A Mexican woman has been found dead in the desert near Arivaca

[AlphaCentauri]

TUCSON, Ariz. A Mexican woman has been found dead in the desert near Arivaca (ayr-uh-VAH'-kuh) after she and two relatives were left behind by a human smuggler.

Border Patrol agents found the 55-year-old illegal immigrant after a relative flagged them down Thursday night. Authorities said the woman was pronounced dead at the scene.

http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=5184059&nav=HMO6

[MissWaverly]

1. Oh, the poor woman

what a terrible thing, this is what bullies at the border will cause, why can't we help
out Mexico's economy to help alleviate illegals coming here.

[sallyseven]

5. The ruling class of prominent and rich mexicans

could do this but they won't. It is not in their best interest. The americans that are making a fortune in America and in Mexico won't do it either. Bush doesn't give a rozen-toot about anyone but his rich white friends. These people have no power and the american public doesn't want them here. So there you have it no one wants the poor mexicans. They will use them but they don't like them. They are poor.

[MissWaverly]

7. well, who crashed their economy with Walmart and corn

US, US, US, I wish we would step up to the plate and take responsibility for what we do.

[AlphaCentauri]

8. the bullies facing questions about their finances

Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R), who's facing a serious challenge from Harry Mitchell (D) this fall, just loves the Minutemen Project, that hearty band of patriots who patrol the Mexican border in night-goggles. Last year Hayworth held a press conference insisting that President Bush apologize for maligning the group, which he has called “extraordinary Americans.”

Well, here's something that Hayworth might not find so extraordinary: The group is facing questions about its finances. It looks like some of the border-patrol boys are wondering where the money they collect has been going, and they can't quite fathom how it ended up at a charity controlled by conservative commentator Alan Keyes. How can vigilante border cops do their duty if the money isn't there to pay for radios and night-vision scopes?

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/jul/21/vigilante_border_groups_money

[MissWaverly]

9. so the neocons are milking the minutemen

Why am I not surprised, why anyone who did not hear about the wheeze with the Indians and
casino gambling did not think it would be used on them I don't know.

[AlphaCentauri]

14. To support them is the same as supporting neocons

they just share resources

:bluebox:

[MissWaverly]

15. No, I see the Minutemen as the duped sods who are

trying to protect the life they knew, they don't realize that those they support only support
large global corporations and their greatest desire is a large global state where the wealthy
will live in luxury surrounded by a police state with it's boot on low paid workers.

[Saturday]

11. This death was caused by.....

the "bullies at the border"? Proof please.

[MissWaverly]

13. Look, we have crashed Mexico's economy

what do we expect the people to do starve in place, by tightening up US security at the border
people are forced to take more dangerous routes into our country. Regardless of your feelings
about illegals, we had no right to Walmart their country.

[Horse with no Name]

21. Please don't forget

That not only have we crashed their economy, they have no social safety net.
If they don't work, they don't eat.
There aren't any jobs to be had and no food stamps or commodities to be had.
Their ONLY recourse is to cross the border and try to eke out a small living so their kids don't starve.
Who can blame them, really?

[MissWaverly]

23. No, and if we had any smarts, we would be a good neighbor

and do a mutually beneficial help with their oil fields instead of hoping to gobble the pie.
That would jump start jobs here and there. The Mexican government currently owns its oil
fields but we are waiting in the wings hoping to come in as "foreign investors."

[AlphaCentauri]

24. Many love their oil but not the people

others love their tequila but hate them

[MissWaverly]

25. well, the age of the conquistadors and robber barons is dead

I think America has backed itself into a corner due its inability to deal with corporate greed
on many levels.

[AlphaCentauri]

26. that's true n/t

[Skidmore]

2. Fpr this type of tragedy alone, some solution to illegal

immigration needs to be settled on--and one which does not encourage more of it.

[unlawflcombatnt]

28. I agree

We definitely shouldn't be trying to "solve" any problems with illegal immigration by increasing the number who come here.

