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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 04:45 PM
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Does anyone belong to a church that says if you don;t say you agree with
Israel you are on the wrong side. Do they try to frighten you and tell you , that you are hell bound. Do they tell you that the scriptures are being fulfilled and that Israel is in its rightful place. What have you heard if you are a member of a church or other religious organization. Do you see conflicts in your area between Arabs, Jews or Christians...
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 04:48 PM
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1. a church I attend takes no sides, as a church. We are supposed to
find the good in all people and use that as a common ground to end hostility and hatred.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 04:54 PM
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2. that would be a church that would no longer have my butt in the pew.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 05:10 PM
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8. (lol!) Hell, they wouldn't even have a chance to achieve punctuation
... before the door was hitting me in the ass. I don't pretend 'courtesy' for more than 5 seconds in the face of blatant corruption.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 04:55 PM
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3. If I did, I'd be out that front door
and looking for a new church before the offensive sermon was over.

Any church that takes sides in a war is not for me.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 04:57 PM
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4. No.
We're allowed to make our own choices on how we feel.

And the only conflicts I see around here are a few nasty comments thrown around by some chickenhawks about Muslims in the area. Everyone else tries to get along.
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bigendian Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 05:03 PM
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5. No.
But I didn't make it to church today.
Fact of the matter is, my priest got me involved in the first anti-war protest (pre-invasion) that I had been in in decades.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 05:05 PM
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6. When I used to go to church
I did attend, for a short time, a church that taught precisely those things, AND that we were to "support" Israel because it's god's chosen land, but that Jews who didn't accept Jesus would be going to hell just like everybody else who "didn't believe." Scary, brainwashing crap. If they didn't have fear and hatred, I can't imagine how that particular brand of christianity could continue, as that's what it's made up of. Well, that and what some people call the gospel of riches--where god will bless you with money if you give money to the church; and if you GET money it's a sign god is pleased with you.

Needless to say, I quit that church and eventually the religion altogether. I realize not all Christian churches (or Christians) are that way, but sadly, even among those that aren't that extreme, there are a good number of judgmental attitudes, exclusivity, and superiority complexes among even "regular" churches. Not all, but a lot.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 05:39 PM
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10. I am starting to have the same problem as you..
concerning these churches and their judgemental and hypocritical ways. They claim one thing to get you as a member and then they don't practice what they preach.
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 05:05 PM
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7. Not Only That But...
My church regularly supports Muslims in our community ~ and Jews. We are always working towards social justice and the Jewish community here is working with Muslims and Christians towards peace. It was Jews and Christians who guarded the mosques, sitting in their parking lots all night after 9/11 to make sure no kooks hurt the people or their building. Because we all believe in God's love, not some hateful blow-upo doll-god.

I would say all people in this combined community believe that the whole Israel/Palestine thing is complicated and not blsck and white. We all know that life is not that way. We all know that loving one another means being neighbors to one another.


I say if we can do this here, we can do it anywhere ...

Cat In Seattle <---who wore a scarf after 9/11 to show solidarity with my Muslim sisters. Sometimes it was not pretty, but most of the time it was a godsend because I was able to show my respect and it felt good to do that. Plus I learned something new about Islam that I liked; when God is worshiped with all women, somehow God becomes more a "She" to me than when I worship in my own church with both sexes equal.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 05:43 PM
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11. There seems to be some conflicts brewing ...
in my area between the Arabs and the Jews with protest etc...
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 05:14 PM
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9. No. Many of those they're attacking belong to our church.
Many in the Palestinian territories and Lebanon are Christians, and most of those are Catholic or Eastern Orthodox. I belong to the Eastern Orthodox Church, and we're all just really sad about this. We can understand both sides. We aren't as okay with Israel, though, since they started taking away church properties we've had for centuries.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 05:44 PM
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12. Never been in such a place, and...
if I found myself in one, it wouldn't be for long.

Not my kind of church.


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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 05:53 PM
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13. No, I'm an Anglican. We leave such to the snake handlers and
Rapturists -- we're too busy trying to destroy ourselves over gays.
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