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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:55 AM
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Tweety on Imus: "We need a stronger and smarter president next time".
That's a quote I remember. The enitre several minutes-long, breathless diatribe today on Imus, I can't.

In summary, Tweety blasted B*sh on Imus this morning. Say what you will about Tweety, his analysis was dead-on, harsh and reality-based... I can't do it justice but would love to hear it again (link, anyone?)

Tweety savaged B*sh's lack of knowledge, capability and reliance on ideology rather than an understanding of history and the mistakes that he is repeating now, that any student of history would know not to do. He said he shouldn't be going to Rove to find out what to do, he should be going to the history books. He said Americans always vote to corrrect the mistakes of the previous president... he rattled off a series, and then said after Clinton, the American people voted in a guy who goes to bed with his wife at 9:30 and that's what they were looking for. He repeated, Amercians wanted a guy who went to bed with his wife at 9:30. (That's when he said next time we need a "stronger and smarter president").

He said that every single president up until B*sh managed the 2 critical aspects of Israel/Palestine conflict. One was to be an ally of Israel (we are), and the next was to be an hosnest broker in the ME (we aren't) and that is a great failure of the B*sh admin. He said we should absolutely be talking to Syria- you don't need to talk to just your friends because they are already your friends- you need to talk to the other sides in a conflict. He said this president believes in attack, invade instead of diplomacy as a foreign policy.

He went on and on, saying that the problem was that B*sh came in with no particular governing prinicples or policy ideas, that he completely abosrobed the neoconservative ideology of the people he surrounded himself with, that they governed by ideology not by the lessons of history. He said he didn't know whether B*sh was a nesoconservative when he came in, that he held no particular beliefs. Without using the words "stupid", "ignorant" or "ignoramus", Tweety painted that picture.

It is rare and startling to hear truth to power in the MSM, so say what you will about Tweety, this was great. I hope it's contagious.

If I wasn't precise in these recollections, or left anything out, please post.

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:56 AM
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1. Dah.....
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:56 AM
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2. are you sure it wasn't a pod person? still, if it was him, nice of him to
finally say something intelligent.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:58 AM
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3. I heard also that Tweety was bashing Bush on his show last night--along
with Buchanan.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:25 AM
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22. Why don't we start calling a Spade a Spade?
If anyone believes that George W. Bush is handling the reins of POTUS and that includes all the talking whores who proclaim to have knowledge on everything from stem-cell research to Hezzbulah.

Tweety and his brethren, have finally realized that the 30% support for George is never going to increase, that it will only drop as more and more Americans finally realize that whatever this group of thugs call themselves, they are our own personal terrorists. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove, Pearle, Hughes, Negroponte, Bolton, etc., etc., etc. Each and everyone of them should be charged with treason and punished accordingly.

It doesn't take to much smarts to comprehend that George W. Bush is not running the show and whoever instructs him on his acting and speech lessons have failed miserably.

The Mathews and Russet realize that they are in deep doo-doo if they attempt to stay-the-course with their WH scripted interviews. They have made their fortunes along with the War Profiteers and they will do whatever it takes to hang on to it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:01 AM
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4. OH REALLY?!
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 09:03 AM by zidzi
You Big Fuck, tweety! You and your ilk helped make it possible for a coup to happen and be accepted AND now you're having buyers and sellers REMORSE?!

Jeeze, what did it take? What was the straw that broke your camel's back? Or was it a complilation of idiotic moves since the "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"?

Edit~ Btw, that's a really good synopsis, npincus! Thanks!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:15 AM
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13. He thinks Rudy is the solution now. He actually believes that Rudy
won't be owned by the same people running bush. What a silly ass!!! I predict that by the time the presidential primary season rolls around, Tweety will indeed realize that both Rudy and McCain will continue to be owned by the NeoCons and geton the draft Gore bandwagon.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:21 AM
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18. No, he won't realize that about Rudy/McCain
I'd take that bet.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:45 AM
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29. We'll check later and see if tweety has it in him. If he can finally
admit that bush is a loser because bush himself is just a puppet for the neocons, hopefully he'll be smart enough to pick up the same signs with Rudy and McCain. He already seems to have McCain's number. Rudy has been keeping a low profile. But the reason he has McCain's number is because McCain has been obvious in his overtures to the religious right and NeoCons. In order for Rudy run a successful campaign, he too will have to kiss the pinky ring of Jerry Falwell and the NeoCons. Imagine Tweety's chagrin when THAT happens. :popcorn:
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:20 AM
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41. "kiss the pinky ring of Jerry Falwell . . ."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:56 PM
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70. Tweety is getting paid big money to do as he's told
He supports the corporate GOP agenda and repeats whatever they want him to repeat.

