Dennis Kucinich for President

[The Sushi Bandit]

He is my man for the job!!

All the others fail in compairison.

John Conyers, Jr. for VP

If you agree.. Recommend this Topic!

[Placebo]

1. Yeah, maybe in a parallel alternate perfect universe...

but not in the real world!

[wildbilln864]

3. I would vote for that ticket...

I believe they both to be most honorable!

[DYouth]

4. He could be elected -- I'm saying it here and now

Political elections at the Presidential level are more about image than anything else. Whoever the Dems pick will be cast as a far left nutjob. But if that "farleft nutjob" can speak honestly and boldly and reach people -- well, then he's going to win the election.

Still, Kucinich doesn't have the money to capture hearts in the primary. It's all about the money. But he could win a fair election. He could, just as he has many times.

[The Sushi Bandit]

2. At Historic Moment-- Administration Is Failing Its Moral Obligation...

To Seek A Cessation Of Violence In The Middle East
Policy Of Inaction Will Have Great Consequences For The Region And World

Washington, Jul 25 -

Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH), Ranking Democratic on the House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations, gave the following floor speech today on the continuing violence in the Middle East:



“At this historic moment the United States is failing in its moral obligation to bring a cessation of the violence in the Middle East. This policy of inaction will have great consequences for the region, the world and safety of our nation and our allies.



“The United States stands alone in our ability to bring an end to the violence in the Middle East, relieve the humanitarian catastrophe that has enveloped the people of Lebanon, Palestine and Israel.



“In the short term, we must call for an end to the violence. Then, without preconditions, we must bring all parties in the region to negotiate a long-term settlement that will be enforced by peacekeepers. This is the purpose of House Concurrent Resolution 450.



“As we demonstrate concern about the plight of the Israelis, so we must not be indifferent to the plight of the Arabs, Muslims and Christians, and all others who are suffering the destruction of their homes, their families, their hopes, their dreams.



“As the violence continues, with no end in sight, and with civilian casualties on the rise, this is the moment to call for the end of fear and the beginning of hope. House Concurrent Resolution 450 does just that.”



Congressman Kucinich last week introduced H. Con. Res. 450 a resolution calling, “upon the President to appeal to all sides in the current crisis in the Middle East for an immediate cessation of violence and to commit the United States diplomats to multi-party negotiations with no preconditions.”



http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=47745

[blonndee]

5. Abso-friggin-lutely!

But I'm a pie in the sky kind of a gal.

[The Sushi Bandit]

6. Kucinich: Choose Peace Over War

Washington, Jul 18 -

Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH) gave the following floor speech today:



“We make war with such certainty, yet are befuddled how to create peace. This paradox requires reflection, if we are to survive. Making and endorsing war demands a secret love of death, a fearful desire to embrace annihilation. Creating peace requires the mirror of compassion, putting ourselves in the other person’s place, in all their suffering, in all their hopes, and to act from our heart’s capacity for love, not fear.



“The fight against terrorism in the 21st century is beginning to have the feel of the fight against communism in the 20th century: Conjuring of enemies, scapegoating and wanton destruction. Our war on terror has become a war of errors.



“So we blindly exercise our capacity for war making. And, because we have not yet begun to explore our capacity for peacemaking, we are reduced to a predatory voyeurism, at once making war, watching war, being aghast at war, impotent to stop our own creation.



“We are the most powerful nation but, we do not have the power to reserve for ourselves, or to grant to our allies, an exemption from the laws of cause and effect.



“The fate of the world hangs in the balance. And until we consciously choose peace over war, life over death, the balance is tipping towards mutually assured destruction.”

[T Town Jake]

7. In '72 and '84 our party lost 49 states...

...a Kucinich candidacy would put us within striking distance of losing 50, and topping those records.

No thanks.

[The Sushi Bandit]

8. I dont agree at all

Dennis could win Hawai'i hands down! He beat all dems in the 2004 primary, including Kerry.
He could also do very well in California, Washington, New England and he would carry OHIO for starters.

[Freddie Stubbs]

34. HI did not have a Presidential primary in 2004

[The Sushi Bandit]

39. my bad typo

[Placebo]

9. Thank you!

A voice of reason doesn't take long to chime in.

[The Sushi Bandit]

11. Hey, I was there for those elections and those candidates SUCKED

They were too nice and were one issue guys..

Dennis has a well thought out PLAN and is not afraid to go toe to toe with anyone.

[Placebo]

13. A lot of people were there for those elections...

who would love to make the same stupid mistakes again and not learn their lesson.

Luckily, saner minds (I hope and pray) will rule the day!

[DYouth]

14. What mistakes? It's been proven by Chomsky and others that

the people were much to the left on the issues than the major candidates but that the election was between public relations machines and not issues.

If Denis articulated issues (which Kerry for one did not do), he could win easily.

[T Town Jake]

22. Hey, I was too, Sushi, and I'm telling you THIS:

every Republican with an IQ above sixty in the country would get down on their hands and knees and blubber prayers to heaven if Dennis Kucinich were the Democratic Presidential nominee in 2008, or just about any other year you'd care to mention.

