated a karmic debt that may only be relieved by a second diaspora. This would be a worldwide disaster. It is also increasingly likely with every day that the U.S. is stalled in Iraq.

In Iraq the U.S. has opened a free college for killing and defeating US/Israeli technological superiority. So far the college has been very heavily subscribed and very succesfull. Remember that all they have to do is make it more expensive for us to stay than to leave. They only have to live there and act against us occasionally. When we go home Israel becomes the next target.

[alvarezadams]

26. Hell no!

And I've been accused of being pro-terrorist and an idiot on this board because I don't go gung-ho for Israel.

[Jeanette in FL]

30. I don't know for sure.

Hezbollah, was born out of the Israeli occupation of Lebanon. They were able to eject Syria out of Lebanon as well as the Israeli's. In the meanwhile, they were able to set up a social structure within Lebanon for the poor, hospitals, schools, protection of women.

It seems to me that we able to attach labels to a group of people, "terrorist" very easily.

Wouldn't our "minute men" be classified as a terrorist group in these days.

So one thing I do know for sure, I don't know the truth.

[timtom]

34. I was wondering if

anyone was going to mention the original purpose of Hezbollah.

And it is quite right to mention our founding fathers' handling of breaking ties with the British Empire.

What also should be brought out (in the spirit of balance) is the wholesale trashing of Palestinians' homes and olive trees over the past several years. Rachel Corrie comes to mind, as well.

Do I support the IRA? No. Do I believe they have a good reason to be angry? Yes.

[Rex]

36. Do you think Hezbollah has a good reason to be angry?

nt

[Kire]

58. that's what he said

nt

[Chulanowa]

59. Exactly my thoughts.

I can never support the actions... But I can sure as hell understand and, in some part sympathize with why they take those actions.

When bombs fall from the sky and you're all that's left of your family, and the world tells you you don't matter because God's name is spoken differently in your language...

Violence is never the answer to the shit life throws at you. It's always unacceptable. But it is often understandable.

[Just Me]

31. I'll throw a wrench into the wheels. They did drive a foreign occupier,.

,...from a country. They have invested in humanitarian interests: feeding the impoverished, schooling the ignorant, housing the homeless.

They are "labelled" terrorists because they have a history of resisting occupation.

Why don't we have a serious conversation about "terrorism"? Per the U.S. terrorism is targeting innocent citizens in order to impose a political ideology.

Think about that.

Also, consider another form of "terrorism": BUYING dictators to advance U.S. corporacrats while simultaneously destroying democracy and the oppressed.

I do not support economic or death-delivering forms of violence. However, I have a pretty strong grasp on who is MOST guilty of delivering terrorism. Do you?

[Rex]

35. I consider America, my country, to be the biggest terrorist state on the

planet, at the moment. Yet America does house and feed many who are destitute. Maybe we should just label all war as terrorism. I wish we could.

[DYouth]

32. I support them defending Lebanon and some of their social work

Their greater political agenda may be dangerous.

After all, the US and Israel are alone in the world in referring to them as terrorists -- a simplistic claim.

[SPKrazy]

39. Kind Of Like The Mafia

gaining support of the neighborhood so that they can operate out of it without recourse

that's Hezbollah

[DYouth]

45. Well, I don't just demonize them

Like anyone else I have to assess I try to be fair.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

33. I don't support anyone or group who thinks the way of dealing

with their problems is by killing everyone who disagrees with them. Unfortunately, these days that would mean I don't support much of anyone.

[magellan]

40. Amen to that, brother. (nt)

[madeline_con]

37. I support their social programs...

but only in spirit. I can't send money for two reasons:

1) There is no guarantee for what specific purpose my donation would be used.

2) I'd be arrested for "providing material support to a terrorist organization". Allegedly.

[SPKrazy]

38. Third Party Arbitration Hasn't Worked Over The Six Years

that Israel has been out of Lebanon with the agreement that the Lebanese and the UN would eradicate Hezbollah from its country

meanwhile Syria and Iran use Hezbollah to attack Israel in small ways (terrorism) because they can claim plausible denial, etc.

