If bush has done nothing wrong, then he shouldn't fear a special counsel

[mopaul]

He should stand up proudly and say 'Bring it on'!


(mods, i tried to refresh this post from yesterday unsuccessfully so i started it up again, hope that's o.k.)

[liberal N proud]

1. Exactly!

If you want the American people to believe you, you welcome the investigation.

[mopaul]

2. his meetings with jack a., his reasons for the war, his spying on us...

he said he did it all to protect us, but an investigation might indicate otherwise.

come on w., are ya chicken?

[ProdigalJunkMail]

4. 'good' intentions don't give you the right

to trample the laws of the land...we know what he'll say his motives were...

sP

[chemenger]

30. Yea.

nine-eleven, terrists, if we don't fight 'em over there we'll haft'a fight 'em over here.
nine-eleven, terrists, if we don't fight 'em over there we'll haft'a fight 'em over here.
nine-eleven, terrists, if we don't fight 'em over there we'll haft'a fight 'em over here.
nine-eleven, terrists, if we don't fight 'em over there we'll haft'a fight 'em over here.
nine-eleven, terrists, if we don't fight 'em over there we'll haft'a fight 'em over here.


Ad infinitum, ad naseaum ... :puke:

[ProdigalJunkMail]

3. i still don't understand why an investigation is necessary

as he has admitted to doing this. He, in effect, has said ,"Bring it on." There is an open confession that millions have seen. The only thing left is for someone to determine legality and bring up charges (and that would be congress' job). The only thing outside of that avenue is to have the program stopped via lawsuits (which have already been filed). Why waste the time and money on a special counsel???

subjectProdigal

[mopaul]

5. good point, dubya may even use it.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

7. ok...what would your investigation turn up

that has not already been admitted to? What would you acheive beyond a confession that has already been offered? Motive isn't the issue here. There are too many ways to cloud motive and almost know way to prove it short of video and audio evidence. You can SAY what his motive was (in order to influence a jury or congress) but you cannot prove it...

You can come here and make pithy comments, but I would be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that you can't come up with and answer worth even ONE doughnut.

subjectProdigal

[mopaul]

8. i'll tell you what it would turn up...PERJURY, an impeachable crime

[ProdigalJunkMail]

9. which perjury would that be?

that he DIDN'T authorise the domestic spying to which he has ADMITTED?

Ok, maybe we are having a misunderstanding...I think there is much that should be investigated...just not this aspect...it doesn't go anywhere. You have motive, opportunity and a confession...nothing left to investigate on the domestic spying thing...but on others, oh yes...plenty to look at...

subjectProdigal

[mopaul]

10. spying is only one crime, lies about war, robbing the treasury, etc.

if he simply said he'd never met jack abramoff under oath, then he's impeached for lying under oath, the ultimate republican crime.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

12. sorry, mo...

thought you were only screaming about the wiretapping...my bad...apologies

sP

[mopaul]

14. i'm just screaming about everything, i'll calm down now.

[Village Idiot]

16. This stuff is all so familiar...

Remember when he said that he really didn't know Kenneth Lay too well?

... And then the "old friend, valued friendship" letter surfaced?

This stuff is NEVER going to see the light of day, Democrats are NEVER going to get specific answers regarding who Abramoff met with or why as long as * refuses to appoint a special investigator.

Even if they do appoint an investigator, what assurances can the Dems get that the investigator will not be tainted, or that information will not be witheld? If * is willing to commit mass murder, condone torture, extraordinary rendition, black ops, etc., why would he not be willing to commit simple perjury if he knows he can get away with it?

If the Democrats think things will change for the better in November, they had better begin to study history and recent events with a more citical eye. The Republicans fucked the Presidential electoral process in 2000, then they worked tirelessly to fuck the Congressional electoral process in 2002, they then PERFECTED their tactics through jerrymandering, disenfranchisement, outright tampering and hacking in order to establish A PERMANENT MAJORITY so they could fuck the 2004 Presidential electoral process WITHOUT CENSURE.