I remember bold talk in '84 about how Reagan was going down in the election because our candidate, Mondale, HAD A PLAN and the American people were just lying to the pollsters about who they were going to vote for because they...I dunno, just liked the guy and didn't want to hurt his feelings, or something.

Guess who laughed their asses off at such talk all the way to taking 49 states?

I'll give you two guesses, and the first one doesn't count.

I say again: No thanks.

[DYouth]

10. I doubt it

The Presidential elections are run by the public relations industry. There's no reason for Kucinich to lose because of that if he managed to get the nomination.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

12. One word:

LOL.

Or is that three words?

I think Kucinich might be too "left-wing" for Canada. I like the guy, but c'mon.

[The Sushi Bandit]

15. If you like him...please Support Him!

it's all about one person at a time coming over to the reality that if we do not make the RIGHT change then the SAFE one will DOOM us.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

23. I'm Canadian, so I can't "support" him.

Thus the reference to him being too left-wing for my country..

[Placebo]

18. Precisely.

It's plain as day. Kucinich is totally unelectable.

[The Sushi Bandit]

16. Kucinich and Conyers on Universal Health Care

Congressman Kucinich is an original cosponsor of the Medicare for All Act with Congressman John Conyers, HR 676. This bill would provide all Americans the health care they need, from any doctor they choose, at a universal, high standard of quality. Americans would not be burdened with copayments, premiums or deductibles. Rather, they would be guaranteed access to medically necessary health care, including inpatient and outpatient care, dental care, vision care, pharmaceuticals, and other treatments that a patient’s doctor would deem necessary. In addition, this bill would come at a cost savings to employers.

When Congress considered the budget resolution, H.R. 676 was included as part of the Progressive Caucus’ Alternative Budget resolution.

On May 1, 2001 Congressman Kucinich, on behalf of the Progressive Caucus, hosted a Universal Health Care Briefing in collaboration with the Congressional Black Caucus and Hispanic Caucus. Congressman Kucinich brought together 12 members of Congress, former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich, Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, as well as numerous other doctors, nurses, health care advocates, and patients. As part of the briefing, the Physicians for a National Health Program presented a proposal of a national, single-payer health plan.

[The Sushi Bandit]

17. Legislation Introduced to Create a Department of Peace and Nonviolence

On September 14, 2005 Congressman Kucinich introduced H.R. 3760 (first introduced July 11, 2001) a bill to create a Cabinet-level Department of Peace and Nonviolence which embodies a broad-based approach to peaceful, non-violent conflict resolution at both domestic and international levels. The Department of Peace and Nonviolence would serve to promote non-violence as an organizing principle in our society, and help to create the conditions for a more peaceful world.

Domestically, the Department would be responsible for developing policies which address issues such as domestic violence, child abuse, and mistreatment of the elderly. Internationally, the Department would analyze foreign policy and make recommendations to the President on matters pertaining to national security, including the protection of human rights and the prevention and de-escalation of unarmed and armed international conflict.

The Department would also have an Office of Peace Education that would work with educators in elementary, secondary and universities in the development and implementation of curricula to instruct students in peaceful conflict resolution skills. In addition, a Peace Academy, modeled after the military service academies, would be established to provide instruction in peace education and offer opportunities for graduates to serve in programs dedicated to domestic or international nonviolent conflict resolution.

I encourage you to review the Department of Peace and Nonviolence legislation and share with me any comments you have on the legislation.


Summary of Department of Peace and Nonviolence Legislation

Legislation introduced by Congressman Dennis Kucinich to create a Department of Peace and Nonviolence includes the following:



Establish a cabinet-level department in the executive branch of the Federal Government dedicated to peacemaking and the study of conditions that are conducive to both domestic and international peace.

Headed by a Secretary of Peace and Nonviolence, appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.

The mission of the Department shall: hold peace as an organizing principle; endeavor to promote justice and democratic principles to expand human rights; strengthen nonmilitary means of peacemaking; promote the development of human potential; work to create peace, prevent violence, divert from armed conflict and develop new structures in nonviolent dispute resolution; and take a proactive, strategic approach in the development of policies that promote national and international conflict prevention, nonviolent intervention, mediation, peaceful resolution of conflict and structured mediation of conflict.

The Department will create and establish a Peace Academy, modeled after the military service academies, which will provide a 4 year concentration in peace education. Graduates will be required to serve 5 years in public service in programs dedicated to domestic or international nonviolent conflict resolution.

The principal officers of the Department, in addition to the Secretary of Peace and Nonviolence will include; the Under Secretary of Peace and Nonviolence; the Assistant Secretary for Peace Education and Training; the Assistant Secretary for Domestic Peace Activities, the Assistant Secretary for International Peace Activities; the Assistant Secretary for Technology for Peace; the Assistant Secretary for Arms Control and Disarmament; the Assistant Secretary for Peaceful Coexistence and Nonviolent Conflict Resolution; the Assistant Secretary for Human and Economic Rights; and a General Counsel.

