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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:02 AM
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Anyone have a link to the PNAC master plan?
I saw this mentioned in another thread. The poster said it had been removed from the PNAC site so I am wondering if someone here has it saved. It would be interesting to read it and then compare it to events over the past five years and potential events in the next few years.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:03 AM
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1. I think it is HellinaHandbasket.com nt
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:05 AM
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3. Goddamit that was funny!!!!!
Thx! I needed a laugh!!!!
:rofl:



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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:14 AM
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5. Glad I could be of assistance
It's that fine California wine talking thru me.

Where in CA are you?

I am in Tiburon (S Marin).
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:37 AM
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19. Interior Mendo county...
hot as hades today
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:04 AM
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2. It's still there
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:24 AM
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7. Have you tried to get beyond the first page lately?
I haven't been able to and on the rare one time I could, all the pages were blank.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:28 AM
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9. They all come up fine for me..
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:29 AM
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10. I'm not having that problem
There are two blank pages or blank areas in the beginning, but it doesn't look like any text has been removed.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:30 AM
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11. I dunno. It must be my puter then. I can't get the pages to load
and the one time I could they were all blank. I never had that problem before with their pdf files.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:31 AM
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16. I couple of days ago I was at their site
I was looking to see what they said about Iran back in 1999. That page didn't come up for me, but the others did.

I wonder if they are rewriting history. :shrug:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:49 AM
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21. Those are the propaganda publications, the real PNAC
...which the neoconservatives, BushCo and the Dominionists have been following are top secret documents.

http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/gehlen2.htm
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:05 AM
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4. Google "Rebuilding America's Defenses" and look for the .pdf file
And no, it hasn't been removed from the PNAC site.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:26 AM
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8. No it hasn't been removed but have you tried to get beyond
the first page? Maybe it's my acrobat but I did update it recently.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:14 AM
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6. try these links --
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG21Ak01.html

This was posted yesterday by a DUer --
here's a snip from the long and must read article -- the link to the Neocon website is below

All according to plan
The world has seen this movie before. The seed for understanding the New Middle East war was sown 10 years ago, in 1996. Everything keeps pointing back to the infamous paper "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm", prepared by neo-cons such as Richard Perle, David and Meyrav Wurmser and Douglas Feith for Likud hardliner Benyamin Netanyahu. <1>

The "getting rid of Saddam" part has already been accomplished. The total degradation of the Palestinians is ongoing. The "destabilizing of Syria in Lebanon" took place last year. The next step would be hitting at both Syria and Iran via Lebanon.

Five months ago, Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah's leader, warned in a public speech that if Israel did not release the Lebanese prisoners it was holding, "we will try to get an Israeli soldier". That's exactly what happened. Israel knew it and had five months to prepare for an invasion and/or the current "pinpoint" bombing of Lebanon's infrastructure - something that any military strategist knows cannot be prepared in a day or two.

The fact that the Bush administration and the Olmert government in tandem blame both Syria and Iran follows the Clean Break plan to the letter. And the plan could have been fine-tuned very recently. Former Likudnik Olmert went to the US in May and Likud chairman Netanyahu followed him in June - and landed in neo-con heaven, participating in a meeting with US Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld at a conference organized by the American Enterprise Institute in Colorado.


http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm

http://www.iasps.org -- neocons home page

here is a list of neocon names from the above website:

Participants in the Study Group on "A New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000:"

Richard Perle, American Enterprise Institute, Study Group Leader

James Colbert, Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs
Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Johns Hopkins University/SAIS
Douglas Feith, Feith and Zell Associates
Robert Loewenberg, President, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies
Jonathan Torop, The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
David Wurmser, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies
Meyrav Wurmser, Johns Hopkins University
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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:32 AM
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12. thanks all. If you have read them what do you think?
How far along are they and how far will they get by 2009?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:39 AM
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13. They are further along than I would have given them credit for.
If they go all the way, we will have nuclear satellites aimed at every nation or Reagan's star war's SDI's after we impose a Pax Americana through the world with our military ruling everything that is important to us. It's worse than Hitler's plan to rule the world. However, they have been so incompetant with their initial military action I hope it all implodes on them. It won't be good for us as a nation but maybe all those idiots who voted for Bush need the lesson.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:08 AM
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14. Dunno yet, but here is something I've read many times over
Thomas Donnelly, the document’s principal author and recently PNAC’s deputy director (until he was recruited by Lockheed-Martin), expressed the hope that “the project’s report will be useful as a road map for the nation’s immediate and future defense plans.” His hope has been realized in the new security strategy and military build-up of the current Bush administration. Many of PNAC’s conclusions and recommendations are reflected in the White House’s National Security Strategy document, which reflects the “peace through strength” credo that shapes PNAC strategic thinking.

