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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 02:14 PM
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Most Iraqis didn't know who or what they were voting for
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http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2005/01/21/iraq10058.htm

Iraqi Elections: Human Rights Concerns


Questions and Answers from Human Rights Watch

On January 30, 2005, Iraq is scheduled to hold elections for twenty government bodies, including a Transitional National Assembly. But the U.N.-assisted elections are taking place under conditions of extreme insecurity and political turmoil that will make it all but impossible for every eligible voter to freely make a choice. In human rights terms, voters in many areas face a quandary: they must risk their lives to participate in the elections, or forgo the historic chance to cast their ballot.


What makes an election “free and fair”?

An election is “free” when it reflects the full expression of the political will of the people concerned. Freedom in this sense involves the ability to participate in the political process without intimidation, coercion, discrimination, or the abridgment of the rights to associate with others, to assemble, and to receive or impart information. The “fairness” of an election refers to the right to vote on the basis of equality, non-discrimination, and universality. No portion of the electorate should be arbitrarily disqualified, or have their votes given extra weight.


Who is organizing the elections?

The elections are organized by the Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq (IECI), established by thef U.S.-run Coalition Provisional Authority in May 2004. The Commission is run by a nine-member Board of Commissioners, which includes seven voting members who are Iraqi citizens, and two non-voting members.5 The two non-voting members are the chief electoral officer, an Iraqi, and an international expert appointed by the United Nations (U.N.).6 Thirty other U.N. election specialists are providing technical expertise.


Are voters well educated about the elections?

Despite education campaigns by the Electoral Commission and nongovernmental organizations, press reports suggest a mixed level of understanding among Iraqis about the elections. According to one poll conducted by the International Republican Institute, a U.S. Congress-funded group, forty-one percent of respondents in November-December 2004 said the elections were for a president, compared to twenty-eight percent who properly said it was for the Transitional National Assembly. Thirteen percent of the respondents did not know what the election was for at all.

Poor security compounds the problem. Most political parties and coalitions have not announced the names of candidates, except for the prominent individuals on the top of their lists. Voters are therefore obliged to vote for parties and other groups without knowing the people who will fill the assembly seats.
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 02:23 PM
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1. Most Republicans don't know who or what they are voting for.
They just see the "R" and push the button, 'cause "R" stands for moral values.
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 02:53 PM
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2. What about the December 2005 elections?
These elections superseded the January 2005 elections.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 02:57 PM
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3. Why you think it was different?
Same people running that election as this one. Bush's minions.

Don
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:09 PM
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5. Iraqis may have been more aware of the issues and parties running
I recall there was a high turnout as well.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 04:55 PM
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8. What kinds of issues are the Iraqis worried about do you think?
Getting enough to eat so they don't starve to death?

Trying not to get aired out by the occupation forces and mercenaries?

Attempting to stay out of the way of the death squads running around with abandon?

Issues?

Don
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 05:12 PM
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9. Probably those...of course
The Iraqi people would know what their concerns are.

What is interesting is the SCIRI - Dawa Party alliance still came in first again. The American favorite, Allawi and his party, got in the neighbourhood of 10% of the vote.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 02:57 PM
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4. Was Maliki chosen by the people or by the Iraqi Assembly ?
Didn't they kick out the other guy and isn't Maliki about the third PM since their "purple fingers"? Why didn't they like the previous Prime Minister? Does anyone recall? Personally, I don't think he was acceptable to the American government.
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:12 PM
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6. The last guy - Jaffari - was too close to al-Sadr
plus, he couldn't form a government. I think the National Assembly appoints the President. The President appoints the PM and this appointment is comfirmed by the National Assembly.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:29 PM
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7. Remember if it was up to W they would have never had them at all
First they were going to turn Iraq over to Chalabi within six months. Then Bremer was going to be MacArthur in Baghdad for years. Then on November 15, 2003, Bremer announced a plan to have council-based elections in May of 2004. The US and the UK had somehow massaged into being provincial and municipal governing councils, the members of which were pro-American. Bremer was going to restrict the electorate to this small, elite group.

Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani immediately gave a fatwa denouncing this plan and demanding free elections mandated by a UN Security Council resolution. Bush was reportedly "extremely offended" at these two demands and opposed Sistani. Bremer got his appointed Interim Governing Council to go along in fighting Sistani. Sistani then brought thousands of protesters into the streets in January of 2004, demanding free elections. Soon thereafter, Bush caved and gave the ayatollah everything he demanded. Except that he was apparently afraid that open, non-manipulated elections in Iraq might become a factor in the US presidential campaign, so he got the elections postponed to January 2005. This enormous delay allowed the country to fall into much worse chaos, and Sistani is still bitter that the Americans didn't hold the elections last May. The US objected that they couldn't use UN food ration cards for registration, as Sistani suggested. But in the end that is exactly what they did.

So if it had been up to Bush, Iraq would have been a soft dictatorship under Chalabi, or would have had stage-managed elections with an electorate consisting of a handful of pro-American notables. It was Sistani and the major Shiite parties that demanded free and open elections and a UNSC resolution. They did their job and got what they wanted. But the Americans have been unable to provide them the requisite security for truly aboveboard democratic elections.

http://www.juancole.com/2005/01/mixed-story-im-just-appalled-by.html
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