The first day of each year, January 1st will be designated as Peace Day in the United States and all citizens should be encouraged to observe and celebrate the blessings of peace and endeavor to create peace in the coming year

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[rman]

28. Nader is irrelevant, unless you do guilt by association.

The rest of your comment is downright freeperish in nature.

[Douglas Carpenter]

19. the idea of voting my conscience at least in the primaries sounds better

and better to me all the time

[Strawman]

63. I agree

Until the system changes (perhaps never), it's the only opportunity I really have to vote 100% affirmatively for someone.

[NoSheep]

21. I would love that! I would also love a Psilocybin mushroom omelet for

breakfast everyday! And live in a world that would make that okay...Hey! That rhymes!

I love the man. But it ain't happenin' anytime soon.

[bowens43]

24. Sadly, he's unelectable.

The american will not vote for him because he looks like a mouse.

[sgxnk]

37. that's a copout

the other posters are right. he is not electable because of his POSITIONS

blaming his looks is just looking for excuses. he could be brad pitt handsome, and he still would stand no chance. using his looks is just an easy out

[magellan]

25. I did an online "find your candidate" survey in 2000

You know, one of those where you answer questions and it tells you which of the presidential candidates suits you best. I was surprised when it told me Kucinich was my man. I voted Gore as I'd planned to, but have watched Kucinich since and been nothing but impressed. I'd definitely vote for a Kucinich/Conyers ticket in '08!

K&R.

[EFerrari]

26. Denis Kucinich is one of the most remarkable people walking

on this planet. I hope he stays in public office for a long time because we need someone willing to counter the corrupt mess that is our government.

[rucky]

27. Yep! Here we are facing another war & once again...

he's the only person standing up against it.

Nobody's learned a damn thing in Congress. It's like "peace" isn't in their vocabulary.

America doesn't deserve Kucinich and Conyers, but they would really change the world for the better. I wonder why we're so afraid of doing that?

I guess it's more fun to complain.

[YOY]

29. I love Dennis but time for reality to come into picture

Married how many times?

Not the best of track records (granted he tried) as mayor of Cleveland.

He doesn't have the 'Alpha male look' and idiots in this country want that.

Idiots: "Koo-sin-ich, What kinda funny last name is that Billy Joe? We All need t' vote fer someone 'Murikan soundin!"

[eridani]

30. Like Schwartzenegger? So "American" and easy to pronounce

His rejuvenated career was essentially based on the fact that years later, everybody realized that he was right to stand up for public power.

[hayu_lol]

31. Dennis is the perpetual 3% candidate...

The only folks who backed him...in any state...were the Greens. And, we all know what damage the Greens have done to this country.

The only candidate with the experience, the training, the education, and the ability to put this nation back together is WES CLARK.

[The Sushi Bandit]

40. What damage have the Green's done?

save a tree?? compost garbage, carpooled to a meeting? saved a whale?

[bvar22]

47. Not True.

DK pulled 37% at our Democratic Party Caucus in Minnesota.
He also enjoyed continued support all the way to the Democratic Convention because he was the ONLY candidate not afraid to STAND for the ISSUES dear to the heart of ALL true Democrats.

Please notice:
ALL (every single one) the DK critics on this thread FAIL to speak of a single REAL issue.

[LWolf]

50. Let me repeat that, in bold:

Please notice:
ALL (every single one) the DK critics on this thread FAIL to speak of a single REAL issue.

While Dennis Kucinich is miles ahead of the mainstream pack on most issues.

[YOY]

52. It's not a criticism of HIM but of the acceptance ability of voters

I like Dennis but the Johnny Sixpack does not and won't support him.

But hell, if you need people who like him to shoot him down to see just why it would never work then I salute your delusions! :patriot:

[LWolf]

61. If I took that attitude, I'd be a failure in my profession.

I'm a teacher. If I went around saying that I might as well not teach some things, because too many kids just didn't have the ability to learn them, my license would be appropriately yanked.

I hear all the time that DK is "ahead of his time." That he's great, but "most people won't vote for him." As a progressive, I want my country, my planet, my human family, to MOVE FORWARD. To evolve. To become more and more enlightened. That's the "progress" in "progressive."

I don't know how the hell we are supposed to expect people to evolve when those who know better are saying, "Not enough people are enlightened (able) enough to accept a better candidate. We have to stay stuck in the destructive, corrupt patterns that we're in by electing some that are "not as corrupt," or "not as destructive."

If we really want to move forward, we'll support candidates who are there, who will lead the way. It's our job to bring the message to voters in such a way that lights will turn on. Unless, like the teacher who thinks too many students don't have the ability to learn higher level content, we believe that too many voters don't have the ability to think, grow, and move forward.

I'm not that teacher, or that voter.

[YOY]

73. Um yeah...

A little realism never hurt anyone...too much makes you delusional.