I support Israel in this.

I do not support Hezbollah.

I think there are people who's wishful thinking ends up being nothing but support for Hezbollah.

[Rex]

44. Yeah I was wondering just WHO has the mutal respect of both

Israel and Lebanon and could broker a cease-fire. So far I'm coing up with no one. So war is the only answer?

[The Magistrate]

60. You Have Put Your Finger On The Problem, Sir

Where both sides refuse to agree, and there is no one both will consent to as referee, war on some scale is inevitable, and will continue till one or the other is helpless, or until they decide after all they can agree, on a referee or with each other. However we might prefer things to be, that is how they are, and seem likely to remain.

[Rex]

85. The problem is, I don't see either side ever feeling helpless.

Hezbollah has Iran and Syria, while Israel has America. I'm not comparing Israel and Hezbollah; just pointing out how both have a big ally backing them. Not good.

[SPKrazy]

64. It Isn't Even Lebanon They Have To Have Respect Of

it's Hezbollah

Israel and Hezbollah

Hezbollah who wants to kill Israelis and dump their corpses in the ocean

don't know if there is an answer

Lebanon doesn't seem to have the strength in government to take on Hezbollah

[yurbud]

41. Israel has refused the solution that worked incredibly well in Cyprus

Third party troops separating the two sides and enforcing the border.

The reality is, as long as there's turmoil, they can put in more settlements behind the troops sent in to put down Palestinian unrest.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

42. What little I know about them

that I get from the MSM, I don't think I care for them very much.

I don't understand why Lebanon can't get rid of them.

But then what do I know?

[otherlander]

54. I think it's because there's a faction in Lebanon's military

that supports them, and if ordered to destroy Hezbollah, would desert and join with them instead, and civil war would break out.

[catbert836]

67. They've played a similar role

to the one Hamas played in Palestine. They've built community infrastructure, and have thus garnered some support among the people. In addition, there is a significant segment of the Lebanese military that is also a part of Hezbollah.

[whistle]

43. What??? I support no organization which uses terror means to achieve

...political, economic, civil, military or any other type of power and domination over individuals, groups and societies, whether those organizations admit or deny that they use terror. Hezbollah, Hamas and the Israeli military and government are equally all at fault here regardless of who made the first attack on the other.

I also hold the Bush administration fully culpable as well. I especially hold president George W Bush as leader of the most powerful nation in the world for choosing to do nothing and actually publicly showing defiance and reticule by allowing the situation to reach the level it has and ignoring the plight and safety of over 700,000 Lebanese residents now refugees and in harms way. Bush has taken no steps to intervene. He has repeatedly and publicly refused to support a UN resolution for a cease fire by Israel and Hezbollah or Hamas in Palestine West Bank and Gaza. Bush has even directed Condi Rice (Secretary of State) and John Bolton (U.S. Ambassador to the UN) to use no diplomatic means what so ever to curb or stop the use of military force. This makes the Bush Administration therefore a party to the use of terror as well.

[StellaBlue]

46. NO!

But I also don't understand the blind loyalty to Israel by American Jews even when Israel is the agressor. Many of these same people are openly anti-American-foreign policy (like myself!). WTF? They must have severe cognitive dissonance.

I don't get what's so hard for people to understand about the consequences of creating a state in an already-populated area for people who are almost universally distrusted by the surrounding population and who are then heavily and unconditionally supported by the richest countries in the world.

All violence is pointless.

[Rex]

47. All violence is pointless.

That pretty much sums it up in four words! Thanks!

[AGiordino]

49. I'm for the cessation of the American Taxpayer bankrolling

the Israeli government in whatever the vendetta-of-the-week they engage.
That money could be put to better use here in at Home.
Hezbollah and Hamas are addressing social issues of their countrymen while defending themselves against a nation that has at NO POINT in its history, current or ancient, been able to exist side-by-side with any other peoples without ceaseless nonstop aggression.
When peace threatens as it did with Itzak Rabin, they murder their own.
And we are forced by foreign policy dictates to support this.
Anybody here recall the USS Liberty during the 1967 war?
Great allies those Israelis.
Their plan all along has been to put their citizens at risk and cry 'genocide'.
IMHO they have become teir own worst persecutors simply by their continued aggressive actions.

