I'll tell you what I can't understand.

[brmdp3123]

So many of the voices that have condemned Israel in these forums for killing civilians in Lebanon (which I believe to be unintentional and you can't prove otherwise) have praised today's verdict in the Andrea Yates case. She coldly and methodically murdered her children. How in the hell could a jury find her not guilty. I don't care if she is crazy (and I don't think she is), she does not deserve to draw another breath.

I don't understand the verdict, and I don't understand a voice that would condemn accidental killing while forgiving intentional murder of children.

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[brmdp3123]

4. What the hell are you talking about?

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[LSK]

13. where do I get a gig like that?

[LostinVA]

11. giggle

[Monkeyman]

2. She heard a voice from God sounds like Bush

No child murder should ever walk the streets again

[jobycom]

3. Interesting definition of accidental

Deliberately bombing a place where civilians live while keeping your fingers crossed that none of the bombs hits one is not my definition of accidental. As for Andrea Yates, she stood before a jury. Will those running Israel ever do so? Is so, I'll be satisfied with whatever verdict is reached.

[LSK]

5. you drop a bomb on a city and its not intentional??????????

Does Israel have "magic bombs" that do a background check on everyone in the building before exploding????????

:wtf:

[lonestarnot]

6. bwwwwaaaaaa

:rofl:

[MichiganVote]

7. Simple.

It doesn't take an expert to recognize that innocent civilians are being killed in Lebanon by virtue of Israeli aggression.

It does take experts and a jury to weigh testimony about insanity and murder.

Surely you are neither an expert on insanity or a member of the jury that found Andrea Yates innocent by reason of insanity.

[Jim Sagle]

14. It doesn't take an expert, it takes a bozo.

Israeli response is not aggression. Next!

[MichiganVote]

16. Well, the last I heard, people who are bombed aren't having

a birthday party.

[Baselinereality]

27. I Got Bombed At A Birthday Party Once...

I puked up blue icing and you do NOT want to know what I did with those candles, although it gave me a whole new appreciation for why turning 30 can be so painful.

Needless to say, I'm looking forward to my 40th with great anticipation...

[MichiganVote]

28. Needless to say.....you're off topic

[Baselinereality]

31. Why Don't People Who Say "Needless To Say" EVER

follow their own advice?

[MichiganVote]

32. I don't know....but ask this guy

"Needless to say, I'm looking forward to my 40th with great anticipation..."

[Baselinereality]

34. Obviously My Joke Didn't Resonate With You...

But I understand. You're from Michigan.

And I'm not a guy.

(Geez. You make ONE joke about bombs during a war...)

[boston bean]

38. I thought you were pretty funny. For whatever that's worth..... nt

[Baselinereality]

40. Well, Thank You!

I think your little compliment will be enough to carry me off to sleep with a smile on my face. Now, if I can just figure out how to bookmark your comment so that I can refer to it when the night terrors force me awake screaming and sweating!

I'm kidding, of course.

The Ambien keeps those terrors pushed way down where they belong.

But, seriously, no.

I am going to sleep now, though.

Here's to seeing you the next time around. I lived near Boston for five years starting in 1998 and I miss it terribly, so it's nice to see a little reminder of MA every now and then. As long as that reminder is not a chunk of the Big Dig.

(And while it's not mandatory that you compliment me every time you see me, it would certainly be appreciated and highly recommended.)

[Jim Sagle]

36. I'm looking forward to a 40-oz beer.

:beer:

[Dead_Parrot]

49. Well, it's funnier than the OP

the OP was a joke, right?

[TahitiNut]

23. Oh? Strange ...

ag·gres·sion n.
Hostile or destructive behavior or actions.

ag·gres·sion noun
: hostile, injurious, or destructive behavior or outlook especially when caused by frustration

Main Entry: aggression
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: attack
Synonyms: assailment, assault, blitz, dirty deed, encroachment, injury, invasion, offense, offensive, onset, onslaught, push, raid
Antonyms: meekness

Main Entry: aggression
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: hostility
Synonyms: aggressiveness, antagonism, belligerence, combativeness, destructiveness, dirty deed, fight, hostility, pugnacity, push
Antonyms: resistance


I guess the IDF is engaged in meekness and resistance. :eyes:

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[Dead_Parrot]

50. I hate to ask...

but did someone really say that? I've seen it a couple of times...
:shrug:

[Binka]

52. It Is His Trademark Remark

It is a very bizarre phenomena indeed.

[Dead_Parrot]

54. weird.

"and elad said: 'let there be an ignore button', and he saw the ignore button, and that it was good"

[treestar]

9. The insanity defense does not amount to that

Your ignorance of the law is amazing. Learn about the insanity defense. Next.

[LostinVA]

10. She didn't coldly kill her kids, because she's not a sociopath

She had severe PSYCHOSIS. Know what that is? Apparently not, or you never would have written the above. Understand? This is a MEDICAL ILLNESS. Would you say this about someone with a physical illness that temporarily made them not able to control their actions? Hell fucking no. No difference. This isn't opinion,. it's fact.

You are confusing personality disorders with mental illness. This is like confusing fire and ice.

Go educate yourself about mental illness before you condemn a sick woman. Your statement is literally nothing to be proud of... it's very, very sad. The ignorance in this country astounds me. ASTOUNDS ME.

[DireStrike]

12. Prepare to also catch flak about the death penalty

Life in prison would suffice. It's not as if people are calling for the death of IDF commanders or anything.