This is coming from the guy with a Peace Corps symbol as his avatar.

Dennis is ahead of his time, he also unelectable to most of America.

[LWolf]

75. I think the narrow-minded "unelectable"

propaganda that is used to limit potential candidates to the "not as bad" or stagnant, "don't shake anything up" variety has done as much damage to the Democratic Party than Republican propaganda. Just me.

The "electable" or "unelectable" label is BULLSHIT. First of all, in the "real" world, all Democratic candidates are "unelectable" until the so-called "party leaders" decide to take on election fraud and guarantee that every voter is able to vote, every vote is counted accurately, and accurate recounts for accountability purposes can be accomplished.

Secondly, it is more than shameful the way Democrats allow their own to be mischaracterized into "unelectability." It favors the corporate wing of the party, of course, to do so. It doesn't serve the rank and file voters, though, and they should not participate in the practice of belittling the best their party has to offer so that the corrupt powers that be can remain so. If the Party, the campaigners, and the voters were to focus on what candidates stand for, and counter the unfriendly PR campaigns from opponents with reality, they'd be elected.

Using the "electable" strategy, the only candidates who can "win" are those who will put their focus into negative, misleading propaganda about the opponent, rather than campaigning on worthy issues and record that they have to offer.

[YOY]

77. I think you are mis-charactarizing here...and overestimating voters

The comfortable (and shrinking) midwestern suburbanite does not have enough information (or has been subjugateed with misinformation or apathy) to the point where they any candidate with character not in sync with what they could recodnize as a leader. Probably the aforementioned apathy and 'everything is just fine' attitude has much more to do with this acceptance of more vanilla candidates than anything else.

Voters are ready and willing to accept nothing more than a candidate with what I like to call flawless 'fambly values'.

I hardly think mine is an opinion subjugated by 'corporate propoganda'.

Face it. If voters can be duped into voting for a fake cowboy by his record of 'Christian living' what chance does a guy like Dennis have, regardless of his fresh and great ideas?

[LWolf]

78. I hear what you are saying.

I choose to believe that, given information in a non-threatening way, and time to process it, the average voter will eventually make a reasoned choice. Just like I believe that my students, given non-threatening opportunities and time to process, will learn the content I'm paid to teach them. I'm an unapologetic idealist, it's true. I remember once, some years back, having a private discussion, office door closed, with my boss. He was addressing the most recent staff meeting, where I'd made a statement that was received with shock, outrage, and private joy...all of those things. Because it said bluntly what everyone thought, no one had the courage to say, and cut through all the bureaucratic political bullshit we deal with to address the real needs of the kids in our care. Only one person responded, to say nastily, "Yeah, well, we all know you idealists live in utopia; the rest of us have to deal with reality." My boss, behind his closed door, told me that it was a good thing I didn't speak up too often, because the way I cut through all the social niceties to get to the point intimidated people. He also said he hoped I'd still speak up now and again, because, while many not might see the big picture, idealists carry the vision for our future.

That's just who I am; the unapologetic idealist. I think we gain more by putting our sights on the best, the highest, the greatest we can achieve. If we don't reach that summit, fine. We will have progressed further than if we'd just sneered, called something "impossible," or someone "unelectable," and settled for "not as bad as the other side."

I think when we do that on a regular basis, people take notice. It gives them hope, and they begin to crawl out of that self-medicated, numb state of "at least we're not as bad."

[dweller]

53. bold

:kick:


dp

[The Sushi Bandit]

69. True!

He is a Great man who can be trusted

[The Sushi Bandit]

72. .

[YOY]

33. Dennis never made any movies in which he

'Keels them tear-wrists' to sate the mind of the simple folk. He wasn't a household name well before his political career.

Face it, only a small crowd would back him. It is a sad, but true fact.

[LWolf]

32. Dennis has my support and vote anytime he needs it.

I'm happy to give my support to the man with courage, integrity, commitment, empathy, and intelligence I don't see matched by any other politician.

[AnOhioan]

35. I voted for, and worked for, DK in 2004

I support him as my congressman and would support him as my nominee for President.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

36. EEEK! Too Liberal!! We need somebody "not as bad".

Besides, Dennis keeps telling the truth. A handicap in any political race.

[BlueEyedSon]

38. Nah, Bernie Sanders.

[G_j]

41. I'm with you there n/t

[gordontron]

42. thanks for focusing on 2006, thinking about 2008 is really going to help

:rolleyes:

[MaggieSwanson]

43. Oh, YES!

Dennis Kucinich is the embodiment of what Democrats stand for, in my eyes. He has soul, compassion, pragmatism, and one of the sharpest intellects I have ever been in the presence of. He is, for me, the candidate by which all others will forever be measured.

Run, Dennis, Run!

[The Sushi Bandit]

44. Dennis: What are they waiting for, the Apocalypse?

http://www.kucinich.us/archive/report/display.php?r=44&d=2006-07-21+21%3A38%3A28


US Has a Moral Obligation to Become Diplomatically Involved -- Immediately.

