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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:00 PM
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Bill Clinton campaigning for Lieberman, freaked by the progressive revolt:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/07/24/clinton_lieberman/index1.html

A good article explaining why Bill is campaigning for Lieberman. The article points out that, after all, Joe's policies are essentially Hiliary's policies! And, they don't like this rebellion from the progressive community.

Tough!

(You may have to watch a short ad to read the article, about 15 seconds).

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:02 PM
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1. "Joe's policies are essentially Hiliary's policies!" A really unfair
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 05:03 PM by xultar
statement by you.

Clearly Hillary hasn't been french-kissed in the ass buy BushCo.

If so wouldn't they be campaigning for her in NY?
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:24 PM
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12. from my limited understanding
they tend to vote the same, except where it particularly affects NY or CT.

In the biggie votes, they could be twins.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:00 PM
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23. No, Hillary just skips the french-kissing and goes straight to
the butt-smooch sometimes. Sorry, but she just doesn't do it for me.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:02 PM
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24. Menage A Trois?
I stole that from a very prolific DUer!
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:04 PM
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26. That is what the article says...

I am just passing it on.

I don't think Hiliary is as bad as Lieberman. But, I don't like her. She has been horrible on Iraq. She showed no leadership from the beginning on the issue. I am not impressed.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:05 PM
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2. "they don't like this rebellion from the progressive community"
They've never heard from uz before, we were cloistered away, edited out of every mainstream
publication and denied on TV... and the silent majority comes out of the woodwork to haunt
the pre-internet politico's.... progressive revolt my tukus... it is people demanding
their government to tow the line, the people where the buck stops.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:06 PM
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3. Yep. Tough Titties
Either get with the program, or resign yourself to irrelevance...
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Master Mahon Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:29 PM
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13. Re:the people where the buck stops
No, actually it's the people WITH the bucks where it starts and stops.
The rest of us pee-ons don't even factor into the equation.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:32 PM
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15. Its the people who issue the bucks
The covert bit is in the issuance of the paper, not in who holds it once its printed.

THe issuers create the landscape of poverty and wealth by their sectoral creation
of credit in military and petro industries, printed dollars to be spent only in
these sectors, not even the money of the wealthy, but the public credit card,
veiled in layers of federal banking obscurity.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:03 PM
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25. Definetly,
Outside the Beltway! No wonder they don't like Dean..he stirs us up!
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:15 PM
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36. they don't get the internet
Its like dinosaurs wondering about the change of the atmosphere, hmmm, will it kill us?

Like general custer looking out at all those indians, "oops.",

like the japanese who underestimated the barbarity of their US sovereign foe in WW2, "ouch".

Its like batman! :-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:36 PM
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38. Yeah, they're the dinos and we're
the METEORITES! There was a cartoon around here somewhere on just that scenario.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:06 PM
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4. President Clinton could have used his time better than appearing for
this warmonger. Give it up. It ain't goin' to fly.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:12 PM
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7. Bill Clinton and Joe have had a 30+year relationship. You help your
friends when they're in a jam, don't you? :shrug:
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:44 PM
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19. That would depend on the circumstances, in this instance - NO support.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:36 PM
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30. We were supposed to be Joe's "friends" and he repeatedly shat on us all.
He has treated the Democratic base, liberals and progressives with utter contempt while going out of his way to smooch up to, defend and do the bidding of Bushco. Lieberman knows NOTHING about loyalty, yet he expects it from everyone else. He deserves nothing but contempt.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:07 PM
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5. Tweety just showed Clinton in CT charming the crowd; Dodd
is also there, sadly. Let the progressive community be heard loud and clear!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:09 PM
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6. Oh, no kidding! Bill where you been? Progressives don't like the DLC
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 05:14 PM by HereSince1628
and vice versa.

To the poster boy of the DLC it must seem progressives are an uppity bunch of left wing radicals.

On edit: I just remembered where he's been...spending time with Poppy Bush must take you out of circulation a bit.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:13 PM
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8. It actually called her "The Bride of Lieberstein"... LOL!
It was a good article. I still think Bill is way off-base campaigning for Joe, but it's just my opinion.

