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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:20 PM
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Am I just overreacting or is our government really this bad?
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 09:21 PM by Maestro
I am not a particularly smart person. I am what I would call of average intelligence and I think that there are plenty more like me, but if there are, why are they not as upset as I am about what is occurring nowadays?

I might split this up over the next few days because I am have many issues with the current state of our nation. I'll start with the economy.


Attacking the middle class is the republican mantra that is spoken in their cigar smoke filled back rooms. The tax cuts only help the rich. We have heard this before and it is true. I did pay less in taxes but the other cuts didn't benefit me at all as far as I can tell.
Republicans do not care for middle class. Bush is bad for the economy, period. He apparently wants to “stay the course” even though the plan is severely flawed and his tax cuts a bust. More than half of the 2004 deficit was on account of the tax cuts. He has just destroyed the fiscal health of the nation in three years. Of course he relies on 9-11 and terror as an excuse. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2002006779_williams17.html

Anyhow, the middle class is hit hard as you can see by this article. Even worse is how badly black men have been affected. He did try to make amends by speaking at the NAACP conference finally. Way to go George. It took you long enough.

What about Hispanics? As of 2004 after three years of poor job creation, more jobs began to be created for Latinos but with lower wages. Again, it goes back to the attack on the middle class and wages. http://pewhispanic.org/reports/report.php?ReportID=45

Let’s look at the pesky minimum wage. When you account for inflation it is the lowest in 50 years! Some say 60 years. (see link below) But yet, the rethug bozos won't raise it.


Read the press release here. I suppose that the do-nothing Congress and rethugs want to leave that to the states. Why would they want to try to help us?

What is more disgusting is that the do-nothing Congress gives itself raise after raise even though the US is saddled with the largest national debt ever and no minimum wage increase.
Here is a good Helen Thomas article about it along with a good one by the AFL-CIO and a few others.
Helen smack down

http://blog.aflcio.org/?p=102

Who cares about the debt

http://senssensibilityr.gnn.tv/headlines/9581/Congress_kills_minimum_wage_raise_gives_itself_a_raise Even Lou Dobbs doesn’t like it.

It really leaves me speechless. I have nothing more to add.

Environment and energy

Bush and his boot lickers say he has a plan. He is pushing for more nuclear energy because it is safer now. From what I have read in the Environment/Energy group this might be true but I have not seen him really promote it and it certainly has not translated in lower costs for me. In fact, in Texas, the only thing I have heard about is all the new coal plants that TXU plans on building. Coal? Yes coal, but apparently now it is clean. Ugh! Seriously. And there is a nuclear plant about two hours from me in Comanche, Texas. In fact, it is called Comanche Peak, but I hear nothing special coming from there. I only hear about coal.

http://texas.sierraclub.org/press/newsreleases/20060421.asp

Texas was just identified as the place in the US that is producing the most wind energy. Why can’t the pretzelnut put more money in this? It would lessen our dependence on at least one fossil burning fuel.

Harness the wind in Texas President Morans.

The article at the end states that in order for wind energy to become a conventional source of energy it will need federal help. That is not happening right now because the government is too busy subsidizing oil even though it is pulling down record profits. We are dooming ourselves.

Big Oil and Texas and preznit cowboy have a long history together. For that matter so does preznit cowboy and the energy industry. One of his good buds helped gouge customers in California and then promote deregulation here in Texas. Y’know who? You guessed it. Enron and Ken Lay. But they were just acquaintances, riiiiiiggggghhhhtttt. :eyes:
Connections

All I know is, we have to do something to stop the wild speculating on oil and we have to disassociate ourselves from Big Oil because fuel prices are outrageous. Furthermore, car companies executives are not really helping things as they continue to churn out things like the Hummer. Of course the H3s have replaced the H2s but that doesn't matter. H2 and H3 still get the finger.

While I am not particularly a fan of Thomas Friedman especially with his stance on the war in Iraq he did put together a good documentary on how Big Oil has got the US by the cojones and the repukes aren’t doing a thing about it. Basically, the technologies exist to wean ourselves from oil or at the very least use less of it, but the government will not subsidize alternative energy sources in a substantial way as I alluded to above.