[Raksha]

61. It sounds like you don't like Jews.

Re >>against a nation that has at NO POINT in its history, current or ancient, been able to exist side-by-side with any other peoples without ceaseless nonstop aggression.<<

"Current or ancient"??? So it's some kind of character flaw on the part of the Israelites that they were located on a major caravan route that was constantly being invaded/occupied by foreigners whenever they had the military capability to get away with it?


Re >>Their plan all along has been to put their citizens at risk and cry 'genocide'.
IMHO they have become teir own worst persecutors simply by their continued aggressive actions.<<

Their PLAN has been to put their citizens at risk and then cry "genocide"? I'm not denying that Israel is inflicting far greater damage on Lebanon than it is receiving...NOW, in the present. But at the time of its founding the Jews HAD in fact been the victims of the worst but by no means the first genocide against them by people who seemed to believe they had no right to exist. This is a historical fact, and since when has it become politically incorrect to say so?

I don't think I like you very much either.

[Karenca]

89. Your post sounds like you

hate Jewish people.

[rurallib]

50. I am nuetral - both sides are wrong

[kentuck]

52. If you did support Hezbollah, would you be considered a traitor?

To this country? Or to Israel? Or to both?

[Rex]

63. I dunno. I doubt it.

Even if you were considered a traitor, you would have to stand in a long line with other assumed traitors. Think Ann Coulter. I can't speak for Israel.

[otherlander]

55. I don't.

[TomClash]

56. No one

But you are quite right - there are some DU posters who act as though if you don't support every Israeli action then you must support Hezbollah. It's rubbish.

[Mass]

This thread shows a few posters refuse to say they do not support

hezbollah either. It seems to me that they are wrong as well.

[TomClash]

88. I completely agree nt

[sueragingroz]

57. You do realize that all of this bickering over Hez vs. Isreal

Is meant to distract you from what is really going on....

A planned military operation against Iran and/or Syria.

Democracy birth pangs and all that...

Oh and the money that the Robber Baron Military Industrialists stand to gain!

[Rex]

62. Yeah some of us here knew about that the moment this all started.

Bush HAS to find a way to go to war with Iran. He needs us distracted for another two years.

[Mass]

75. Yes, but it is more fun to attack each other than to try to see the true

issue.

[Rex]

79. Oh yeah, absolutely.

When we can't lashout at the people who deserve it (Bush/Cheney) we do it to each other.

[Mass]

81. What opened my eyes is the thread for peace that benburch posted a couple

days ago.

You could think this thread by now would have 500 + signatures. It did not happen.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1690487&mesg_id=1690487

[Phrogman]

66. You're right, its a distraction and justification for "Act 1" of WW3

Its the cartoon at the beginning of the movie.

[catbert836]

65. I support Lebanon

and the Lebanese people against what I see as Israeli aggresion. The strikes on Lebanon have not been surgically coordinated against Hezbollah at all.

[Behind the Aegis]

68. It works both ways!

[Mass]

76. Absolutely, but as some posters will never condemn Israel, some never

condemn Hezbollah. It seems to me that the pattern is pretty clear, and, frankly, this is what has made the situation difficult these last few days (both sides, I mean).

[ShortnFiery]

69. No, I'm not a part of the Lebanese people, NOR do I support Israel

[oasis]

70. Not me. (eom)

[theanarch]

71. a few points:

When Syria was invited by the Lebanese gov't. (then dominated by Maronite Christians) to occupy the country as a means of ending its civil war, the original plan was for Syria to occupy the entire country, right up to Israel's northern border. Israel made it clear than any Syrian troop movement south of the Litani River would be regarded as an act of war, so the Syrians stopped at the Litani, creating a no-man's land between the river and the Israeli border--home to 40% of Lebanon's population (mostly Shi'ia). In this void, Hezbollah was created, to provide for residents the kinds of services the Lebanese gov't. couldn't (schools, health clinics, and police/military security). For any number of reasons (including water), Israel invaded this zone and occupied it for 18 years, administering it much as they did the West Bank and Gaza, which is to say, with total disregard for the well-being of those who lived there (a crime against humanity, by UN/World Court definition). It is generally conceded on all sides that Israel withdrew (2000) because the costs of occupation had become prohibitive; yet, the IDF kept updating its plans for returning, should the POLITICAL situation make it necessary.