The GOP plan is to distance themselves from Bush, since he can't be re-elected, and name new GOP leaders as "reform" candidates who will clean up their own party. Nevermind the complete lack of checks and balances in government as the GOP has a stranglehold everything. They expect Americans to believe they can reform themselves.

Tweety receives a great deal of money in honoraria to speak at GOP and corporate events. He's not about to jump off the gravy train.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:39 AM
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27. Rudy is a "shoot first and ask questions later" guy
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 09:39 AM by npincus
exactly what we DON'T need (understatement)... but the MSM will kiss his ass like there's no tomorrow, and 9-11 and terror-politics will poison the next presidential political season.

I hope to G-d, he doesn't run. The St. Rudy of 9-11 Roadshow is so lucrative (ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching) that I don't know if he would want to give that all up. And he's smart enough to know that a political contest could taint that very profitable halo about his noggin.... so I am hoping that greed for $$$ will overpower his insatiable ego.

Myth rules the day.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:49 AM
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32. Giuliani agrees with Bush on everything about his wars - and said so many
times. Does Tweety not BELIEVE Rudy's gushing over Bush's decisions?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:50 AM
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35. Right. But it's easy to gush over Rudy because Rudy is keeping a
low profile. I wish he would have Rudy on his show as a guest and get him on record.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #13
45. Rudy? Nah I'm thinking JEB n/t
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:59 AM
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50. Think whatever you want but the FACT is, Tweety has made it
abundantly aware that he endorses Rudy and not does he think Rudy will win the Repuke primary but the office too.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:41 AM
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48. Wait til the American people get a load of Rudy's married life
If they didn't like Clinton, they're going to be puking over that hypocrite.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:53 AM
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55. Not a chance.
Tweety is too timid and cowardly to make such a stand. (i.e. pro-Dem, and especially pro-Gore) The people of the country will have to speak out before the TV pundits fall in line.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #55
57. Yeah, I know. That's giving him way too much credit...
that he hasn't earned.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:19 AM
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16. I think the, "We're sending humanitarion aid to Lebanon, and bombs
to Israel so they can keep bombing Lebanon," is the camel that broke his and Buchannan's backs. How much more evidence do you need that bush is a warmongering, liar!
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:39 AM
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28. Can't have buyer's remorse if you were the purchased whore.
Tweety and the other media whores got what they wanted out of this President: Tax breaks and continued access to the liar's den.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:15 AM
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53. Maybe he saw some pictures of the children
caught in these war zones?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:41 PM
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64. I never watch Tweety anymore
but from what I can glean from DU, his "change of heart" (always remembering that he could change back at any moment) began when he saw the idiot in chief chewing with his mouth full. That seems to be the kind of thing that would affect the image conscious tweets. He loooooved the image of his hero on the flight deck and was mortified when he saw him as he really is : crass, ill mannered, and stupid beyond belief.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:41 PM
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84. That is one interesting thought!
bush and blair uncut!

Would a really cool guy chew with his mouth open and talk "shit"?
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:02 AM
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5. Nice.
Too bad poor-boy Imus doesn't spring for transcripts.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:07 AM
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7. Maybe Crooks and Liars or
MediaMatters will have it..some of the rare truth in the corporate world?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:03 PM
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76. Crooks and Liars does have it.
"Matthews: It’s all ideology with this crowd. All they care about is ideology. The President bought it, hook, line and sinker, he had– but you know, it was just put into his head, sometime after 9-11, and his philosophy is what he has given it. He didn’t have to have any philosophy when he went in, and they handed it to him. These guys– the guys–you know, the guys that you used to make fun of at school, pencil necks, the intellectuals, the guys you never trusted. All of the sudden he trusts the intellectuals, the guys you knew at school, yeah, they’re a bunch of pencil necks and now he buys completely, their ideology, because he didn’t have one of his own coming in. That was his problem. I don’t know what Bush stood for, except I’m a cool guy and Gore isn’t, and that was our problem. We elected the guy because he was a little cooler than the other guy, and, I hope the next election, it isn’t a problem of who goes to bed with their wife at 9:30 at night, or who knows how to tell a joke on a stage. But it’s who had the sense of strength that comes from having read books, most of their life, tried to understand history..."