The USA is now a one-party fascist state, with the Executive exercising COMPLETE control over the Legislative (through permanent majority) and Judicial (through the appointment of fascist-friendly Judges) branches - to say nothing of the Operation Mokingbird control they have over the corporate media. The last guy to have this much power at his disposal was Hitler, and he did it in pretty much the same way.

The ONE THING the Democrats can do is DISSENT, OBSTRUCT and DISRUPT in order to keep USAsians aware that their liberty has been comprimised. I have no false hopes that they will be able to accomplish anything to derail this runaway train...

But I'm a pessimistic conspiracy theorist moonbat who hates 'Murrica...just like anyone else that sees something wrong with the "picture."

[mopaul]

22. if the hired help won't help us, we fire them and do it ourselves

if our own overly paid elected officials who bear a D won't come to america's rescue, i guess it's up to us.

[Village Idiot]

31. Shhhh....Don't say stuff like that out LOUD!

[izzie]

6. Well that is what they say about a tap on your phone.

Why should you care if you did nothing wrong.

[bryant69]

18. That's more or less what i would say

I do think we need an investigation (although it seems open and shut to me, as he confessed), and an impeachment, but saying the innocent have nothing to fear always sends a chill down my spine.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[izzie]

21. I wonder why they do not pass the ball back to them on this one?

I of course do mind and used to call to Saudi so guess I would have been on that list.

[mopaul]

23. i guess the fact that he admitted it makes it all perfectly legal

i'm being a smart ass of course, but is that their logic?

[Peter Frank]

11. Bu$h was hand picked by the PNAC cabal...

...because he had no spine.

[Pam-Moby]

13. mopaul, I agree with you.

Also if they are getting a bunch of unusable information from wire tapping. Then why are they still doing it?

[rock]

15. Zinger!

That is all.

[txindy]

17. Absolutely right. They shouldn't fear anything from an independent counsel

I nominate Patrick Fitzgerald or, should he be very busy at the moment (), someone of his choosing. The man is truly independent. I'd trust his recommendation.

[mopaul]

28. I nominate Patrick Fitzgerald...now yer talkin'!

[foreverdem]

29. I wish Fitzgerald could investigate all these scandals

Then at least we would know there is an actual investigation going on, and an honest one at that.

[insane_cratic_gal]

19. Ah but it starts to put doubts in the minds

of his ever shrinking base and expanding base.. that 38-40 percent crowd.

He knows it will define his presidency as it did Clinton's, but this time around it's not about a penis

[spanone]

20. If Bush* was following the law, why did he have to go around the courts.

I can't go around the courts, you can't go around the courts and the great thing about America is that BUSH* CAN'T GO AROUND THE COURTS EITHER.

Many questions abound. Lying Liars.....

[mopaul]

24. He HAD to piss on the constitution to save us from Saddam

who attacked us

[truebrit71]

25. I love your logic!!!

If he's innocent he should have no worries!!!

[mopaul]

27. he shouldn't mind answering some questions under oath

a lot of questions, and absolutely NONE of them about sex.

[pointblank]

26. Well

the fact that he refused to testify under oath to the 9/11 commission pretty much sealed the deal for me that he was a crooked bastard.

The day he welcomes a special counsel is the day I take a shit on a loaf of bread and eat it:puke: ...in other words, it aint gonna happen.

[bigtree]

32. out of spite, I want an investigation to roll into Fitz's lap like Starr

had with Pres. Clinton.

But what I don't want is an immediate criminal investigation which might put a lid on the information flow. Plenty of room to bleed them dry on this before we string em up.

[The Witch]

33. Oh, mopaul...

why is it that it makes it to the greatest page when YOU write it? :nopity:

Absolutely. This was in my letter to my Congresscritters. What's good for the goose...

[King Coal]

34. Mopaul, that made me laugh. Thanks. I needed that.