[Sherman A1]

15. Silly question

Just what do the two issues have to do with one another? Aside from people's lives ending and it being discussed, there is no relationship that I can fathom.

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[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. So, you would "coldly and methodically" have the state murder her?

The irony is intentional.

[jerry611]

20. Death penalty was not an option....it was life in prison

Although I seriously doubt any judge in their right mind will ever let her see the light of day again.

She'll be in a mental facility for the rest of her life.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

21. The OP said that "she doesn't deserve to draw another breath"

Which is what I was referring to.

[Baselinereality]

19. I'll Tell You What I Can't Understand, Too...

The point of that television show "Lost."

Oh, that and your asinine comparison between Israel and Andrea Yates!!

If you cannot separate, in your mind, deliberate, pre-emptive military intervention and acute schizophrenia brought on by post-partum depression and a chemical imbalance, then you should remove yourself from the public discussion, my friend.

BUT!

If you're trying to suggest that, like Andrea Yates, the entire country of Israel must be out of its friggin' mind, then we might be able to bandy that topic around a bit.

Let's try to bring back the ability to parse complex subjects, though, mmkay? Let's give nuanced thought a chance again in this country.

[laura888]

22. LOL. Your post cracked me up. Thanks!

[Baselinereality]

24. You're Welcome, Lady

[Ms. Clio]

43. hey

welcome to DU.

[Baselinereality]

55. Thank You Very Much!

[rug]

25. The difference is she is insane, the leaders of the IDF are sane.

[TahitiNut]

26. Andrea Yates' kids were terrorists and

... Israel is suffering from post-partum psychosis. See how easy that was? :dunce:

[MichiganVote]

30. :) I like it. Send it over to freeperville.

[Baselinereality]

29. Helloooo....Brilliant Idea, Line One....

Has it occurred to anyone else besides me that we should...(wait for it)...

SEND ANDREA YATES TO LEBANON TO METHODICALLY DROWN MEMBERS OF HEZBOLLAH ONE BY ONE!!

My God why doesn't the U.S. government just swoop in and capture this great mind o' mine?

(For those of you reading this without your sense of humor, please forgive my morbid, tasteless joke, by the way. May her five children rest in peace, amen. (And I'm glad that she was found not guilty by reason of insanity.) (But I still think the government should consider using her as a drowning cyborg.) (It could be a bargaining chip, or a condition of an early release program.))

[Generator]

33. Christ on a crutch I read all the damn her to hell threads

back when I was on a "moms who think" site a few years ago. Yes, that is an oxymoron. I still shiver at the thought of those women. Anyway, this is the defacto Republican,right wing point of few. No understanding of mental illness. But that kind always understands the need for war. What Israel is doing is up for debate. Yates was nuts. It's called compassion. And you get to be the murderer of her (the state is your proxy)-you want to murder her, what does that make you? Oh yeah, a cold methodical killer.

There is nothing to forgive. She can't be forgiven. She was insane.

Life isn't an award to those you think that deserve it, anyway. That would make you GOD.

[Maestro]

35. She was mentally ill

and it was obvious. And she is not free. She will receive help in a mental institution.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

37. The OP is unreal

:eyes:

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[Viva_La_Revolution]

41. Wedding crashers = lonely people with no life...

Thread trolls = lonely people with no life

Amazing. Ain't the internets a wonderful invention?


:rofl:

[Ms. Clio]

42. wow

so glad you weren't on the jury. And that the law, even in Texas, is far more enlightened.

[Orangepeel]

44. it all comes down to beliefs, doesn't it?

You believe that the killing of civilians is unintentional but that Yeats acted coldly and methodically. Therefore, you excuse the first and condemn the second. Others believe that the decision to drop bombs on residential areas in Lebanon was cold and calculated but that Yeats really did think God told her to do what she did.

I don't understand what you find so hard to understand (even though my own beliefs don't fall squarely into either of these viewpoints)

[Sparkly]

45. Wow -- "praising," "deserving," "forgiving..."

This is the third time today I've explained why I was glad the jury found her not guilty by reason of insanity. I thought it was obvious!

It was recognition of psychosis as a mental illness meeting the legal standard of insanity. That is very important.

I'm sorry you don't believe she's crazy, but experts agree she is. She has a history of psychosis, and if you know anything about that, it is a real separation from reality.

It's not about "forgiving" -- it's about recognizing reality.

[NMMNG]

46. Andrea Yates is mentally ill

I work with people who have mental illnesses and I know that it is possible for a person who is having a psychotic break to harm themselves or others when normally they would do no such thing. While the average person with mental illness is more likely to be harmed by others than be harmful to others, it is a stereotype that people feign MI to get out of jail time. The reality is that if someone gets hospitalized rather than sent to jail they could very well be there for far longer than they would have been in jail. Therefore pleading insanity to get out of jail time is a very risky thing to do. It's only because of TV shows that people think defendants do it all of the time.

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[Binka]

53. True Dat!

Thanks for the hug it has been an awful week.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

56. If the entire Israeli electorate was suffering from mental health problems

Then I would be willing to forgive what they are doing in Lebanon. However, sarcasm aside it is clear that the Israeli government knows what it is doing and is responsible for its actions, whereas the jury decided (and I have no reason to believe them wrong) that Andrea Yates didn't and wasn't.

[Moderator]

57. locking....

This is flamebait.