Cheney surfaces - singled out proposals made by Rep. John Murtha - pics

[Kadie]

Arkansas Republican gubernatorial candidate Asa Hutchinson, left, greets Vice President Dick Cheney at the podium Monday, July 24, 2006, during a fund-raising luncheon for Hutchinson's campaign at the Northwest Arkansas Convention Center in Springdale, Ark. Cheney, speaking at the fundraiser, said a rapid U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, as sought by some Democrats, would only provoke more attacks by al-Qaida on the United States. Cheney singled out proposals made by Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa. (AP Photo/Marc F. Henning)


Vice President Dick Cheney speaks to Northwest Arkansas Repulican party members Monday, July 24, 2006, during a fund-raising luncheon for Arkansas Republican gubernatorial candidate Asa Hutchinson, left, in Springdale, Ark. (AP Photo/Marc F. Henning)


Vice President Dick Cheney gestures Monday, July 24, 2006, during a fund-raising luncheon for Republican gubernatorial candidate Asa Hutchinson's campaign at the Northwest Arkansas Convention Center in Springdale, Ark. Cheney speaking at the fundraiser, said a rapid U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, as sought by some Democrats, would only provoke more attacks by al-Qaida on the United States. Cheney singled out proposals made by Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa. (AP Photo/Marc F. Henning)

[wicket]

1. Cheney, Mr. 5 Deferments, attacking the war hero Murtha

Now that's funny :rofl:

STUPID CHICKENHAWK.

[malaise]

He's swelling like a gun-toting

pig. How I hope he pops.

[shain from kane]

12. After all these years and all of those health problems, he still can't

push himself away from the table.

[Solly Mack]

2. Asa Hutchinson (blech)

There's a rock feeling lonely with Cheney out from under it... course, the rock could be a lot happier without him

[emulatorloo]

13. You say Asa, I say ASS-a -

Let's call the whole thing off. :toast:

[Solly Mack]

15. I chuckled out loud at that

lol Thanks!

:toast: to you!

[hobbit709]

3. Talk about wrapping yourself in the flag!

I wonder if all those flags were made in China.

[Roland99]

4. A Republican Congressman came out the other day saying immediate

withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

What's ol' DICK have to say about that?

[EstimatedProphet]

5. He's having a busy day-must not be anyone around to shoot in the face

[babylonsister]

6. He sounds like a broken record. nt

[rodeodance]

7. He prob. read his notes from the doodles he wrote on Globe article

[AndyA]

8. Northwest Arkansas - that's WAL-MART country. They do love their

Repugs there! Nothing says freedom and democracy better than a bunch of cheap goods sourced from a Communist country.

I find it insulting that Dick Cheney feels it's OK for him to contradict a war hero when he himself got 5 deferments to shirk his responsibility to his country.

In your own words, Cheney, "Fuck yourself."

[Skidmore]

10. Notice he'll never say these things to Murtha's face.

Time for him to return to his bunker. Shudder...that creature is worse than any monster imagined in myth or fiction.

[Demit]

9. I'd love to see that last pose in another context.

"All right, Cheney, come out with yer hands UP!"

[whistle]

11. Cheney's mentor is Michael Ledeen...

...When asked in an interview by Larisa Alexandrovna in early February, 2006 if his enthusiasm for the removal of Saddam Hussein was high, would it not be hypocritical of (Michael Ledeen), to suggest that the removal of a "tool" by its handler is a victory for freedom?

Michael Ledeen responded:

<snip>
You're quite right--and, at least recently, both President Bush and Secretary Rice have explicitly agreed with your point--to say that we have often supported tyrannies. We, along with the whole Western world, shamefully supported Saddam, and convinced ourselves that he was a "new kind of Arab leader," by which was meant a secular socialist, not some crazy religious fanatic as in Iran and not some wild-eyed Arab nationalist as in the case of Nasser . It was obviously a terrible mistake.

<.....>

(But)...I don't think most Iraqis agree with that view. I think any time a tyrant falls, it's good news. And the fact that we previously supported the tyrant doesn't change the nature of the event itself. We had a lousy policy for a long time, but then we did something good. I criticize the lousy policy and also celebrate the fall of Saddam.

Can I say something about how I view human nature? I think it will help at least part of this conversation. I have a pretty dim view of human nature, as I think any serious historian must. Most human activities aren't very pretty, most of the time we screw up, it's rare when you find an exceptional person and even in such cases they often fall from grace.

And I'm not sure Machiavelli was wrong when he said that "man is more inclined to do evil than to do good." So I don't have high expectations, and I consider myself fortunate to have lived and worked at a moment when there were several really exceptional leaders in the world, from Reagan and Thatcher to Pope John Paul II to Havel and Walesa and Mandela and so forth. Those moments are rare, and short-lived. You don't see many outstanding leaders today, in my opinion.

So I'm not surprised when our leaders make mistakes, I'm surprised and delighted when they do great things. I think we should support free societies but I'm not surprised when an American president makes a deal with a dictator. And sometimes there isn't any better choice, by the way. I hate Stalin, but I think the wartime alliance against Hitler was the right thing to do, disgusting though it was.
However, I think that we should have been more vigorous against Stalin and his successors once the war was over, and in retrospect I think the Soviet Empire could have ended earlier.

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http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Conversation_with_Controversial_Neoconservative_0228.html

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

14. This backdrop needs MORE FLAGS