debbierlus
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:00 PM
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Bill Clinton campaigning for Lieberman, freaked by the progressive revolt: |
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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/07/24/clinton_lieberman/index1.htmlA good article explaining why Bill is campaigning for Lieberman. The article points out that, after all, Joe's policies are essentially Hiliary's policies! And, they don't like this rebellion from the progressive community. Tough! (You may have to watch a short ad to read the article, about 15 seconds).
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:02 PM
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1. "Joe's policies are essentially Hiliary's policies!" A really unfair |
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Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 05:03 PM by xultar
statement by you.
Clearly Hillary hasn't been french-kissed in the ass buy BushCo.
If so wouldn't they be campaigning for her in NY?
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:24 PM
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12. from my limited understanding |
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they tend to vote the same, except where it particularly affects NY or CT.
In the biggie votes, they could be twins.
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:00 PM
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23. No, Hillary just skips the french-kissing and goes straight to |
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the butt-smooch sometimes. Sorry, but she just doesn't do it for me.
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:02 PM
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I stole that from a very prolific DUer!
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debbierlus
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:04 PM
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26. That is what the article says... |
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I am just passing it on.
I don't think Hiliary is as bad as Lieberman. But, I don't like her. She has been horrible on Iraq. She showed no leadership from the beginning on the issue. I am not impressed.
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:05 PM
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2. "they don't like this rebellion from the progressive community" |
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They've never heard from uz before, we were cloistered away, edited out of every mainstream publication and denied on TV... and the silent majority comes out of the woodwork to haunt the pre-internet politico's.... progressive revolt my tukus... it is people demanding their government to tow the line, the people where the buck stops.
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:06 PM
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Either get with the program, or resign yourself to irrelevance...
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:29 PM
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13. Re:the people where the buck stops |
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No, actually it's the people WITH the bucks where it starts and stops. The rest of us pee-ons don't even factor into the equation.
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:32 PM
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15. Its the people who issue the bucks |
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The covert bit is in the issuance of the paper, not in who holds it once its printed.
THe issuers create the landscape of poverty and wealth by their sectoral creation of credit in military and petro industries, printed dollars to be spent only in these sectors, not even the money of the wealthy, but the public credit card, veiled in layers of federal banking obscurity.
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:03 PM
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Outside the Beltway! No wonder they don't like Dean..he stirs us up!
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Mon Jul-24-06 07:15 PM
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36. they don't get the internet |
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Its like dinosaurs wondering about the change of the atmosphere, hmmm, will it kill us?
Like general custer looking out at all those indians, "oops.",
like the japanese who underestimated the barbarity of their US sovereign foe in WW2, "ouch".
Its like batman! :-)
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Mon Jul-24-06 07:36 PM
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38. Yeah, they're the dinos and we're |
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the METEORITES! There was a cartoon around here somewhere on just that scenario.
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:06 PM
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4. President Clinton could have used his time better than appearing for |
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this warmonger. Give it up. It ain't goin' to fly.
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:12 PM
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7. Bill Clinton and Joe have had a 30+year relationship. You help your |
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friends when they're in a jam, don't you? :shrug:
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:44 PM
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19. That would depend on the circumstances, in this instance - NO support. |
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:36 PM
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30. We were supposed to be Joe's "friends" and he repeatedly shat on us all. |
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He has treated the Democratic base, liberals and progressives with utter contempt while going out of his way to smooch up to, defend and do the bidding of Bushco. Lieberman knows NOTHING about loyalty, yet he expects it from everyone else. He deserves nothing but contempt.
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:07 PM
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5. Tweety just showed Clinton in CT charming the crowd; Dodd |
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is also there, sadly. Let the progressive community be heard loud and clear!
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:09 PM
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6. Oh, no kidding! Bill where you been? Progressives don't like the DLC |
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Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 05:14 PM by HereSince1628
and vice versa.
To the poster boy of the DLC it must seem progressives are an uppity bunch of left wing radicals.
On edit: I just remembered where he's been...spending time with Poppy Bush must take you out of circulation a bit.
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:13 PM
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8. It actually called her "The Bride of Lieberstein"... LOL! |
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It was a good article. I still think Bill is way off-base campaigning for Joe, but it's just my opinion.
