"In 48 Hours . . Mighty Israeli Air Force Would Settle All The Problems"

[Strelnikov_]

Illan Pappe, Israeli Historian, on Thursdays Democracy Now!

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/20/1435205

So you can get the consensus around the government policies, but, you know, from history we know that the majority support for certain policies doesn't vindicate it or doesn’t justify it. And for the first time, I think, this war actually -- and this is my great hope, as well -- is going to bring questions to the fore, because I think more and more Israelis realize that what they were promised a week ago, that in 48 hours or so the mighty Israeli Air Force would settle all the problems of the Middle East for once and for all, this promise was made in vain, and my hope is that the Israelis will start to ask questions that would first lead to the end of this war, but maybe would start an era of pluralism in Israel, which pretends to be a democracy, with some of the more bizarre and dangerous policies of the government would be questioned by its society.


Sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it.

The ease with which Iraq can be conquered, and self-funded!!!!

The mastery our air forces will exhibit as it crushes the Iranian nuclear threat, and from the bomb craters of our JDAM's of Freedom^TM a compliant Petro-Democracy^TM will rise!!!!

Never mind the critical energy infrastructure industrialized society depends on. Our military will simply swat aside any threats.


It is, but also the Iranian people dislike their regime. I think they would be – the right use of targeted military force — but especially if political pressure before we use military force – could cause them to reconsider whether they really want to have this regime in power. There are even moderates – they are not wonderful people — but people in the government itself who are probably nervous about Ahmadinejad’s recklessness.

- Bill Kristol


A hard rain is about to fall.

[knowbody0]

1. shall we anticipate the "mission accomplished" banner?

[Swede]

2. It's gonna be a ground war.

And it's gonna be dirty and bloody.

[Fredda Weinberg]

3. 48 hrs? I've been paying close attention and never heard that

And I can't find anything like that in last week's Haaretz, either.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

5. Shush! Don't you see you're disrupting the anti-semitic vibe?

Sure, Israeli solders inside Israel's territory were ambushed in a vicious premeditated attack, but remember this is the "Democratic"-Underground. - therefore Israel is always a violent irrational aggressor against the innocent people, who only want to live in peace (after destroying Israel).

That's always true. Always. No matter the facts.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Strelnikov_]

7. What Part Of My Post Implies An 'Anti-Semitic' Vibe?

And did I not provide a link to the source of the '48 hour' statement?

The context of my post was clear. Based on the DN interview, the Israeli people are being subjected to the same 'home before the leaves fall' propaganda all nations, including ourselves, are subject to in advance of a war. If the person being interviewed is lying, take it up with him.

Israel was informed that operations against Iran will be initiated within the next six months, and they are preemptively eliminating the Hezbollah threat. If I were in their shoes, I would do the same.

I see Israel as simply taking preemptive defensive measures against the firestorm that will soon engulf the Middle East and Persian Gulf region.

This chain of events was set in motion the day the Neocons decided to invade Iraq.

It did not have to be this way. If the Neocons had:

1) Concentrated on Afghanistan and finished the job of stabilizing that region.

2) Engaged Iran and Syria politically and economically following 9/11. The lines of communication were open.

3) Placed the resources of the US behind stabilization of Lebanon (including dismantling of militias) and resolution of the P/I conflict (imagine how far the money spent on Iraq would have gone to jump-starting a viable Palestinian State and reconstruction of Lebanon)

The outcome could have been quite different.


So, why don't you complain to them?

[MADem]

6. I have to say, that is the first I heard of it as well.

I did hear that they had a timetable of operations that they planned on conducting, that Bush, Blair, and all the others at the G8, like it or not, were aware of; and that this roughed out game-plan (ten days, three weeks? who knows?) could slop over 48 to 72 hours EITHER WAY. So, the evolution could take a day or three more to finish, or a day or three LESS to finish, depending on factors that arise once engaged.

[Strelnikov_]

8. I Apologize If The Statement Is Inaccurate, But I Did Provide A Link

the the source.

This is a general discussion board, after all, not the New York Times (pre-2001 of course).

The context of my post was that, based on the DN interview, the Israeli people are being subjected to the same 'home before the leaves fall' propaganda all nations, including ourselves, are subject to in advance of a war.

[DELUSIONAL]

4. Could it be that the same Neocons are advising both the US

and Israel??

The 48 hour promise to the Israeli people is one I hadn't heard before -- but not surprising.

There does seem to be some evidence . . that this war is following a Neocon plan.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG21Ak01.html


All according to plan
The world has seen this movie before. The seed for understanding the New Middle East war was sown 10 years ago, in 1996. Everything keeps pointing back to the infamous paper "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm", prepared by neo-cons such as Richard Perle, David and Meyrav Wurmser and Douglas Feith for Likud hardliner Benyamin Netanyahu. <1>

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www.iasps.org/strat1.htm -- this is a Neocon website -- explore this website -- bookmark it. If you want to know what's going to happen next -- this website might have the answer.