http://times.discovery.com/convergence/friedman/addictedtooil/addictedtooil.html

I'm tired for tonight. I hope all the links work. I will post the other parts at another time. Thanks for reading. I apologize in advance for murdering any part of the language with my writing or grammar but it can't be as bad as * ruins English.
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whyverne Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:28 PM
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1. Why would they attack the middle class?
Because that's where the money is! We hardly have any markets left in other countries anymore. The grabbable money was in the surplus and in the middle class. One is already grabbed and the other soon will be.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:02 PM
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20. You're absolutely right.
My salary has been stagnant while my country gets buried in debt along with a lot of other people, but we aren't forgiven of our debts while the neocons can wage a war with so much debt.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:47 AM
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32. There's money at the top..
..but *it's* put into political donations. Best investment you can make. Look at the stats--tens of thousands in, hundreds of thousands out; hundreds of thousands in, millions out, etc., etc. It's disgusting. We need campaign finance reform.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:29 PM
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2. They are that bad
It's awful
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:29 PM
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3. Excellent post Maestro!
And your intelligence level is waaaay above average!! Those of us who try to stay informed find it astonishing that other middle class Americans can't see just how bad this president and his merry band of crazed neo-cons..along with his rubber stamping congress, have been for our country. We need to do all we can to try and help others see the light! Too many in our society get their "news" from fox, rush, hannity, coulter, etc. They were brought up to believe what they saw on TV "news" programs ..or on radio talk shows. We need the Fairness Doctrine reinstated and stricter ownership rules for media.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:56 PM
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16. Thank you.
And that Fairness Doctrine would put Faux out of business along with certain pundits. Could you imagine Limpballs or that Nazi Beck under this doctrine? I'd love to see that!
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:33 PM
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4. Good post the answer is Yes .. Kick and NOM nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:35 PM
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5. I believe some are brainwashed and some are complacent and
some are just too tired to give a crap. :shrug: I am deeply depressed. I think at times, I would be better off if I were all, or some of the above. And yet, I can't be that way. And yes, too answer your question, I think our current government is that bad. Republicans have always been the greedy party, not giving a rat's a$$ about those they claim to "help". How they manage, again and again, to convince those who support them, that hard work will reward them, is beyond me. Sooner or later, the rank and file republicans have to get the disconnect between what their leaders tell them they will do too get elected, and what they actually do, once they are elected, which is, reward the rich and crap on the middle class. :shrug: Or at least, that should be the end result of their support.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:39 PM
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6. K & R.
:kick:

:hi:
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:03 PM
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30. Thanks Cleita.
I'll be back tomorrow with more. What really got me thinking besides the downright hatred I have for this administration was what * is going to put in his library. I mean, really, what can he put there? What has he done that is worthy enough for a library? That is what got me thinking and then it snowballed. Thanks for the K & R. Check back tomorrow night if not sooner.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:42 PM
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7. If you say you have "average intellegence" but you're able to see
what's going on in this country, then the rest of this country are fucking retards.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:43 PM
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8. Well at least those who support this crap, are. nt
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:44 PM
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10. If the general population was able to accept what is really going on
We would be taking to the streets right now.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:55 PM
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15. Well, the ** maladministration would just label us as a "fringe" group,
and dismiss us, as per usual. Geeze, I hate being such a defeatist.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:53 PM
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14. I'm starting to believe that or
they are just lazy. Neo-cons are a relatively small portion of the P.O.S. rethug party and they dominate. If we all came together those assholes would be gone!
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:05 PM
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22. We've heard it before and it's still true....
Anyone who still supports this administration is either -

A Bigot
A Millionaire
or
An Idiot
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:44 PM
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9. they have to attack the middle class-we are the only ones who challenge
them...
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:45 PM
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12. Which is why they seek to destroy us. Well that and greed. nt
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:51 PM
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13. Good point.
I am doing some more research now and this profoundly affects education which is part of my next write-up.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:13 PM
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24. Except for the fact that not all middle class are democrats, there
are plenty of republicans that are middle class as well. And those middle class republicans wholly support their party leaders who willfully suppress them financially. :shrug: So why doesn't the middle class rank and file republicans get that?
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:19 PM
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26. I hope they wake up soon, but I swear
some because of misguided religious convictions or racism just won't. I need to add stupidity to that list as well.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:24 PM
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28. I guess when they can't feed their families and their "God" doesn't
provide for their basic needs, that might be the time that they wake up. :shrug: Stupidity only goes so far. These people are beyond stupidity. They really are.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:45 PM
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11. Our country is run by those who lack compassion
All our traditional values, patriotism, honesty, compassion, love of children, respect for
women, family ties, etc. they do not have.

Think of it as American has been taken over by a Gang. There is the Big Man, who everybody
fears and doesn't cross, they sign a loyalty oath to him (remember townhall meetings), and
whatever he wants they do, he doesn't care about any rules: remember, this would be a lot
easier if this was a dictatorship as long as I am the Dictator. He doesn't use the word
Dictator, too many negative connotations: he says he's the Decider. Now all they want to
do is protect their turf and expand their empire, they want power and money all the time
24/7. Remember Jack Abramoff, Mr. Cheat the Indians for what little they have that we don't
already got, was their chief bagman. And the worse part is they don't even have to pay off
the cops or hire a good lawyer because they control the Justice Department and the FBI.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:16 PM
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25. And from the beginning when rethugs
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 10:18 PM by Maestro
started throwing around compassionate conservatism it always rang hollow with me because I had seen previously, starting in the late 80s when I first started paying attention to politics and on into the 90s, what they really cared about, themselves and the almighty dollar. Surprisingly enough it is very weak right now. Just look at the price of gold now. When it goes up, it means the dollar is weak. It closed at $615.62 today, 25 July 2006. Sheesh! Actually, since they know what they are doing, hoarding dollars for themselves, they are just letting us fight it out with speculators sheltering what they can in the gold market.