July 21, 2006 9:38 pm ET

As the situation in the Middle East continues to rapidly deteriorate, the Administration is failing our nation's moral obligation to become actively involved, diplomatically, to resolve this conflict.

This Administration's stated policy of inaction has allowed the situation to degenerate and therefore has contributed to the increasingly violent conflict in the region. Their policy of inaction makes the region, and the world, less safe. It makes Americans more vulnerable here at home and abroad. It puts our troops in Iraq at great risk. It makes a peaceful resolution nearly impossible.

Everyday this Administration sits on the sidelines the chance for a peaceful resolution becomes less likely. Every day this Administration sits on the sidelines more innocent civilians on all sides are dying. Every day this Administration sits on the sidelines America's already poor reputation in the world community gets worse.

The Administration seems content to sit on the sidelines as a full-blown regional war breaks out. What are they waiting for, the Apocalypse?

The region urgently needs diplomatic assistance. The US must claim the role of mediator. It must speak and act like a mediator.

The US must become involved immediately in seeking a peaceful resolution to the current conflict. To help accomplish this, I have introduced legislation, H.Con.Res. 450, calling upon the President to appeal to all sides in the current crisis in the Middle East for an immediate cessation of violence and to commit US diplomats to multi-party negotiations.

Only by acting as an honest broker can the United States have any authority and success in bringing peace to the region, and in de-escalating the conflict.

[saracat]

45. Never. He does not look or act presidential enough.

Sorry but those are the facts.He has enough difficulty holding on to his house seat. I like what he stands for but he couldn't get elected.His personality is off putting.I sat though a lot of interviews and several debates and Denis could not cut it. He is very annoying to listen to. AND I like what he says so just imagine those that don't agree with him. They would never subject their ears to that punishment!

[AnOhioan]

66. The facts, in relation to his House Seat, are not in dispute...

except in your mind. DK has absolutely no problem holding his seat in the House. He wins by convincing margins every election.

[dweller]

46. just watching this thread

to see it at the top of the greatest page. My rec is already there, and it's very interesting to read what supporters have to say, and the same, tired, and lame responses of those that fear him the most.


:kick:

it's going up.
dp

[Greyhound]

48. Did you learn nothing from Jimmy Carter?

Honorable, honest, realistic, proposing workable solutions regardless or their origins, doing the right thing because it is the right thing, these are the qualities that amerikans hate.

[mopinko]

49. all talk, no action, sorry.

they stole 04 under his nose. he released a statement, weeks later. did nothing. showed absolutely no leadership. sorry. dennis may be a fine philosopher, and writer. he is not a leader.

[LWolf]

59. Actually, he walks his talk.

Starting with this: when he takes a position on an issue, he actually introduces legislation to support that position, and then works to get cosponsors. It's true that he doesn't get enough cosponsors to get much of the legislation passed, but he's always working on it. If more of his own party members in the house supported all of his action, it would help.

I don't think the '04 vote count was his to "lead." The Democratic Party had a choice; they didn't choose him to lead them in that case. So he accepted the voter's choice, and campaigned harder for Kerry than any of his fellow primary candidates that were not nominated, even while his own campaign for the house was going on. If the Democratic Party wanted a leader to deal with election/vote fraud, Kerry was the "chosen one" who should have stepped forward. I'm sure, if he had, that DK would have been there with him.

[mopinko]

62. in other words, he is a good follower.

sorry we need a leader. stephanie tubbs jones stood up for the voters, as did others, including many here in illinois, michigan, other states. but dennis hid under the desk.
whatever. i am sick of st dennis.

[LWolf]

65. No.

I don't think anyone found him under his desk, lol. He was working on this issue long before the November '04 election; not that too many people were listening.

<snip>

I am strong supporter and co-sponsor of H.R. 2239, otherwise known as the "Voter Confidence and Increased Accountability Act of 2003." If enacted, this bill would:

* Require all voting machines to produce a voter-verified paper record for use in manual audits and recounts.
* Ban the use of undisclosed software and wireless communications devices in voting systems.
* Have required all voting systems to meet these requirements in time for the general election in November 2004.
* Require that electronic voting systems be provided for persons with disabilities by January 1, 2006.
* Require mandatory surprise recounts in 0.5% of domestic jurisdictions and 0.5% of overseas jurisdictions.


http://www.kucinich.us/issues/e_voting.php

<snip>

Kucinich press release

Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, who has been sounding warning alarms regarding electronic voting systems since he began his campaign last year, today called on federal, state and local election officials “to suspend immediately the implementation of any voting systems that do not provide a 100 percent reliable paper-trail back-up to corroborate results.”

http://www.opednews.com/kucinichpr042404_electronic_voting.htm

And, of course, on November 3rd he made these statements to Amy Goodman:

<snip>

The electoral votes are still being decided. We must let this process continue. And so, that's something that I think the American people want to happen, and that we owe it to the effort that's been conducted here to make sure that every vote counts, and every vote is counted.

