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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:12 PM
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my grandson asks "who started this fire?"
we all have a knowing that things will escalate and that peace is not the objective. in five years oil has gone from $27 a barrel to almost $80 so there is indeed a financial perspective but aside from that, what pissed off 19 men enough to give their lives at WTC? we hold Saddam on trial for the deaths of 123 people he accused of an assassination plot, but have killed over 100,000 civilians since WTC. we expedite weapons deliveries to Israel and caution them to practice restraint as we watch Lebanon in phosphorous hell. msm has journalists standing near missile launchers and we vicariously now know the "sounds" of war. 24/7 coverage with subliminal messages that Syria and Iran are responsible for the bloodshed.
I'm so blessed. my children are healthy and kind, but there is a dull ache in my heart and soul for i feel responsible for this madness, this carnage. my grandson Tanner thinks I'm wise, but I'm in my room weeping with no answer and little hope.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:18 PM
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1. I have the answer for those who say that the Iraq war wasn't
"for oil":

Business section of the Akron Beacon Journal, Tuesday through Saturday.

Commodities.

Today:

North Sea Brent $ per bbl fob: $72.62
West Texas Intermed $ per bbl fob: $73.41
Alaska No. Slope del. West Coast: $72.10

all of the above are NOT middle eastern oil, I believe. But, they are still charging close to the oil/barrel price always quoted on the news.
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Slaughtermeyer Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:19 PM
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2. The British started it
Tell him the British started it when they took over Palestine in 1918 and didn't give it independence so that it could set its own immigration policy.

Imagine what would have happened if the British in 1770 said that the Indians had a raw deal from European colonists and the smallpox holocaust and that Massachusetts would become an Indian state with its own laws and religion and that Indians from all over the continent were entitled to go there.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 02:08 PM
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3. Then the indians would be much better off than they are now.
So what?
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Slaughtermeyer Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 02:20 PM
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4. Indians would not be better off
The colonists from Massachusetts and the other colonies would have started a war to make sure an Indian state in Massachusetts would not last.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:50 PM
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5. Of course - kill all the bastards. I should have seen that coming.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:13 PM
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7. Sure slaughter them. That's the mentality of the repuke who has
barfed in his own war boots. War boots are the only ones that fit in any conversation. Wear 'em till they stink baby. Wear 'em till they stink.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:08 PM
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6. Who started it?
Where does the wind begin to blow? Before Man was, War waited, waited patiently for its ultimate practitioner.

Sorry to your grandson; we made some half-hearted attempts to end war and learn a new way of resolving our differences. When I see what happened in South Africa, I'm heartened. When I consider what happened in Rwanda, I'm discouraged. We maybe made some baby steps along the way to a better future. It's up to him and his generation to go a little farther. We were too weak to put down our weapons. Perhaps he and his people will be stronger.
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