http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/25/matthews-on-imus-pencil-neck-foreign-policy/
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:38 PM
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83. Thanks, Burt! And
bush can't even "tell a joke on a stage" but he does like to go to bed early..must be from all that bike riding and golf strokes.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:04 AM
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6. You mean "noble sunnyness" and "sublime manhood" are not enough?
Gosh, Tweets, what happened?
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:08 AM
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8. Apparently, Tweety wanted a guy who went to bed with his wife at 9:30
because he voted for him.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:01 PM
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73. What? "Towel-snapping" frat boy BS doesn't fly with Tweety anymore?
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:09 AM
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9. Great thing about Tweety....
If you don`t like what he says about Bush today, wait a day or two and he`ll be on the other side.

He should hang his head in shame for his pre-invasion cheerleading, his insufferable flag-waving and his almost obscene frothing over machismo.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:14 AM
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11. Absolutely! Tweety has more faces than a deck of cards. nt
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 09:14 AM by goclark
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:15 AM
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14. He's the fugging joker n/t
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:15 AM
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12. Yeah Tweety is a real straight shooter when...
he's trying to escape a sinking ship. Otherwise his head is so far up the admin's ass that his shoulders are brown.

Even the most died in the wool repug power brokers smell the fire that's burning now though and most are ducking and covering. Bush bounces 5 points in the poll and Matthews will start singing his praises again like a tent revivalist.

Guess Tweety does give us one benefit...he's a hell of a windsock.

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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:11 AM
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37. windsock--perfect description!!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:21 AM
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19. Tweety once uttered "we might find B*sh's face on Mount Rushmore..."
if his Iraq adventure is successful. I almost threw up.

Yes, I agree w/the bashers- everybody's right about his consistency problem. And, all MSM are propaganda tools and accomplices in the bloody crime of Iraq.

However, if Tweety has had an epiphany of sorts, about B*sh, and speaks this kind of truth with some consistency, he may persuade enough dumbasses out there (the 37% according to Gallup who approve of B*sh) and be helpful to our side. My glass is half full, you might say.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:33 AM
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46. LOL! He'll be back on (R)etreat again soon!
Seems every time he speaks in this way, he goes somewhere for a few days and comes back with a renewed sense of 'awe' for Cons and Bushetals.

He also seems to be more ummm....critical when he's not on Hardball or CM Show. But during his own shows, he drools over Cons and bares his teeth over Democrats.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:11 PM
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58. As soon as * slips into his jeans
Tweety will swoon over him once again. :loveya:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:11 AM
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10. Excellent summary ~ I only caught the end ~ it is a video MUST!


Tweety bashed Joey and called him " A HAWK" and Imus got pissed!
Imus LOOOOVES Joey because he contributes to his causes and Imus took Tweety on!

Later in the show he said that Tweety must have been on meds to say some of those things about the Joey and about the WARS in the ME.

IMUS said something about not caring about those "head wrap" people and that Tweety needed to take a very long vacation.

I could not believe my ears!

Only the guy with the bald head defended Tweety a bit. He said, "Chris was saying what many are thinking but are afraid to say." I was in SHOCK!
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:18 AM
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15. kind of reminds me of that supposed R candidate who won't go on the record
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2411355

really truthful when no one is listening. will he have the spine to repeat this on his own show?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:21 AM
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17. He must have finally consulted a doctor
over his erection that lasted more than 4 years. }(
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:24 AM
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21. LOL nt
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:27 AM
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23. LOL
too bad the same adulation did not work that magic on Viagra-Boy (a.k.a. Rush "Limp-balls")
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:53 PM
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69. ROFL
Brilliant!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:23 AM
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20. Oh please, I don't trust Tweety for one second . . .
For every reasonable remark he makes about how awful Bush and the pukes are, he'll say 10 critical things about the dems.

And just wait until we get closer to the November mid-terms. We'll hear nothing but how the GOP will retain control of congress.

It's the reason I can't watch Hardball anymore.