<and snip>

...we have an absolute obligation to check all this out carefully and not take any comfort from the secretary of state of Ohio who has conducted his office in a manner of almost of a partisan at a time when people really needed someone in that office who actually shows true impartiality. We haven't seen that come out of the secretary of state's office.

<and snip>

So, you know, we do have the additional problem of a secretary of state in Ohio, who is actually auditioning to be the second Katherine Harris.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/03/1520237

And, on November 17th:

<snip>

“I strongly support the request for a recount in Ohio,” Kucinich said in a statement sent to the Cobb-LaMarche campaign.

Kucinich said that a “recount is an appropriate response to officials who tried to suppress the vote” and that the “highly partisan activities of state election officials cast doubt on the integrity of the elections process.”

There's plenty more; I suggest that he did as much as Kerry/Edwards did. As far as leading or following, wasn't it his job, in this instance, to follow Kerry's lead? Isn't, as he said in several interviews, democracy all about accepting the will of the voters? If the voters wanted him to lead, why did they put Kerry/Edwards out in front? Wasn't he doing his "job" as a loyal Democrat? Or should he have pulled a Lieberman and run as an independent? Many of us would have stuck with him all the way through November, in that case.

[MuseRider]

68. This is exactly the problem.

"I don't think anyone found him under his desk, lol. He was working on this issue long before the November '04 election; not that too many people were listening."

Over and over again I watch the important issues of the day get debated and moaned over with the statement, "nobody is doing anything about this!" Usually if you look around you will find a lonely thread about Dennis Kucinich actually doing something, a couple of people post and kick it but the vast majority ignore it and plead with other Democrats to do something.

[AnOhioan]

67. Your are welcome to your opinion,

as narrow-minded as it is. Have a nice day.

[The Sushi Bandit]

70. Its all about "Bandwidth"

Dennis has stood up time and time again to lead in resolving real issues but the corporate weenies in the press choose to ignore him because he is not "Sexy" enough.

Well, Dennis has endurance and they will eventually HAVE to pay attention to him!

[cosmicdot]

51. I voted for him in 2004; and, will do it again

got to hear him speak on the campaign trail ... he presents a clear vision and offers specific solutions to problems facing our country, its infrastructure, etc. He offers more than just a lot of general rhetoric. He touches on topics not even on most politicians radar screens.

It may be an inconvenient truth to some, but it will take the type of vision and leadership Dennis Kucinich offers to rescue this country. Labels, looks, etc., may become secondary to the needs of the Nation.

AFAIC, not much progress has been made since the '60s. Corporations have faired better than people.
We're adrift in mediocrity, gridlock, corporatism, and do-nothingness. Progress made since the New Deal is eroding. That's center-right-far right leadership at the helm ... or rather pseudo-leadership. It may take an economic depression to wake people up, but I hope not. Comfortable Americans seem to be easily distracted from what is important (bread & butter). Enter wedge issues as anti-worker/unions, flag burning, anti-Gay marriage, and rights' denial in general.

Of course, the current media situation doesn't help matters. I wonder if those who belittle Kucinich have ever heard him speak in person? The same faces grace the TV screen across America day after day. Is Dennis and his ideas given equal time? He's marginalized to the basement of public opinion by those who think they should have all the spotlight.

Some like to point to the Watergated year of '72 why we shouldn't offer a progressive (or is it a liberal) candidate. Right-wing talking point. No asterisks * mentioning, explaining the Watergate/dirty campaigning (Nixon helped to eliminate Humphrey and Muskie in 1972) or how assassinations -- even racism (Reagan kicking off his campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi) -- may have affected certain election outcomes. Nixon didn't even debate in 1968 nor 1972. Since I had a relative run for Congress in 1972, I can tell you that money POURED into pockets to buy Nixon support. In '68-'72, I'd say the Party was divided by bosses/machines/backroom politicians who didn't like giving up control to the grassroots. In 1972, how much difference could there have been between Humphrey, Muskie and McGovern as the candidate?

The GOP stole 2000, 2004, and very likely October Surprised 1980. As JFK said in campaign speeches about 1952 and 1956, Ike hadn't been a Democrat nor a Republican. There's just more to the story than the outcome.

Would RFK have prevailed in 1968? I think he would have because I know college seniors-against-the- Vietnam War voted Nixon because they said Humphrey was for the war and Nixon had a secret plan to end it. That's why they voted for Nixon. Liberal Humphrey almost pulled it out. Domestic issues took to the backseat. Were those Democrats for Nixon fooled or what? I'd say the Reagan Democrats were duped, too. What were they thinking? It's morning in ketchup is a vegetable, Iran-Contra-gated, high deficit America.

People never seem to learn from history. They need to be reminded, and learn the hard way.

Should we let the outcome of 1972 control our destiny? The election records are a bit tainted for me to hang a definitive hat on; plus, things change, i.e., the Left Coast voted for Nixon in 1972 and Ford in 1976.

