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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:13 AM
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Crack in the Bush/Blair Alliance? Live Press Conference coming up...
Blair calling for a cease fire? Bush calling for pouring gas on the fire?

Could this be the end of a beautiful thing?

I can't wait to see Tony trying to make sense of bush's blitherings.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:14 AM
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1. Nah, Blair's lips will most probably be firmly planted on
dimson's tushy, same as it ever was.:silly:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:16 AM
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2. The monkey and poodle show.
The only crack is the crack W is smoking.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:22 AM
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3. Hope so
But realistically, I'm not expecting it.

Blair has been told numerous times that his blind allegiance to Chimpy McCokespoon is wildly unpopular. The Guardian ran a poll a few days ago which showed overwhelming numbers wanted him to put some distance between himself and W but he'll almost certainly ignore it. What baffles me is that Blair is not normally a stupid man, he must realise what this is doing to his reputation. The only thing I can assume is that it comes from a shared religious vision.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:26 AM
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4. Blair is not stupid, and that always bothered me too...
and you know he gets an earful from his wife about it.

I think, quite frankly, that he knows his place in the Carlyle Group is set for when he is finally out of it. He has sold out his base, knowing they won't go for Tories or Lib Dems, and is setting his family up for generations at the expense of everyone else. It is typical Machiavellian theory.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:53 PM
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27. That's one option
and to be honest, that makes as much sense as any other. He didn't sell me out because I've been a member of the Lib Dems since I was old enough to vote and I never liked the smarmy git anyway. Does make me wonder who'll take over when he retires sometime before the next election. You know that Gordon Brown is no great lover of the Repub's and his adherance to fiscal discipline would be horrified at W's defecit spending.

Must be said, Blair has been extraordinarily lucky to have a main opposition party that was determined to rip itself apart. If the Tories had gotten their act together prior to the last election, Blair would have been toast.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:35 AM
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5. up now, bush makes microphone joke
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:36 AM
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6. Good cop, Bad cop. Both of them are filthpigs.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:41 AM
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7. You know, for someone who doesn't think much of the UN, Bush sure
does like to use UN resolutions as the basis for his actions. The UN is irrelevant - unless I can use one of their resolutions to further my plans kind of thing.

his speech reminded me of his UN resolution talking point in the lead up to his illegal invasion of Iraq
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:47 AM
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8. Yep
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 11:48 AM by malaise
Bottom line - Bush Blair and Olmert have been forced to back down as a result of global public outcry. It's the first time Dumbya mentioned Israel's withdrawal. They can finesse it any which way they fugging like. Note neither has condemned Israel for the UN attack.

add. Now for the questions.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:59 AM
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12. it's the save face measure...but I also think Bush wanted to be
able to maintain control - even if it's just the appearance of control....so He...and his side-kick, Blair - look in charge...and not the UN or other nations. Hence the "resolution circulating around Washington and London" from the article earlier. It will be the Bush Regime's proposals Condi will present...and even if it is basically the same as other proposals, it will still be coming from the "leaders" in the (sham) war on terror (Bush/Blair)...."here we come to save the day!" (cue Mighty Mouse theme)

I think we can rely on there being more going on behind the words being spoken.

And I'm not entirely sure that the Bush Regime wasn't going to "step in" and look to do an "about face" at a time when it benefitted them in some way. If the thinking was "we need the US to get in on this - to demand a cease fire" then that's a bargaining chip...so if you "need" me (Bush) as President to do this...then what are you...(everyone else) going to give me (Bush)


but maybe I'm just too distrustful of anything involving Bush (if that's possible)


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:49 AM
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9. He totally ignored UN when they said to shut down Guantanamo.
Selective Irrelevency.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:00 PM
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13. "Selective Irrelevency". Precisely
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:52 AM
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10. Hamas is trying to stop the spread of Democracy in Palestine?
That's what I think Bush just said. Wasn't Hamas lawfully elected pursuant to democratic elections?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:54 AM
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11. Damn that Brit just bowled a zinger
this is good. Answer the fugging question Bush.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:04 PM
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14. Cube rats need answers please
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:29 PM
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23. Hahahaahhaha
He means the Wall of democracy surrounding their camps. :D
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:05 PM
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15. the message? give up your nook yuller weapons Syria, I mean Iran.
bush actually said that
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:06 PM
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16. OMFG
Wasn't that classic? Neither has nukes.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:07 PM
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17. The man is crazy ! I just can't watch
please let us know what is happening.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:09 PM
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18. He is fugging crazy
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 12:10 PM by malaise
He says America's foreign policy is chasing down terrorists and bringing them to justice and giving them democracy - this fugger has killed over 250,000 Iraqis.

This is one sick MF.

He's defeating the ideology of hate with one of slaughter.
sp. add.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:24 PM
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22. "Uh, uh, we gotta get to the root cause" says the Chimp. Howzabout
you're the root cause of the problem, Mr. President?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:21 PM
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21. It's difficult to report because the Rambler in Chief is so incoherent.
That's why he called for Blair to help him through it.

Btw, most of what is said is accompanied by the usual "9/11 changed everything" mantra.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:10 PM
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19. Could he possibly (Bush) be any more inane?
"I know there are people who do not think freedom and democracy can overcome hate...that people don't think other people, other than people in England and America... want to be free"
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 01:08 PM
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24. Oh, please tell me
that he didn't REALLY say something that stupid! Is that a direct quote?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 01:10 PM
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25. He did - though I left out some of his statements along the same line
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 01:17 PM by Solly Mack
It was hard to hear ...if you know what I mean.

He then went on to repeat himself and say "... liberty and justice can overcome the ideology of hate" in regards to the same question

and that question was?

I'm paraphrasing

Due to the miscalculation (by Bush) about the development and actions in Iraq, and Arab feeling turning against Us/Israel actions...Has America lost clout in this issue?
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 01:44 PM
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26. I was afraid of that
It's humiliating to realize that this man is considered the leader of the free world. What he says doesn't mean anything, and there are times when I can't figure out what he was even trying to say. The example you cited, "...liberty and justice can overcome the ideology of hate" is not an answer to the question the reporter asked.

If he were an ordinary person, not the son of wealth, he would be considered insane. He simply could not function in a world where there was no vast staff cleaning up his mistakes, and no daddy to bail him out every time he screwed up.

A couple of years ago my husband turned to me after Bush had spoken in a brief speech, and asked me what the hell he had just said. I told my husband, truthfully, that I had no idea. It's one thing to say something I disagree with, but quite another to say something that is completely devoid of meaning or context.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:14 PM
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20. "the terrorists say"don't come and bother us because we will kill you'".
What the hell is that idiot talking about? No wonder he has Blair with him at this press conference.
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