The question is not if one "supports" Hezbollah or not. The more relevant point is that Hezbollah exists as a popular organization, and as such represents a major constituancy in Lebanon whose concerns will have to be accomodated/addressed if anything resembling peace is to be achieved. That Hezbollah is the chosen representative of this constituancy is a reality all sides have to accept as a precondition to any settlement; the only alternative is to continue to pretend that Hezbollah is just another out-of-control terrorist group with no legitimacy, which merely condemns that region to years and decades of unending war.

The Lebanese gov't. seems to understand this, thus allowing Hezbollah deputies to serve in the national legislature (23 of 120 seats), and inclusion in the gov't. with cabinet positions (2--Labor and Energy); this is called "drawing" them into the political process, giving Hezbollah a stake in civil gov't., and an creating an opening for them to give up the armed struggle, which has mostly been directed against Israel, which clearly has no interest in negotiating anything with anyone, except at the point of a gun.

As for Hezbollah's relationship with Syria and Iran, yes, they obviously have one, which includes not only military supplies and a certain political alignment, but other forms of non-lethal aid as well (medical supplies and equipment, for example). It should also be noted that, whatever the exact nature of this relationship, Hezbollah is first and formost a Lebanese organization, and places its agenda and goals ahead of anything Syria or Iran might want. To say, as many here have, that Hezbollah is simply a puppet of Syrian or Iran is to oversimplify the situation beyond rational discussion.

Finally, there is no shortage of examples of terrorist organizations or leaders transforming themselves into political parties and governments: former Israeli PM Begin started out as a thug for Irgun; Sharon began his career as a special forces commander specializing in murder and terrorism against Palestinian civilians; Arafat rose through the ranks of the PLO to become PM of the Palestinian Authority (and Israel's sock-puppet/scapegoat/whipping boy); Robert Mugabe led a vicious, terrorist campaign against the white gov't. of Zimbabwe to become it's Prime Minister. Hell, the British considered Washington, Jefferson, Adams, et al as common criminals and terrorists, and they are among the most revered of American historical personages.

[JackNewtown]

74. No, hezbollah is pure evil nt

[Slaughtermeyer]

80. Former Israeli MK blames creation of Hezbollah on Ariel Sharon

The Shia in Lebanon were actually pro-Israel until Sharon antagonized them:

http://www.gush-shalom.org/archives/article237.html

[rman]

84. "pure evil" is the stuff of fairytales and horror stories

"communists are devils" (Reagan)
"axis of evil" (Bush)
"axis of hate" (Israel)

All hyperboles.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

90. Those are hyperboles

but "pure evil" exists, in my opinion. Hitler was pure evil.

[Mass]

78. I support that people on both sides of the border can leave in peace.

This is what should prevail and it is sad that many here are only interested in casting the blame. I agree with what you said both for Hezbollah and Israel.

[IronLionZion]

82. Switzerland eom

[Triana]

83. I do not support Hezbollah, nor do I support Israel...

...and I'm with you - third party arbitration. But the shit Israel is doing damn well is not necessary (they WAY overreacted), and the shit Hezbollah is doing is not necessary either.

[eridani]

86. Israel created Hezbollah

The organization would never have existed had Israel not invaded Lebanon in 1982.

[Douglas Carpenter]

87. Does one support Saddam Hussein or Bush's war in Iraq?

I would like to think it is possible to oppose both.

[NNN0LHI]

93. I support neither Hezbollah or the Israeli regime. I support America n/t