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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:31 AM
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24. I think we need to contact.....
the ol' Tweety bird and thank him. He will stay on tack if he thinks it's in his favor, i.e. popularity and ratings. We definitely need any help we can get on MSM outlets.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:20 AM
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40. You are right~ it's all about ratings and under the table $$'s for Tweety

and all the rest of those whores.....Imus, Russet etc.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:31 AM
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25. WE knew this is 2000. Why didn't Tweety?
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 09:41 AM by UTUSN
Tweety has been homoerotically gushing over Shrub from 2000 up through a few months ago, and still does at times. He was SAVAGE on GORE 5 days a week throughout Campaign 2000. He has been basically a political operative for Shrub. Even if Tweety were to perform a COMPLETE brainwashing operation on himself---psychologically, religiously, whatever------he is PERMANENTLY on my shit list (like my personal shit list really matters).

P.S. the o.p. asked for additions. Tweety said that "we voted for the guy who was COOL. We need to vote for somebody who has READ A BOOK, THOUGHT about things..." I repeat, WE here did NOT do the first part and DID do the 2nd part back then.

And as for the line of argument that pops up regularly that we need to stroke Tweety when he's good, that we need to THANK him, that we need to be POLITE to him in our e-mails: Politeness only works for recipients who are thoroughly sincere. Jerks like Tweety are not persuaded or converted by us, only persuaded by other jerk wingnuts who THINK they are "smart" or "in" or "cool". Tweety sees a polite, bleeding heart Lib letter and thinks: "SUCKER!!1"
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:47 AM
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30. In 2000, "GE" Jack Welch told him and everybody else connected
to NBC news what to think.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:36 AM
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26. DOH! Where's he been for the last six years?







He hasn't been paying attention.




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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:48 AM
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31. "Who would you rather have a beer with?"
That was the question Tweety would ask over and over again during the 2000 and 2004 presidential run.

I remember getting so pissed with him because I have plenty of people I can go have a beer with, but I want my president smarter than me.

So listening to him go on and on about what this country needs now is a president who is smart and knowledgable on history is mute with me. He made fun of Al Gore for months, because of how smart he was and a policy wonk. He made Bush acceptable to the public, "A guy you can go have a beer with".

Very nice recap of what was said this morning on Imus.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:49 AM
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33. Matthews was really spewing it out
Is there a video for others to watch?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:50 AM
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34. A mentally challenged cabbage would be smarter than Bush.
What we don't need is a "stronger" president of any stripe.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:00 AM
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36. How's THIS for a polite e-ltr to Tweety? (sent)
I know that MATTHEWS stopped being a Democratic party operative sometime around 1988, when Hardball-the-book was published and he began his trek towards RAYGUN-worship and back to his original family roots, the "cloth coat" Republicanism he now espouses.

Yet, as a Dem, I take NO comfort from his negative comments on Shrub today that "we" voted for the dude who was "cool" and that we need to vote for somebody who reads books and thinks.

We Dems KNEW this in 2000. Why didn't Chris? Five days per week during Campaign 2000, he SAVAGED Gore, and from then up through a few months ago he has continued to gush over Shrub, called him CHURCHILL, drooled over the flight suit and the jeans, and despite some stray negative comments continues to do so and probably always will.

And MATTHEWS has always, even in today's comments, regarded Shrub as having actually WON the votes.

MATTHEWS has done political operative DAMAGE to the Dem candidates for six years, although mitigated by his small ratings. I've said it often to my internet discussion board fellow Dems: The wingnuts don't trust MATTHEWS. They are willing to USE him and label him as a Dem spokesman (when they KNOW he's not), but they don't trust him. Why should WE (Dems)?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:17 AM
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38. Bu*h must have found another cabin boy. n/t
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:17 AM
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39. Guiliani??!!
No.
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:21 AM
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42. So, It's Not About "Likability" Any More?
Chris Matthews can't rip Bu$h without ripping into himself also. Because Matthews(and the rest of the skank whore mmedia) are the ones who said that competence did not matter in 2000. They are the ones who sold Bu$h as "the guy you want to have a beer with".

And, six years later, Chris Matthews thinks that Bu$h isn't smart enough. Well, too little and far too late.