Republicans won 6 states in '32
Republicans won 2 states in '36
Republicans won 10 states in '40
Republicans won 12 states in '44
Republicans won 6 states in '64

Did they stop running conservatives? Have they stopped being the party of Big Business?
Did they run Republicans-in-Name-Only? The closest Nelson Rockefeller got to the Oval Office was through appointment as VP, and he was dropped for conservative Bob Dole.

Wasn't American progress involved in these elections ... at least, to some extent?

I'll support Dennis if he choses to run again.


http://www.kucinich.us/
http://kucinich.house.gov/

[The Sushi Bandit]

55. Kucinich On The Veto Override Of The Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act

Statement of Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich On The Veto Override Of The Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act

Washington, Jul 19 - Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH) issued the following statement on the House vote to override the President’s veto of HR 810, The Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act:

“This debate is not about whether or not embryonic stem cell research should occur. The Administration is not stopping private embryonic stem cell research. It just opposes the expansion of public stem cell research. The Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act is the safest, most ethically and morally sound way to proceed with this potentially life-saving scientific advancement.

“The private sector is not restricted from such research. The legislation, vetoed today, would have expanded the number of frozen embryos to be used for stem cell research by the Federal Government. Federally sponsored research is subject to greater oversight and safeguards and higher ethical standards.

“Recent scientific breakthroughs have demonstrated that embryonic stem cell research has life saving potential. It could result in saving millions of lives. It could be the answer to the prayers of those who suffer from Parkinson's, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, spinal cord injuries and other debilitating conditions.

“Embryonic stem cell research will continue with or without the federal government. This bill would have expanded federal research, which will be subject to greater oversight and safeguards.

“I disagree with the President’s decision to veto this important legislation and hope Congress will continue to work to advance this important, and life saving research.”

[lovuian]

54. I Love Dennis the Menace

He is one helluva guy!!!

[The Sushi Bandit]

56. Kucinich and Conyers vote Against US and India Nuclear Cooperation Act

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 411

H R 5682 RECORDED VOTE 26-Jul-2006 9:17 PM
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: United States and India Nuclear Cooperation Promotion Act


Ayes Noes PRES NV
Republican 219 9 3
Democratic 140 58 3
Independent 1
TOTALS 359 68 6

[kittykitty]

57. Almost every morning he makes an impassioned speech in the chamber

of the house of representatives during the mornings session when they are allowed to make 1 (?) minutes speeches.

[raysr]

58. I'm wearing my

DK for prez 2004 tee as I type!

[MamaBear]

60. Yes.

Dennis is the only guy who has clearly articulated positions on political peace and social justice, and he doesn't seem to be afraid of AIPAC.

I'll have to pull a lever for some thug or other eventually, but until then, Dennis has my support.

[The Sushi Bandit]

64. Kucinich and Conyers vote against US-Oman Free Trade Agreement

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 392
H R 5684 YEA-AND-NAY 20-Jul-2006 2:52 PM
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: To implement the United States-Oman Free Trade Agreement


Yeas Nays PRES NV
Republican 199 28 4
Democratic 22 176 3
Independent 1
TOTALS 221 205 7

[The Sushi Bandit]

71. Kucinich Talks About His Middle East Cease Fire Resolution

Interviewed on Democracy Now!

Updated July 27, 2006

As the third week of Israeli attacks on Lebanon began, Congressman Kucinich appeared Wednesday morning on Democracy Now!, where Host Amy Goodman asked him about H. Con. Res. 450.

"It calls upon the President to seek an immediate cessation of the violence, to have the United States lead the way towards multiparty talks without any preconditions."

When asked about support for the resolution, Kucinich said, "Well, there's a couple dozen right now ... I’m hopeful that as the American public continue to watch, aghast at the violence that is occurring both in the Palestinian areas as well as throughout Lebanon, as well as the attacks that are continuing on Israel, that people all over will say, 'Look, it's time for the US to step in and say, "Stop this." Let's bring everyone together. Let's in the short term stop the violence; in the long term, bring about a negotiated settlement involving all parties.' "

Asked about the Israel shelling in South Lebanon that killed four U.N. peacekeepers, Kucinich responded, "I’m condemning the loss of life anywhere. There's a lot of innocent people being killed ... I just hope an investigation will not show that this was deliberate ... whether it was deliberate or accidental, the effect is the same: the loss of life of people who are trying to be in the service of peace.

"This shows you how urgent it is for the United States to change its course, to call for an immediate cessation of violence, to bring all the parties together, without preconditions, and such multiparty talks will be the path towards a long-term resolution. The US must recognize that we have to talk to one another ...

"You know, Abraham Lincoln gave a speech in his second inaugural that I think is a template for diplomacy and dialogue. He said, "With malice towards none, with charity for all." I mean, we have to have the capacity of going past the rhetoric and overlooking the slights and finding a way to bring people together. That's the only way we can stop a widening war."



Hear the full interview or read a transcript at http://www.democracynow.org

[dweller]

74. one more obligatory

:kick:

since this will never make it to the top of the Greatest page, it was removed from there.