If we end up dumping Joe, you just watch how fast Hillary triangulates back to the Left... you heard it here first.
TC
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:29 PM
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14. Joe and Bill could do a remake of the rocky horror picture show |
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Bill clinton could play tim curry's part, and lieberman could be the boyfriend and hillary the girl
it makes me shiver with antisa.. "say it" ... :-)
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:51 PM
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21. Pa-tion! Sorry, just had to. n/t |
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:05 PM
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background in that picture? :)
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:20 PM
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9. Bill did good for our country while he was in office, but I know some |
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of what went down furthered the rightwing agenda. I'm having a hard time separating either Clinton from Bushco right now. I'll probably get flamed for that, but :shrug: that's the way I feel. The fact that he's campaigning for Joe (kiss * butt) Lieberman AND not understanding the progressive side doesn't sit well with me.
Just saying......
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:23 PM
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He's a far cry from who he was and what he stood for back in '92.
Or maybe he had us completely fooled all along? :shrug:
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:21 PM
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28. And shouldn't bill be back |
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:24 PM
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11. Once a douchebag, always a douchebag |
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Never liked Clinton much, aqnd still don't. This is part and parcel of why.
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:35 PM
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Always will, however this "coziness" with Zell, I mean Lieberman, is degrading to his stature.
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:43 PM
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18. I agree, Clinton did degrade himself but he will have to live with it. |
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:41 PM
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17. Progressive revolter here |
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and proud. Never cared much for Clinton's centric stuff. He played right into the neocons' plans.
The center is merely relative to two points. If the neocons just keep moving the right farther and farther in that direction, what happens to the center?
Bill?
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:51 PM
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they are just scared spitless that this might actually be a democratic republic, "of the people, by the people, and for the people."
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Mon Jul-24-06 05:57 PM
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22. Gotta give Clinton credit...he sure knows how to turn the other cheek. |
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First Bush 41, now Joe. Personally, if Joe had stabbed me in the back like he did to Clinton in '98, I'd never return a phonecall to that swarmy, self moralizing bastard.
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Mon Jul-24-06 07:12 PM
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35. Bravo! I would never have turned that cheek after being stabbed in the |
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back. Someone tonight (might have been on Hardball) replayed the clip of Lieberman trashing Clinton on the Senate floor. How could Clinton have forgotten that?
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:31 PM
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29. Didya see this Raw Story post the other day? |
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Truly amazing! And sorry if someone already posted. So now it's the centrists vs. the big bad horrible progressive netroots??? I really really don't know what's happening in this country. Just when I thought the Democrats were really making progress.... It's very eye-opening stuff. http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysun.com%2Fpf.php%3Fid%3D36497:wtf:
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:40 PM
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31. I haven't read the article, but... |
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I was willing to give him a pass on his "indiscretions" when I voted for him the second time. He's never been my favorite liberal, but I gave him a pass.
Anyone who stands for the unjust wars the US has launched is clearly not driven by the same agenda that drives me. That would include, of course, Lieberman, Clinton, and, now, Clinton, just to name a few.
Give me Kucinich, Murtha, and Ron Paul. Being a "liberal" should not be the overarching benchmark.
Oh yeah, and give me Ned Lamont, as well.
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:42 PM
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32. Sit down, Bill. If you wanted to stay in the limelight... |
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...you should've done that talk show deal.
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Mon Jul-24-06 06:45 PM
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33. MSNBC Coming Up NOW: Bill Clinton Speaking in CT !! |
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Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 06:47 PM by wordpix2
on Tweety Show. So far, Joe's walked into the hall and hugged Clinton and hung on his coatsleeve. Dodd is there, too, giving Clinton a big smooch.
I think this is live!
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Mon Jul-24-06 07:24 PM
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remark that Bill will un-endorse Joe if he fails to win the primary and continues his re-election pursuit as an Independent. (endorsing Lamont I presume)
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Mon Jul-24-06 07:08 PM
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34. Thank Gawd CT voters are very very aware |
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Seems to me they are not letting the pandering affect their great affection for Ned Lamont. This, then, is how it's SUPPOSED to work.
Nedrenaline!
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