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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:54 AM
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Israel is "Bought and Paid For" ---Billion + Billions adds to U.S. CONTROL
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 10:06 AM by Sensitivity
Most of the world sees it that way. Israeli bombs are U.S. bombs. When Israel kills women and children, it is the U.S. that is killing women and children.
Many Americans don't see this because they have no idea of the extent of the power of the U.S. Israeli lobby on both U.S. and Israeli policy



In any given year the extent of support for Israel fluctuated based in part on special request by the Israeli goverment
for support for specific military or development policies. This support often comes in the form of "loan guarantees" that have the effect of a grant. Certainly in some year the combination of aid and loan guarantees gets as high as $10 billion though this rarely highlighted in the U.S. press.

The extent of U.S. financial support to Israel is hard to measure because of the miriad of ways
in which aid flows which are outside of the regular foreign-aid budget. While wrapped in the form of DOD, DOE contracts,
and loan guarantees that allow Israel to acquire vast funds indirectly, these means of support amount to the same thing --
dollars into the Israeli economy that allows enormous policy flexiblity.
Israel does not have to behave like any other small country would be expected to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

Economist tallies swelling cost of Israel to US
By David R. Francis | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If divided by today's population, that is more than $5,700 per person.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=150244




Last updated at: (Beijing Time) Wednesday, December 18, 2002
Israel Asks US for 10 Billion Dollars in Financial Support

Israel has asked the United States for 4 billion US dollars in aid and an additional 6 billion dollars in loan guarantees, Israel Radio reported on Tuesday.

http://english.people.com.cn/200212/18/eng20021218_108666.shtml

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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:59 AM
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1. State sponsored terror? Why don't all the MSM run to cover the fact
that all Israeli bombs were made in the U.S.A. as they do to bombs launched by Hizbollah saying they are made with Syrian and Iranian materials?
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:03 AM
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4. not all of them are
israel manufactures its own weaponry as well as what it buys from the US.

also hizbollah is a terror organization, israel isnt.

big difference.

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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:15 AM
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9. Israel is a terrorist state, not a terrorist organization.
Semantics is the only difference.

And Israel pays for most of its home grown manufacture with US dollars.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:19 AM
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10. Israel and the USA are the most powerful TERRORIST nations ...
They (USA and Israel) have unleashed TERROR (killing of civilians) in higher does (#s) than Hamas and Hezbollah combined.

Bullshit! I lived through Vietnam. The label "terrorist" only served to designate what the USA and Israeli leadership deem THEIR enemies.

I'm not buying this total arrogance. Even the mighty USA and Israel will eventually be forced to negotiate with THEIR ENEMIES, a.k.a. whom they refer to as terrorists.

Wake up! The only people who are buying this propaganda are the USA and Israeli people, the rest of the World watches on with horror and increased HATE for our lack of restraint.

It's disgusting. WE (USA and Israel) are supposed to be THE MATURE ADULT. We are acting like "The Mother of Sybil." :puke: :thumbsdown:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:01 AM
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2. Gee, when you consider what Israel is doing now
that is, stirring up tensions with Iran and Syria, leading to what may result in a US war with either or both countries,

and then you consider what BushCo and the PNAC's goals were all along,


this is the kind of thing that makes you go....



Hmmmmm.... nothing to see here. Move along.

Hey, is that a flag burning Amendment????
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:05 AM
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5. Mutual intereests.
It's that simple.

The U.S. wants the terror groups out of that region as much as Israel does. Both benefit.

Complex issue though.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:07 AM
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6. Your government is the terror group, not very complex
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:09 AM
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7. So you also belive that the US is encouraging Israel's agression?
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:25 PM
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15. As long as no UN "Observes" the massacres, is "OK"
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:03 AM
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3. not only that we are sending them special bombs to test out
for us--on their way.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:36 AM
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13. Which weapons? The GBU-28/BLU-113/BLU-122 are fully tested and deployed
Do you have anything to back that up or is that just hyperbole?

Note that special weapons normally means nuclear devices.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:13 AM
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8. I thought that people were exaggerating about Israeli's influence
until I observed the Congress and Senate overwhelmingly line up behind the Aggressive Warfare Israel is unleashing on the Lebanese People.

Seeing that vote was a moment of Epiphany for me and my friends who have ZERO ties to the Middle East nor their two dominant religions (Muslim and Judaism).

Many of us liberal Christian (still practicing but not devout) watch on in horror as the Israeli Army kills indiscriminately and even "so called liberals" in our Congress cheer on "Atta boys!"

I'm sickened at another super power military destroying an entire nation.

I thought that I couldn't be more ashamed of my Country but I cry each day over the continued death and destruction Israel is doing within the country of Lebanon. Israel has the $$$ to rebuild and rise from the ashes, the Lebanese do NOT. :cry:
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:46 AM
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11. Israel is the "3rd rail" of U.S. politics -- touch it and you die.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:49 AM
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12. What do we get out of it? is the question that increasingly comes to
mind.

The irony is, to the fundies and freepers, they should be wanting to defend Lebanon, which is about 40% Christian. With their their ethnic type view of Christianity, you'd think that protecting northern Lebanon would be so much more important.

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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:05 PM
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14. In the case of Hezbollah, U.S. goal has been to destroy it for some time.
There success in the elections was a potential threat to U.S. plans for Lebanon.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:28 PM
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16. It doesn't matter
if the US does the killing itself or its paid henchmen do it...end result is innocent blood being spilled that is in our name.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:30 PM
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17. Did you know, US has built HUGE military base in Israel?
I mean, it is fucking HUGE!!! I seen the photos of it the other day and it will be completed by Aug! I don't know, if anyone eles even knows about this.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:37 PM
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18. Israeli Military is intertwined with the U.S. Military in many ways --
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 07:37 PM by Sensitivity
Really an extention of U.S. military power and used widely in training operations for the U.S.
around the world.
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