The Bush administration has opted for a security strategy that is aggressive and that prioritizes the use of the military to deliver weapons of mass destruction. In his introduction to the strategy document, President Bush states that this American peace will be maintained “by fighting terrorists and tyrants.” Moreover, “as a matter of common sense and self-defense, America will act against such emerging threats before they are fully formed.” Echoing the conclusions of the PNAC’s document calling for increased U.S. military projection, the White House’s own strategy document focuses not only on rogues but also on great powers, particularly China, that are regarded as peer competitors.

http://www.fpif.org/papers/foretold_body.html

Another DUer posted above the Israeli policy paper called "A Clean Break." It, too, stresses a “peace through strength” credo. Here's an intersting analysis of it:

Clean Break or Dirty War?
Israel’s Foreign Policy Directive to the United States
Executive Summary

Great changes are seldom achieved without a plan. The Israeli policy paper “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” (ACB) was authored by a group of policy advisors to Israel. Subsequently, nearly all members ascended to influential policy making positions within U.S. government, media, and academic circles. Many of the ACB policies such as toppling the government of Iraq are now in full implementation and present new challenges to the global community. Others, such as the reform of Israel’s economy have been abysmal failures, but generate little visibility or impact outside of Israel.


Cont'd:
http://www.irmep.org/Policy_Briefs/3_27_2003_Clean_Break_or_Dirty_War.html

And since we're on the topic of foreign defense policies, PNAC, et al, here's another interesting analysis of our current foreign policy under Bush & Co.:

U.S. Policy Towards Iraq: Unraveling the Web

Laurence A. Toenjes

Executive Summary

When the United States began transporting troops to the Persian Gulf in the fall of 2002 it was evident that the war against Iraq was underway. This paper was begun in an attempt to answer the question: How did the war against Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda become the war to depose Saddam Hussein?

The effort to understand this change in U.S. policy led to a picture of a relatively small group of persons associated with certain think tanks and other organizations achieving disproportionate influence over the policy formulation process. The activities of fourteen organizations were coordinated by individuals who comprised a web of interlocking memberships. Many of these individuals were on record calling for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein as far back as 1998, in a letter to President Clinton. This was well before the September 11, 2001 attack on the World Trade Center and before George W. Bush became President.

The main contribution of this paper is the attempt to quantify the inter-linked nature of the 14 organizations by cross-tabulating individuals with memberships in two or more of them. Examples: Richard Perle was associated with 10 of the 14, Jeane Kirkpatrick with 7, James Woolsey with 6, John Bolton with 4. Altogether 223 links were found between the 14 groups, where a link is defined as the association of a single individual with two organizations. Although over 650 individuals associated with the 14 organizations included in the study were analyzed, just 9 individuals formed 121 of the inter-group links, accounting for over half of the total. This concentration of the inter-group linkages suggests that a small number of individuals could effectively influence and coordinate the foreign policy impact of these organizations.


Using a threshold of at least 3 members in common, a subgroup of 5 organizations was identified as forming a “clique”. A “clique” is defined as the largest subgroup wherein each is directly related to each of the others. In this case, this meant that each of the 10 pairs among the five shared at least three members. This clique consisted of The Project for the New American Century (PNAC), The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI), The Center for Security Policy (CSP), The Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee (DPB), and The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA).


Based upon mission statements and observed actions, the members of the clique appeared to play somewhat specialized and mutually supporting roles in the policy process. For example, PNAC was instrumental in preparing the over-all plan (Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century), while the presence of JINSA helped insure the interests of Israel as well as of the United States. The CLI was set up in the fall of 2002, reportedly at the behest of Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, to “engage in educational and advocacy efforts to mobilize US and international support for policies aimed at ending the aggression of Saddam Hussein and freeing the Iraqi people from tyranny.” That is, the purpose of the CLI was to sell the war abroad as well as to US citizens. The CSP prided itself in expertise and facilities to efficiently disseminate a flood of position papers and press releases to Congress, the Administration, and the public at large. The DPB provided a direct link into the bowels of the Pentagon, with its members having access to classified information and the opportunity to make private presentations to the upper echelons of the Department of Defense.


A diagram is included which visually depicts the interrelations among the 14 organizations.


Cont'd: I recommend the PDF version, as an important diagram called Figure 1 is not viewable in the HTML version for some reason:

PDF:
http://www.opednews.com/toenjes_IraqPolicyWeb_withTables_July19.doc

HTML: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:tCe3qbnj7CkJ:www.opednews.com/toenjes_IraqPolicyWeb_withTables_July19.doc+U.S.+Policy+Towards+Iraq:+Unraveling+the+Web&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:36 AM
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18. "Might makes right"
Nothing else so succinctly encapsulates how the Neocons/Repugs operate -- on every level.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:32 AM
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17. It's like reading the script before watching the movie. n/t
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:24 AM
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15. With John Bolton's hearings on the horizon, PNAC info could be useful.
Edited on Sun Jul-23-06 01:24 AM by oasis
:think:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:38 AM
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20. WWW.WeAreFucked.com
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