There are definite limits to what the U.S. can do to "fix" Mexico's corruption and its economy. However, we do have some control over events inside the United States. American workers should not have their wages suppressed by massive influx of illegal immigrants, especially when none of Mexico's problems were created by American workers. The NAFTA fiasco was a result of the American Corporatocracy, not the American people who strongly opposed it.

The fact that NAFTA was a disaster for both Mexico and the United States does not justify worsening the situation for American workers by granting amnesty to illegal immigrants, and even increasing their number. 2 wrongs do NOT make a right. And the NAFTA wrong was foisted on the American people completely against their will.

The American people are not the source of Mexico's problems, and should not be forced to pay the consequences of those problems.

unlawflcombatnt

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The economy needs balance between the "means of production" & "means of consumption."

[Bobbieo]

3. I'm from Yuma and know these summer temps are killers.

I've been thinking about people trying to cross the desert in this heat. It is heartbreaking, but most of them are not border people. They come from the Mexican interior or Central America and have lived in the tropics or mountainous regions and have no concept of desert heat until it is too late.

[AlphaCentauri]

4. Identities are never known of many who die in the desert

It's often hard to identify the bodies, officials said, because they decompose in the heat and animals eat and pull apart the carcasses.

Hundreds of people who die each year in the desert along the U.S.-Mexico border are sent back home. Fifty-one bodies were found last year in the desert by the U.S. Border Patrol's Yuma sector that secures 115 miles of the Yuma County-Mexico border.

http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/9121

[tyedyeto]

6. The Arivaca area is also where people picked up a couple of...

undocumented Mexicans to take them to Tucson for medical treatment and now they are being tried for aiding and abetting

[AlphaCentauri]

10. I guess RW elements think Compassion is a trade mark they own

and this people committed trademark infringement

[lonestarnot]

12. Damn fuckers!

Enticing people to work here for shit nothing but a hard life!

[helderheid]

16. From the article by Thom Hartmann:

"These Illegal Employers, in their quest for ever-cheaper labor, are drawing people to cross our borders in ways that cause many people to die in the deserts of the southwest. These people were executed, for all practical purposes, by the policies of a few greedy and lawbreaking American companies. When companies are repeat offenders, they should be dissolved, their assets sold to reimburse their shareholders, and let other, more ethical companies pick up the slack. "

[unlawflcombatnt]

29. Hartmann is right on, as usual

I completely agree with Hartmann. And it should be pointed out that Hartmann opposes illegal immigration, because it suppresses the wages of American workers. Hartmann strongly opposes amnesty and guest workers. He sees illegal immigration for exactly what it is, a source of cheap labor for Corporate America and American business. And he sees the hiring of illegal immigrants as a tool to suppress American worker wages.

unlawflcombatnt

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[undeterred]

17. Thank goodness it wasn't stem cells or a fetus

:sarcasm:

[AlphaCentauri]

18. That would be a national tragedy

:sarcasm:

[undeterred]

19. Because we're against murder and for a culture of life

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

[AlphaCentauri]

20. is not about hypocrisy it's about values

:sarcasm:

[AlphaCentauri]

22. others die in a different way

Police found a 21-year-old immigrant dead yesterday, apparently the victim of smugglers who had not been paid for bringing him into the United States, San Diego police said.

Neither police nor the medical examiner would identify the victim.

The victim's mother told police her son had arrived at her apartment on 28th Street in Grant Hill just after midnight accompanied by a woman who demanded money, homicide Lt. Jeff Sferra said. The mother did not have the money, and the woman left.

Two hours later, two men arrived at the mother's apartment and told her that she must have the money by noon, and then they took her son, Sferra said.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20060723-9999-1m23killed.html

[ErisFiveFingers]

27. If you think neo-cons are lowest of the low...

Then you've never dealt with the coyotes.

It's not unusual for them to leave people to die. In southern AZ (I'm a native Tucsonan), rather than this being the execption, it's *so* much the rule that their are quite a few clandestine operations in the liberal community to simply rescue these people from certain death.