:shrug:


dp

[Theyareallthesame]

76. Is he running again?

[The Sushi Bandit]

80. He has a re-election for congress to win first

then I am sure he will make a run for the white house again.

He is a wonderfull man!

[The Sushi Bandit]

79. Kucinich joins Woolsey in call for Repeal of President's Iraq War Powers

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/13308

CONGRESSWOMAN WOOLSEY CALLS FOR REPEAL OF PRESIDENT'S IRAQ WAR POWERS
- Says Congress never authorized an occupation of Iraq -

Washington, D.C. - One of the most outspoken critics of the war in Iraq, Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey (D-Petaluma) today introduced H.R. 5878, legislation that would repeal the President's War Powers for the Iraq War. While the Congress authorized President Bush to wage war against Iraq in 2002, the original authorization did not anticipate an open-ended U.S. military campaign against Iraq, or the occupation that currently exists.

"Six weeks after we invaded Iraq, President Bush stood aboard an aircraft carrier before a banner that read 'Mission Accomplished,' declaring that 'major combat operations in Iraq are over,' Woolsey said. "From that moment on, we were no longer fighting a war, but rather participating in an occupation. You can not win an occupation!"

Not only did Congress not authorize the long-term occupation of Iraq, but our troops' presence is contributing to the state of civil war that exists in the country. According to the United Nations, the violence in Iraq is increasing, with an average of 100 Iraqis dying every day.

"Rescinding the President's War Powers in Iraq is the least that we can do for our troops, and for their families who anxiously await their return," Woolsey said. "With over 2,550 brave men and women having given their lives, and thousands seriously wounded, how many more must die before we put an end to this madness?

"By repealing the Iraq War Powers, Congress would resume its Constitutional role overseeing the use of military force, and would reassert its authority by bringing our troops home."

Woolsey was joined by 18 other original co-sponsors of the legislation, in no particular order they include: Barbara Lee (D-CA); Dennis Kucinich (D-OH); Maxine Waters (D-CA); Maurice Hinchey (D-NY); James Moran (D-VA); Major Owens (D-NY); Cynthia McKinney (D-GA); Fortney "Pete" Stark (D-CA); Bob Filner (D-CA); Julia Carson (D-IN); Chaka Fattah (D-PA); Carolyn Kilpatrick (D - MI); Marty Meehan (D-MA); Donald Payne (D-NJ); Jose Serrano (D-NY); Danny Davis (D-IL); David Wu (D-OR) and Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX).

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

81. No Thanks On Both Counts.

Both are great at what they do but are best served remaining in where they are. I respect John Conyers and how he's pushed our causes with all the respect I can muster, but I think he needs to be where he is, especially if we take back control of congress. I couldn't see him being VP in a million years.

[The Sushi Bandit]

82. Ouch!

I see your point but America needs to see this team leading a Progressive America

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

83. Can't Argue With That, Just Not As 'THE' Leaders.

I think there needs to be others in the top positions, though I must admit I'm undecided on who that would be at this point. I do, however, think that both Kucinich and Conyers will and should still play an integral and vocal part in the going forward leadership of Progressive ideals within the Democratic party.

[The Sushi Bandit]

84. So would you support a Gore/Kucinich ticket?

[The Sushi Bandit]

85. Kucinich Talks About His Middle East Cease&#8209;Fire Resolution

As the third week of Israeli attacks on Lebanon began, Congressman Kucinich appeared Wednesday morning on Democracy Now!, where Host Amy Goodman asked him about H. Con. Res. 450.

"It calls upon the President to seek an immediate cessation of the violence, to have the United States lead the way towards multiparty talks without any preconditions."

When asked about support for the resolution, Kucinich said, "Well, there's a couple dozen right now ... I’m hopeful that as the American public continue to watch, aghast at the violence that is occurring both in the Palestinian areas as well as throughout Lebanon, as well as the attacks that are continuing on Israel, that people all over will say, 'Look, it's time for the US to step in and say, "Stop this." Let's bring everyone together. Let's in the short term stop the violence; in the long term, bring about a negotiated settlement involving all parties.' "

Asked about the Israel shelling in South Lebanon that killed four U.N. peacekeepers, Kucinich responded, "I’m condemning the loss of life anywhere. There's a lot of innocent people being killed ... I just hope an investigation will not show that this was deliberate ... whether it was deliberate or accidental, the effect is the same: the loss of life of people who are trying to be in the service of peace.

"This shows you how urgent it is for the United States to change its course, to call for an immediate cessation of violence, to bring all the parties together, without preconditions, and such multiparty talks will be the path towards a long-term resolution. The US must recognize that we have to talk to one another ...

"You know, Abraham Lincoln gave a speech in his second inaugural that I think is a template for diplomacy and dialogue. He said, "With malice towards none, with charity for all." I mean, we have to have the capacity of going past the rhetoric and overlooking the slights and finding a way to bring people together. That's the only way we can stop a widening war."