If we end up dumping Joe, you just watch how fast Hillary triangulates back to the Left... you heard it here first.

TC
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:29 PM
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14. Joe and Bill could do a remake of the rocky horror picture show
Bill clinton could play tim curry's part,
and lieberman could be the boyfriend
and hillary the girl


it makes me shiver with antisa.. "say it" ... :-)
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:51 PM
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21. Pa-tion! Sorry, just had to. n/t
:)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:05 PM
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27. Isn't hillary in the
background in that picture? :)
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:20 PM
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9. Bill did good for our country while he was in office, but I know some
of what went down furthered the rightwing agenda. I'm having a hard time separating either Clinton from Bushco right now. I'll probably get flamed for that, but :shrug: that's the way I feel. The fact that he's campaigning for Joe (kiss * butt) Lieberman AND not understanding the progressive side doesn't sit well with me.

Just saying......
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:23 PM
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10. Me either
He's a far cry from who he was and what he stood for back in '92.

Or maybe he had us completely fooled all along? :shrug:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:21 PM
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28. And shouldn't bill be back
in Harlem, where his offices are being picketed, to try and straighten it out?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1710182
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:24 PM
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11. Once a douchebag, always a douchebag
Never liked Clinton much, aqnd still don't. This is part and parcel of why.
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4nic8em Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:35 PM
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16. Always liked Bill...
Always will, however this "coziness" with Zell, I mean Lieberman, is degrading to his stature.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:43 PM
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18. I agree, Clinton did degrade himself but he will have to live with it.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:41 PM
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17. Progressive revolter here
and proud. Never cared much for Clinton's centric stuff. He played right into the neocons' plans.

The center is merely relative to two points. If the neocons just keep moving the right farther and farther in that direction, what happens to the center?

Bill?

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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:51 PM
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20. me, too
they are just scared spitless that this might actually be a democratic republic, "of the people, by the people, and for the people."
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:57 PM
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22. Gotta give Clinton credit...he sure knows how to turn the other cheek.
First Bush 41, now Joe. Personally, if Joe had stabbed me in the back like he did to Clinton in '98, I'd never return a phonecall to that swarmy, self moralizing bastard.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:12 PM
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35. Bravo! I would never have turned that cheek after being stabbed in the
back. Someone tonight (might have been on Hardball) replayed the clip of Lieberman trashing Clinton on the Senate floor. How could Clinton have forgotten that?
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:31 PM
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29. Didya see this Raw Story post the other day?
Truly amazing! And sorry if someone already posted.

So now it's the centrists vs. the big bad horrible progressive netroots??? I really really don't know what's happening in this country. Just when I thought the Democrats were really making progress.... It's very eye-opening stuff.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysun.com%2Fpf.php%3Fid%3D36497



:wtf:
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:40 PM
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31. I haven't read the article, but...
I was willing to give him a pass on his "indiscretions" when I voted for him the second time. He's never been my favorite liberal, but I gave him a pass.

Anyone who stands for the unjust wars the US has launched is clearly not driven by the same agenda that drives me. That would include, of course, Lieberman, Clinton, and, now, Clinton, just to name a few.

Give me Kucinich, Murtha, and Ron Paul. Being a "liberal" should not be the overarching benchmark.

Oh yeah, and give me Ned Lamont, as well.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:42 PM
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32. Sit down, Bill. If you wanted to stay in the limelight...
...you should've done that talk show deal.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:45 PM
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33. MSNBC Coming Up NOW: Bill Clinton Speaking in CT !!
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 06:47 PM by wordpix2
on Tweety Show. So far, Joe's walked into the hall and hugged Clinton and hung on his coatsleeve. Dodd is there, too, giving Clinton a big smooch.

I think this is live!

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4nic8em Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:24 PM
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37. Also heard Tweety's
remark that Bill will un-endorse Joe if he fails to win the primary and continues his re-election pursuit as an Independent. (endorsing Lamont I presume)
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:08 PM
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34. Thank Gawd CT voters are very very aware

Seems to me they are not letting the pandering affect their great affection for Ned Lamont. This, then, is how it's SUPPOSED to work.

Nedrenaline!

:bounce:
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