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wixomblues Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:02 AM
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Are we going to get Gore in 2008?
I know he said he was out, but his actions of late, thankfully, make me think he is considering a run. I, for one, love the man and want to see him return from the wilderness with a kick ass staff and start knocking heads. He is absolutely the man for the job, has the name recognition, and the ABILITY to win, if he shakes off those DNC handlers and just speaks honestly as he has since 2002.

Is there an effort or online source encouraging him to run, other then little post's lime mine?

Do any of you feel the same way, or am I alone in the dark here? Despite me really liking him, as a person and a leader, I think that pragmatically speaking, he's the best shot of taking back the power from the incompetents we have on Pennsylvania right now.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:05 AM
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1. What about...
Kerry/Gore 2008?
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:06 AM
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3. Why relegate Gore to VP status again?
He was VP for eight years. He won in '00. He deserves to be the #1 spot on the ticket. Now Kerry for VP, I might could support that, although there are several others I'd prefer to see in that spot.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:19 AM
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12. Could he only serve one term, though?
Seeing as how he won in 2000...
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:22 AM
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14. But he didn't serve his term, thanks to the SC.
So two terms would be legal.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:27 AM
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16. I know, my tongue was firmly planted in cheek. nt
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:06 AM
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4. Why would Gore want to be VP again? NT
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:07 AM
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5. I really wouldnt want Kerry n/t
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:11 AM
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9. Me either. And I doubt he could win
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:05 AM
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2. Gore/Edwards 08.
Its not my world ideal but I'd make the concession.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:08 AM
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6. I could go with that
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wixomblues Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:47 PM
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19. Why Edwards?
I think he lost clout after O4, and he really hasn't been visible, not like Gore or Dean have. I still like Dean, but I think Gore is the better choice. he's just a good leader damn it.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:09 AM
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7. I'd like to keep all of our congresspeople in Congress...
And I'd rather avoid running anyone who ran in '00 or '08.

Those two principles rule out most of the contenders -- Gore, Kerry, Edwards, Clinton, etc.

I think maybe a Clark/Warner or Warner/Clark ticket would be pretty sweet. It'd probably have to be Warner/Clark. I can see Wesley acquiescing to a run as VP, but I don't think there's a chance in hell that Warner would do it.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:11 AM
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8. You are not alone - Gore is the one for me. He has already won the job
and his courage and staying on course without fear of consequences has impressed me immensely since 2000.
He is like a hammer ( if you pardon the expression ) and comes right back up to hit again, as he proved yesterday when they tried to smear him with lies.

He is not a Johnny come lately - adding an afterthought to established and proven problems - like John Kerry does when and if he weighs in.

Gore is like the proverbial terrier on the pants leg, and I hope he will not get discouraged.

I am actually thinking of him as our only hope, especially after the dismal performance of the democrats in the Alito hearings.
They are acting as if the only way we can have enough evidence to hang the crooks is if we see one of them holding up a severed head in one hand, and holding the knife in the other.

What is is going to take?
As I have said before, it is time for Ms. Lewinski to come to the aid of her country :)
At least then we have precedent to impeach.

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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:13 AM
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10. I don't mind Al Gore so much.
Seeing him run again would definitely be interesting, and provide some interesting strategy possibilities. He could reprise his platform of 2000 and apply it to the circumstances since then, abstractly demonstrating the effects it might have had on the nation. He'd have to be careful about how he did this, but I think it would setup a great 2008 platform.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:15 AM
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11. It's gotta be Gore!
Gore has never completely ruled out the possibility of running again.

But he has to be extra-careful about what he says on this issue, so as not to distract from his other projects, not to take attention away from this year's mid-term elections, not to draw fire from Republicans.

My guess is that Gore is keeping his options open. He will not take a final decision on that until 2007. So it's too early to predict what will happen.

But Monday's speech at Constitution Hall was his best yet!

And next week his global warming movie will premiere at Sundance!

In Gore We Trust
www.algore.org
:)
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sduncang Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:20 AM
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13. I like Gore....
but I suspect he's not really into running again. Maybe I'm wrong. If he is, then expect a hard fought primary season. Kerry, Hillary and four or five others will likely duke it out.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:26 AM
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15. I see the country uniting around Gore
I see other Dems standing aside and letting him have a clear run.

Once Al decides to seek the nomination - it will be impossible for other Dems to stay competitive. Their best option will be to stay out of the race and pledge their support for Gore.

But of course none of us can predict what will happen in the future ...

