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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:53 AM
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Gas prices
Where I live in Arizona gas has went up 15 cents a gallon in the last month.What the hell is going on???We are now at 2.36 a gallon
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:55 AM
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1. Ha! We're about the same in CT.
They are jerking us left and right!
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:56 AM
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2. I think gas is going up because, we are getting ready to go into Iran.
It went up .14 here.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:04 AM
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7. Yah like we can affod another war
and more deaths and troops coming home to poor care from the VA.What is it going to take to get these pigs out of the white house???
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:12 AM
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13. Gas is 2.79 here, and going up. But I agree with you re Iran
I'm amazed at the Europeans jumping on this bandwagon.

What if Iran were to position its troops around its oil pipelines and the minute the west looks like it's planning to attack, stop all production and render them inoperable? The west is so dependent on oil for everything. Iraq is hardly producing any oil because of this war. What if Iran too stops producing, and now that Bush has alienated Venezuela and the rest of S. America, any war they start could easily be won by oil producing countries, merely by stopping delivery to any country that joins in the aggression. The War Machine would collapse without oil.

We better pray that all these countries from whom we get oil, do not join in a boycott to protest the aggression of the West.

I also read that oil prices went up today because of Nigeria. What a mess they have created, all of them. I think it might smart to start learning how to live without oil ~
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:15 AM
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15. How do we do that???
We have to be able to drive to the store and the dr and get groceries and how do we heat our homes???
bushco has created a monster that is out of control and the only solution I see in a revolution.How sad that he had to open Pandora's box
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:23 AM
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20. You may have to buy couple portable electric heater and use it
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 02:25 AM by Rainscents
to heat the rooms.
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Kalisiin Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:58 AM
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3. Exxon-Mobil And Bush&Co And The Rest Of Them Are Holding Us Hostage
to their bottom line. They give a fuck about the fact that more and more families are having to choose between gasoline and food...or heating this winter and food...as long as they are making money hand over fist, they figure fuck the poor. Fuck the working class.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:03 AM
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4. has anyone heard any explanation???
They dont even mention it on tv anymore!!!!My husband and i are retired and we can barely afford to heat the house and put gas in the car.Our medicare went up and our supplement ins.goes up almost every month.With the way they are putting the housing market so high we are now paying double property taxes.I dont know how people are going to afford to live in this country?They said on tv tonight on nightline that people have an average income of 60,000 a year so they will need that much to retire.Guess we all work til we die
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Kalisiin Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:06 AM
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8. NOW You're Getting With The Program!!!
Get it? We're supposed to work until Corporate America has sucked every last useful drop of anything resembling life that we have left, and then they take us out to the curb in a Glad Bag! What, did you actually think YOU were going to get to enjoy retirement?

Shit, I'll never get to retire, and neither will most people my age. They will work us until we are dead or senile, and we will spend the rest of the time in a nursing home, having our drool wiped up by nurses. We aren't gonna get to enjoy the fruits of our labors.

At the end of it all, they will take us to the curb in Glad Bags...or, maybe, if they get any MORE depraved than they already are, they will turn us all into Soylent Green.

this is the rich holding the big middle finger to everyone who isn't rich.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:03 AM
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5. It's going to go up more
The trading price of gasoline was as low as $1.46+ in December. Now it's above $1.83 last I checked. Similarly, oil per barrel has gone up from $56+ at that point to nearly $67 early today although I didn't look at the final number. So the relationship of that increase has not been passed off at the pump yet and you can bet it will be, or at least in much closer percentage than what we've seen. I filled up yesterday, both my cars. The short term trend is up.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:03 AM
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6. Heard Today On The Radio That Some Oil Expert Says That....
prices will go up about $0.25 per gallon each quarter in 2006 and that by the end of the year we will be paying $3.00+ per gallon.

They will continue squeezing the American people on the pricing until we say 'uncle'. Then they will back off the price until they feel the American people will tolerate the price.

Apparently they think that the American people can tolerate higher prices and that we haven't yelled 'uncle' loud enough yet. Remember in the past - there would be Congressional Hearings and the price would come down. Well that hasn't resonated yet. Congress is bought off and in control by the *Co regime and prices will continue to go up.

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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:07 AM
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10. last year
they said in 5 months the big oil corporations had made millions in profits.We are being raped by this government
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:07 AM
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34. You're one letter off.........
put a "B" in front of "illions", not an "M". And, as always, the government has found NO evidence of price gouging. :eyes:

There are no countries anymore, just Corporations hiding behind flags pulling all the strings. Capitalism at it's very worst and it all started with Republican backed "deregulation", the sweetest word in the Corporate dictionary.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:35 AM
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24. And following on my theory
They will back off as they did this year around Christmas so the sheeple will spend, spend, spend, spend spend. And then, come January 2007, it's back to the screws.

OTOH, we are running out of oil and our prices have been kept artificially low (ask Europe). I hate what this does to the average person out there but it is vitally necessary that we beef up mass transit and this is what will likely spur it in the long term. Man, is it going to hurt people in the short term though.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:39 AM
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27. Truer words were never spoken
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:07 AM
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9. Easy, smeasy
I predicted this at the end of November. Bush et al, didn't want the prices up during the "shopping season" so they were artificially held down while the sheeple spent themselves into a credit card maxed out haze (hope you weren't one who did that as well) and now, it's safe to let the prices go back up. Welcome to the post Christmas hangover.

Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same. as. it. ever was. (nod to the Talking Heads)
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:11 AM
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12. My heart breaks
For all the people who are not able to buy their meds and groceries and keep warm.This once great country is down the tubes.
I didnt charge much over xmas so I dont have to pay a credit card co.After all the bills were paid I didnt have much to spend and I told the family that.
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f-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:09 AM
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11. It will go up some more
til voters bitch enough or shrubs ratings get too low and then by a miracle that shrub will claim to have performed, the price will drop for a bit.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:12 AM
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14. Since it hasnt even been mentioned
on TV I guess the sheeple are just accepting it
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:27 AM
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21. Wrong
The people are hurting just as you have said so eloquently. It is the MSM that is not mentioning it. The corporations who own the media do not care to bring it up unless forced. The media is no more for the people, of the people or by the people than they were yesterday, last month or any time in the last thirty years despite what the right wing noise machine would have us believe.

But since I know your association with Cindy Sheehan, I know I'm preaching to the choir here. They cover what they are told to cover, nothing more, nothing less.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:33 AM
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23. SAD SAD SAD
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 02:34 AM by az chela
We have become the victims of this evil goverment along with Iraq and all the other poor countries.All one has to do is look at what they have done about katrina.bush fiddles while our country burns
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:38 AM
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25. Absolutely
On the up side (I know, it isn't much of an up side) people have been asking what will finally get people to stop this administration and it is just these sort of things. The revolution is fomenting. Whether it will be a peaceful one or not I cannot say but the limit will be reached and soon.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:41 AM
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28. doesnt seem like peaceful is working
Maybe a radical peace movement is what we need.the government wants to keep everyone so involved in the struggle to survive so that we dont fight back
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:47 AM
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31. Indeed, it doesn't
but I want it to go that way (peaceful). That said, if it doesn't, I will join up and fight. We shall see.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:50 AM
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32. I would be proud to walk along side of you
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f-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:45 AM
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29. No doubt!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:13 AM
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35. It's been all over the local channels...........
I imagine it's the same all around the country. The Corporate Media giants are staying away from it of course. They wouldn't do anything to make their golden goose, "W" look bad.

Gas is rising daily here in Western New York, it was $2.27 around Xmas now up to $2.49.
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f-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:15 PM
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40. Probably
and that's 90% of what's wrong with the US today. People are either so complacent or cowed that they either don't give a damn or are too scared to make waves.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:16 AM
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16. Supply and Demand or rather
the perception of supply and demand. The supply side of the equation is spooked by the nut running Iran. When gas spiked to over $3/gallon, demand fell off. And thankfully those huge SUVs quit selling so well.:shrug:
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:18 AM
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18. my car
gets around 23 miles a gallon and it now costs almost 40 dollars to fill it up
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:19 AM
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19. Mine too. n/t
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:17 AM
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17. We're headed for $4.00+ a gallon, that's what's up.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:32 AM
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22. And on that note
I think people need to start thinking about what sort of alternatives they are going to start utilizing. My family (which already has more adults than the normal nuclear unit) is moving together with two other adults to make a five adult, one child family. That means we will be spending less on all the usual suspects. It isn't the only reason we decided to do this but it was on the pluses/minuses evaluation sheet.

I think a more communitarian viewpoint is in order. Pooling resources will help keep the powers that be from destroying us. It's a thought.

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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:38 AM
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26. A commune for each family and friends is an excellent idea
We could grow our own food,raise our own meat take care of each other.I was so for this in the 70's,just getting some land and everyone build a home and have a community center and all work together.How sad that we didnt learn during the 70's where we were headed as we could have had such a different future.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:45 AM
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30. Az chela
It has happened, quietly and much more strongly than people realize. Check out http://www.ic.org/.

The hippies did it with tons of fanfare but the movement went on with no fanfare and continues to this day.

I haven't been keeping up with it like I used to as I am on the brink of establishing something smaller but within that framework so I'm no longer looking for a community. I remember that site was a great resource though and the huge book of communities I got from them was such a treasure. I met some wonderful people through it.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:52 AM
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33. Just saved that site
Will read it tomorrow.Thank you so much for posting it.We have to be prepared for whatever lies ahead!!
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:30 AM
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36. Midgrade is 2.49 here in Richmond, VA. Up 30 cents in a month.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:30 AM
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37. oil price rising again, now $66.83
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:33 AM
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38. Weren't pre (s)election oil barrel prices around $50.00?
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 05:35 AM by pinniped
$2.52 premium grade early Tuesday morning.

I'll find out how much they jacked it after one day...
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:17 AM
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39. What cracks me up is all the idiots who voted for an oil president
thinking it would mean cheap gas..
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:43 PM
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41. If only we had invested in XOM instead of buying food and paying
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:46 PM
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42. It has stayed fairly steady here in North Georgia.
Regular has averaged $2.21 to $2.29 for the past couple of weeks.
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