Chris Matthews, you can bend down and kiss my sweet little ass.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:29 AM
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43. problem is, he's talking about McCain
he added, "our next president has to be dreamier than Bush too."
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:34 AM
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47. He's been campaigning for Rudy since November 3, 2004 n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:56 AM
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56. Very astute observation n/t
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:30 AM
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44. after Clinton
It seems to me the American people actually wanted someone smart to be president. After Clinton the American people voted in Al Gore... it's the Neocons on the court that thought a guy who can goto bed early when the nation is facing a disaster was important. It seems to me the American people actually wanted someone smart to be president.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:44 AM
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49. "We're all neocons now"
Anyone remember Tweety gushing after Baghdad 'fell'?

"Sunny nobility"...anyone remember Tweety gushing over King Idiot and his codpiece?

NOW, after the world has gone to hell in a handbasket, he admits the truth?

FUCK TWEETY
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:10 AM
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51. Can you say "Job Security"?? Tweety can read the handwriting on the wall
Even Tweety can see the likely outcome of the coming midterm elections, and the coming outrage once the American people learn what this Administration has done, not only to them but in their names.

Not going to be much use for a Bush/Neocon/Repub apologist once those Congressional subpoenoes start flying out of the House of Representatives and their investigative committees once Democrats take over the majority. If both houses of Congress go Democrat, Bush may never finish his term of office.

Tweety knows what he has done to enable this Administration, and he knows people are going to hold MSM pundits responsible for their part of this debacle.

Sorry, but I believe this sudden attack of insight, intelligence and conscience is grounded more in protecting his own behind than performing his duty as a member of the press. It is about Job Security.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:51 AM
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54. I too believe Matthews is suffering from job anxiety.
He was so hyper on Imus that I almost felt compassion for him

He is afraid to take time off because so much is happening, and

his rambling became almost frantic

Imus remarked later that Chris needs to just go sit and vacation,

because his presence wouldn't make an iota of difference on the outcome of

events.


Matthews is truly delusional of his own importance.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:13 AM
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52. Whoa, quite a turn-around
but too little a bit late?
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:14 PM
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59. Everybody sort of likes the * except for the real whack-jobs"
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 12:15 PM by otohara
MATTHEWS: I like him. Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs, maybe on the left -- I mean -- like him personally
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TrueFunkSoldier Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:24 PM
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61. We tried to tell your dumb ass this SIX years ago!
What really burns me up about this whole administration and the sheeple that follow it is the fact that so many Americans were duped, too preoccupied with Clinton's dick and Gore's "rigidity" that they would be willing to support a total loser fuck up because "he seems like the kind of person you'd want to have beer with." Now look at the mess we're in--and all because people wanted to have a freakin' beer. This is preposterous.

We have become a nation of low expectations for our so-called leaders. And think of the irony and subtle racism of that! If Bush, A.K.A. Lil' Dumbya, were a black person or female, most people wouldn't tolerate the utter stupidity, the total incompetence and disregard for human life. Everyone would be screaming that it reaks of affirmative action!!

Why is it o.k. that we have so little expectations for Lil' Dumbya that even if he does the smallest thing right--i.e., standing in the rubble of the trade towers after 911 (something that ANY president would do)--he gets a pat on the back and becomes media darling? It just makes me sick.

I was never fooled by The Liar & Thief. It's simply astonishing that so many Americans fell for it; that is, if you assume that the 2000 and 2004 elections were NOT stolen.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:32 PM
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62. He will still continue to refer to us as whack jobs. But for himself
and the other late comers it'll be "different." Though WE KNOW, the only thing that's different is that we could see right through the Kare Rove machine from day one.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:22 PM
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60. "americans like a physical guy - women like a physical guy
not alot of nuance"

Of course, that was back when the mission was accomplished.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:35 PM
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63. If we had a stronger and smarter press, we'd have a stronger and smarter
president.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:50 PM
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67. Bingo
We have a winner!:) Someone should e-mail that line to tweets.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:36 PM
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91. well put and well said!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:43 PM
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65. Here's a message for Tweedy and the rest of the Bush enablers.
STFU! You swooned over Bush's flight suit photo-op. Now you want to advise us on who should lead this country in 2008. Thanks but no thanks. Your judgment sucks and we don't need your opinions. If you love Rudy and Crazy John so much then send them flowers and chocolates and keep it to your self.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:44 PM
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66. Media only likes leaders who are dumber than them
That's why they hated Clinton so much - he was far more intelligent than most of the news media. His policies and ideas were so advanced they felt intimidated and couldn't manipulate him.