In Gore We Trust
www.algore.org
:)
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:06 PM
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18. Yes, but Gore is a much better candidate than any of the others
There are three major categories to look at in a Presidential candidate, and nobody but Gore has all three in their favor:

1.) Experience - - nobody but Gore can say they served both as an executive (8 years as VP) and a legislator (8 years in the House and 8 in the Senate). Nobody has Gore's proven record of achievement (most obvious example - - if you can read this, you can thank Al Gore for the Internet). Nobody else was central to the economic success of the 1990s.
2.) Electability - - nobody but Gore has ever won a Presidential election. And he did it under almost impossible circumstances. He began his race 20 points behind, was outspent nearly 2 to 1, did not have 527s like ACT or MoveOn to help (the law which made them possible wasn't passed until 2002), he had unbelievably hostile press, he had a divided party that did not support him - - and he still won.
3.) Ideas - - Gore is the only major Dem who's been on the right side of every issue in the last six years. He opposed the invasion of Iraq before it happened, he opposed the Patriot Act before it was passed, he opposed the tax cuts for the super wealthy, he opposed the endless string of environmentally harmful laws and acts, he was speaking out about the corporate corruption inherent in the GOP even before Smirk was elected, he has been working to get the Dem party to be more grassroots driven, and more focused on the problems of "the people, not the powerful"... and he's been working to split off part of the GOP base who are libertarian or libertarian leaning as well as the GOP moderates.

It is this last category that makes Gore the most "dangerous" for the party establishment. A primary without Gore can be a primary without real introspection. If everybody who runs voted for the invasion of Iraq (for example), the candidates can ignore the war - - or if they have to discuss it, they can claim that they were mislead by Smirk. Nobody has to face the difficult questions about why there were Democrats in and out of office who were not mislead by Smirk, who opposed the war from the moment it was suggested - - and who knew that the justification for the war offered by the Smirk admin was totally bogus at the time Smirk offered it.

Ditto the Bush tax cuts, or the reorganization of FEMA into a death trap (including the confirmation of Chertoff by a 98 to 0 vote in the Senate), or the Patriot Act, or any number of very bad votes that all of the Dems in office made during Smirk's first term - - even before 9/11 came along to be everybody's catch-all excuse.

A primary without Gore will accept that being duped by somebody who has been lying to you for two years straight is a quality America appreciates in a Presidential candidate - - or that allowing an enemy attack to bleed you of your common sense and political courage is a Presidential characteristic - - because anybody other than Gore who tries to say "I was against the war" or "I never would have voted for the Patriot Act" because they can be shouted down by the following two excuses:

1.) You don't have the experience on the national stage to realize that my actions were the correct ones
2.) So what, you're not electable and I am

It is the second argument that will end all real discussion in the primary, because it feeds into the media's story line about Democrats - - we can't win.
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:35 AM
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17. Strategically, I think it would be advantageous not to run Gore.
Instead, have Gore stump for 06 and 08 candidates. Without having to worry about the mechanics of a campaign, Gore is free to stump for the Presidential race and the Congressional races. His presence and endorsement could be a big boost for a lot of candidates.

Also, you have to remember that Al is a family man. I’m sure that he’s discussed the possibility of running with his family and if the energy wasn’t there for a campaign, he wouldn’t push it.
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wixomblues Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:57 PM
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21. Isn't his family grown?
And I appreciate he can help others, but that shouldn't dissuade him from running. let's break it down, the likely candidates:


Dean: Not well liked by all, speaks his mind, is brutalized in the MSM as crazy.

Hillary: MSM aside, sorry, if we're going to shoot down gay marriage proposals in my blue state in 2004, she's not going to get elected. She's Rove's first choice. Nothing against her, although I don't care for her and find her shrill and annoying, she is not a winner IMHO.

Mark Warner: Has got a great shot. Just like Clinton, if they are intelligent and well versed, the outsider may rise above the fray. People love electing governors. However, Bush was from Texas and had name recognition. Clinton was from the South, and well, he was Bill F'n Clinton. They don't make many like him. I don't thing Virginia is going to decide the next election, and it won't give him street cred in the south.

Anyone Else: Just not realistic.

or am I forgetting someone, and don't say Conyer. We need to keep him in Michigan.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:54 PM
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20. Tne Corporate Wing of the Democratic Party....
...would work with the Republicans to torpedo any Gore campaign for 2008.
After Monday, I would follow Al Gore to the Gates of Hell.
:patriot:
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