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:38 PM
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33. how can compassion be conservative
conservative tending to preserve established traditions, compassion means giving of yourself
to help others, you can't say: I am just going to help 3% today and 4% tomorrow and by
Friday I will have my usual 10% quota done.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:54 PM
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37. It makes no sense.
It's quite puzzling.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 05:03 PM
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38. a pack of lies
Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 05:04 PM by MissWaverly
"Senator, in everything that I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right and you turned out to
be wrong and 100,000 people paid with their lives; 1600 of them American soldiers sent to their
deaths on a pack of lies; 15,000 of them wounded, many of them disabled forever on a pack of lies."

George Galloway testimony before the US Senate, Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental
Affairs, Subcommittee on Investigations May 17, 2005
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:59 PM
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17. I've said it before and I'll say it again
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 10:01 PM by EOO
The fundies are single-handedly the greediest group of people on the planet. They do not care about people. They do not care about the middle class. All they care about is their insane version of religion - the rapture. They want armageddon so they can "see Jesus". All they care about is their pocketbooks. They want more for themselves and less for everyone else - this includes fucking over the economy like they have and getting tax cuts for the rich. Keep building those 50,000 seat megachurches and keep the sheeple in line. That seems to be the only reason our government still exists.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:02 PM
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19. you are right...and people keep lining up to be saved
they are building THREE new churches in a ten mile radius of this rural area I live in...while these epople all drive 20 year-old cars,and keep giving their money to Jesus...
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:09 PM
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23. Oh man.
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 10:09 PM by Maestro
Don't get me started with those fools. There are several mega-churches in my area. I pass this one everyday on my way to work. It's not the worse. The worst in Texas used to Robert "I speak in tongues" Tilton (while he robbed everyone blind), but one of the worst that gets respect from too many is this screwball down in San Antonio. John Hagee The link is hard to read but in the section on poverty he believes it is caused by sin and not following the word of God. So give him money, and everything will be alright. If it is not, you are sinning somehow. It's a win-win. TBN, Hagee, Hinn, they are are all charlatans.
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:01 PM
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18. This is the Return of the Guilded Ages
When the few fat rich men control the economy and the masses....(via the press now called MEDIA)

The middle class is being destroyed at a steady but brisk pace... Any thought of helping people is described as communistic or at best socialistic.... which as we all have been well indoctrinated with... IS A BAD IMMORAL THING....

We're all rugged Americans... We should all fight,strive.. .work non-stop for anything we have. Only the lazy expects vacation or only works an 8 hour day.... Hard work will pay off,,,work 16 hours a day and one day.. you too will be able to tell the little man what a lazy fuck he is !
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:21 PM
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27. It's the oil barons and friends.
I swear they are creating a poverty class and an elite class. It will be a two tiered caste system. Back to the Guilded Ages or Medieval Times is right!
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timontheleft Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:03 PM
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21. Yes, it is that bad.
That's what happens when the government is entrusted to people that do not believe in government. Excellent post.

K & R

:kick:
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:37 PM
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29. They really don't care.
You are correct. They want to create a subservient lower class that they will nourish with the idea that they need big brother to protect them while they fleece it blind. Thanks for the K & R. :hi:
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:32 AM
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31. High oil prices & low alt energy assistance/research is what happens when
OIL men and big corporations are allowed to run the country.

For the neo-fundie/CONs the bottom line is the money in their bank accounts. Like any real addict they can't get enough of it and they'll steal from their own mother to get their fix.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:41 PM
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34. Hell yeah maestro! Looking forward to the next.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:51 PM
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41. Here it is.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:55 PM
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35. The minimum wage is about where the rethug bozos want it perpetually
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:53 PM
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36. And I am starting to believe that they want to create a
permanent class that lives at or below the poverty line so they can control it. It's all about power; just like the attack on education for example.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 05:09 PM
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39. for what it's worth
This is not a government we have it is a corporate , religious , facist , dictatorship that is completely out of control and beyond even considering what the people of this country and all around the globe have to deal with . It is very simple to me , they just don't care how many or who die as long as their course remains steady and their base remain loyal .
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:50 PM
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40. True
Their unabashed disdain for the Constitution is proof of that!
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