No doubt the same standards will apply for 2008 - the MSM will only back candidates they think can be manipulated.
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:59 PM
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87. I buy that to an extent
but remember back a few years ago Bush was touted as the guy who doesn't listen to the media.Remember..." He doesnt read them there noospapurss and he dont care what non one thinks...he's doing it for Amurka."

Someone was full of shit.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:52 PM
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68. But, but...Bush glimmers with sunny nobility!!!
Sounds like Tweety's man-crush is on the rocks.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:44 PM
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71. why does he blow him so often on the show then.
Bush is in Tweetys mouth almost as much as he is in Jeff Gannons.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:51 PM
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72. video on Crooks and Liars
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:01 PM
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74. thanks
I'll check it out.

:)
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:01 PM
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75. We also need...
a stronger and smarter Press next time.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:03 PM
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77. and Tweety did all he could do to elect him in '00 and '04
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:48 PM
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78. Tweety CLAIMED to be tentative about * in '04, BUT! - -
After it was discovered that rat-boy, Ben Ginsburg was a lawyer for both bush-cheney and the swift boat liars, rat-boy quit the bush cheney team. I never did find out whether he quit the swift boat liars too,(I don't believe he did) but Ginsburg became an election analyst for MSNBC, and appeared regulary with Chris Matthews. So it's very much a stretch for Tweety to suddenly offer some moral outrage. I'd like to remind him about cynically hiring rat-boy Ginsburg as a campaigh analyst.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:55 PM
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79. I heard Matthews say that he only voted for Bush once
I'm guessing it was in 2000, not 2004.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:04 PM
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88. that may be but I think he pimped for Bush on his show in '04 and
took every opportunity to cut Kerry down.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:07 PM
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80. This hypocritical asshole..
he was boosting him up before and after the war. His favorite talking point was he is some one you want to have a beer with. Now that his republicon buddies have shifted and the kool-aid drinkers are opening their eyes he wants to criticize and analyze bushit. These bastards are scared now they care more about their party then this country. Now he's trying to pick Guliani for the next fuck up!
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:12 PM
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81. he and others like him are trying to separate Bush from Bush's policies
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 03:13 PM by jsamuel
However, Bush did not fail simply because he is Bush. He failed because his policies are doomed to fail.

Matthews... there should not be a "next time" and if there is, it will fail as well, because the policy of Suicide Anti-Terrorism always fails.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:19 PM
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82. This is the same guy who called anyone who doesn't like Smirkalicious
"wackos?"

You know, when I make a big mistake, which is only occasionally, I admit it, either to the subject or if it is serious enough, in print, as a retraction or correction or even abject apology. These guys NEVER say they're sorry. If they're totally wrong about something, and it becomes obvious, they just move on as if they had never said it in the first place.

How many NYT reporters have apologized for their bogus WMD stories? How many have apologized for calling anti-war protestors "uninformed and wrong-headed?" I could go on and on, but they never fucking apologize and admit they were ever wrong about anything.

When Little Lord Pissy Pants was asked to name just ONE mistake he had EVER made, he couldn't think of one. These people are morally diseased.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:48 PM
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85. What reporters have apologized to the anti-war protesters???
I sure as hell missed it. I've seen a couple of forums on CSPAN where MSM discussed their failure to scratch beneath the surface in the lead up in the war. Everything I've seen, they BLAMED US. They claimed it was the fault of the American people for not asking the questions. :crazy:
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:52 PM
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86. What, no "sunny nobility" for Bush today from Tweets?
How could you call someone you think is a complete idiot "noble" like Tweety did?
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:22 PM
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89. is tweety swinging the other way again ?
he'll swing back to bush. tweety can't resist him.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:34 PM
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90. No, we need a stronger & smarter president NOW!
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:32 AM
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92. audio available
Hold your nose...and try to disregard Hewitt's comments

http://www.townhall.com/TalkRadio/Show.aspx?RadioShowId=5&ContentGuid=16b7ae5e-0ba9-4c82-8f6f-9ffcfc556a97&trackbacks=true&mode=1#commentAnchor



Matthews: "Clinton did a pretty good job."

Matthews mentioned the 1 million people in Iran showing support for US after 9/11
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