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slater71 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:24 PM
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Howard Fineman just said.
Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 06:25 PM by slater71
"I have never seen George Bush look like this in the eight years I covered him. He looked like a defeated man." He is on Hardball now. And added that he looked like he was not in charge.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:25 PM
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1. "Looking" ain't good enough.
I want him to really be there.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:25 PM
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2. Ooops, the White House doc needs to up the Monkey's meds NT
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:27 PM
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3. I saw that too. My jaw dropped.
And I LOVE IT!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:28 PM
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4. I heard that! Even the other guest and Tweety agreed with him!
At the very end of the discussion, Howard & Tweety said "Don't just listen to what these leaders say, but watch what they do, their body language, their movements."

That was quite a segment!
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:29 PM
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5. I think Olmert is in charge.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:10 PM
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16. I Think Destiny Is In Charge
Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 08:14 PM by loindelrio
Never, never, never believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter. The statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events.

- Sir Winston Churchill

On Edit:

I mean, lets face it. We are sending troops in Baghdad. I think there is little chance that this can end any way but badly.

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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:58 PM
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27. Hope it's not another Alamo n/t
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:30 PM
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6. I just saw a recent photo of * on the cover of 'Senior Voice"
Don't ask me why it was sent to me,(as I'm only 55) but his nose is very red, a drinkers nose.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:30 PM
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7. What happened to Tweets? He's changed his tune completely
Within a few days I think.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:21 PM
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17. He put his finger up to the wind
and decided to cross the political street. It's all about the numbers for Chris Matthews, not the wrong or the right of the matter.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:32 PM
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8. You've gotta think that when billions of people hate you, the vibe
has to have an effect after a while, even on the brain dead.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:35 PM
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9. He could be, in sheer numbers, the most villified person in history
That would have to be a heavy weight.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:38 PM
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10. I want us to have a real president in charge
enough of these, "I really rather ride my bike" guys. The White House is not a personal
gym, let's get someone in there like FDR who can handle what's been messed up by
the Decider. You say that's impossible, I say, It is possible, everybody, tell what
you know, about 9-11, about Iraq, about wiretapping, about the dirty elections, about
secret prisons, the non hunt for Osama, leak everything, buy those free phones with no contract, call overseas journalists but get the truth out.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:01 PM
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11. What was the context?

I'll guess the "good news" charade on Iraq he and Maliki are trying to pull.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:06 PM
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12. Tweety just closed the show by pushing D-Eliot Engel (?)
over the point that Presidents always have worn two hats....support Israel, but also being a broker. He said Bush has only worn one hat.

I never watch Tweety, but I had to do a silent "hurrah"--the whole concept of being an "honest broker" has been tossed and nobody seems to care.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:51 PM
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13. Fineman's Quote Makes Me Think That The Current Middle East
crisis was not planned by the Bushies.

I thought maybe this was all in the works for the November Elections.

Maybe so.

Or maybe, as Fineman alludes to, this whole thing is spiraling out of control and these retards don't know what to do.

I think Bush has a bigger problem than Iraq, now.

Just my two cents.



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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:08 PM
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15. Bush's comments last week he made when the mic was left on
Indicate that he is pissed about the situation.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:06 PM
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14. howard looked intense and worried, and i believe he said "10"
years
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:23 PM
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19. Bush is falling apart
I've said it before & I'll say it again. His defenses are disintegrating & he's heading for a full-blown mental breakdown.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:32 PM
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22. You're right about the "10" years
Fineman followed him in Texas when he ran for Governor.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:22 PM
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18. When the fuck did he look like he was in charge of anything???!! n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:27 PM
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20. Beer Bong Olympics at the frat - 1968
He rocked, man.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:30 PM
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21. I stand corrected. n/t
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:38 PM
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23. Who is Howard Fineman?
I never heard of him.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:41 PM
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25. Newsweek reporter
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:42 PM
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26. Thanks.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:40 PM
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24. Howie, it's hard work to fuck up a nation, let alone the whole world.
It's hard work, real hard work.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 10:10 PM
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28. Were they talking about after the meeting with Maliki?
I noticed exactly the same thing, as I have posted elsewhere. I've never seen him look like that. Devasted and beaten is the only words I can think of to describe it.
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