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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 12:57 PM
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Forward's Goldberg: "Why is the Israeli side getting equal time?"
Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 12:57 PM by BurtWorm
JJ Goldberg, editor of the Jewish Forward, on WNYC's On the Media:

http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/transcripts_072106_a.html

BROOKE GLADSTONE: So let's talk about the American coverage. In general, how would you characterize it?

J.J. GOLDBERG: I think at the moment, the American press is attempting to be scrupulously balanced — X number of bombs here, X number of rockets there, a story about a family that suffered losses in Lebanon, a story about a family that suffered losses in Israel. But when you look at the death tolls, you have to ask why is the balance so scrupulous?

As we're speaking today — it's Thursday — there were about 300 deaths on the Lebanese side. Almost all of them, except for a dozen or so, were civilians. On the Israeli side, you had about 26 or 28 deaths, just over half were civilians, so that there's an imbalance in the number of losses.

And if you're simply looking at victimization and the human casualties, you would have to ask why is the Israeli side getting equal time?
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:00 PM
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1. Good Question
anyone want to answer?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:36 PM
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12. Why guess, when Goldberg provides his own.
It's undoubtedly what he had in mind when he asked the question, and is just a click away.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 02:03 PM
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15. Goldberg is excellent at summarizing the nature of this beast
This beast being bias in favor of Israel in the US media. He's also excellent at explaining the bias toward the Paelstinians and Arabs on the European left.
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 02:12 PM
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17. It's always been this way with US media.
which partly explains why things are still the way they are in Israel/Palestine. ignorance.

sunlight is not allowed on this topic. Not even on these forums, unfortunately.
There was an informative post of the history of I/P on GD yesterday. Contributors included Chomsky, Said, etc., etc., a real eye opener of the chronology, quotes, etc.

It was thrown into the I/P forum, then locked because it didn't conform to I/P forum rules (but orginated in GD when at the time Israel topic names were allowed without using a media headline.

you just gotta wonder.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 02:21 PM
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18. I printed out the booklet and have been reading it the past couple of days
Tariq Ali's "The Clash of Fundamentalisms" also has an excellent honest history of the region in the 20th Century.

Welcome to DU. :toast:
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:05 PM
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2. Because they're the "good guys"
Unlike those shifty towelheads.
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:07 PM
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3. Should wars really be fought with matched casualties?
Isn't that a recipe for endless attrition? In a battle of attrition, Israel will lose.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:09 PM
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4. God forbid Israel lose a war of terrorist aggression.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:14 PM
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5. So the US should be having a lot more deaths in Iraq?
:wtf:
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:16 PM
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6. Indeed. WTF?
I don't understand this idea that each side should suffer equal casualties in order for a war to be fair.

Are they saying that if Hezbollah fires a rocket at Israel, Israel should only fire one back at that position?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:17 PM
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7. Is Israel at war with Hezbollah or Lebanon?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:22 PM
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9. They are at war with the former, who operate as a militia within the state
of the latter.
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:23 PM
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10. They're at war with militants in Lebanon.
I'd say that puts Lebanon in the direct line of fire, wouldn't you?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:56 PM
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14. The amount of casualties Lebanon has suffered is disproportionate
to the amount Israel has suffered--and it isn't even Lebanon that is at war with Israel. It's as though the US were killing scores and scores of Canadians trying to hit Qaeda cells in Quebec.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:23 PM
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11. Ah, but don't you know that the terms are interchangeable?
Lebanon or Lebanese equals Hezbollah for far too many people, even some posters here. :eyes:
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:22 PM
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8. Because the death of an innocent is the death of an innocent, period
It matters not what side of an artificial geo-political boundary one person resided, their death is just as much a tragedy as any other. Though personally I'd like to see less emphasis on artifical things such as nationality and more emphasis on the fact that a human being's life was taken. Someone's mother, father, brother, sister, or child died. Period.

Sorry, but the article cited in the OP is just as obnoxious as the posters here who decry lamentations of Lebanese deaths with reminders that Isaraelis are being killed too.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:37 PM
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13. Let's give Mr. Goldberg some credit here.
:applause:
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gula Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 02:03 PM
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16. Credit for what ?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 02:24 PM
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19. Why? I am familiar with all that.
Goldberg gives a reasoned and dispassionate analysis, something sadly lacking most of the time.
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