Unspoken Fact: No Israelis Killed by Hezbollah 01/2001-07/2006

[leveymg]

According to The Anti-Defamation League, a strongly pro-Israel organization, Hezbollah did not kill a single person inside Israel during the five years before the invasion of Lebanon three weeks ago.

An ADL publication, "Major Terrorist Attacks in Israel", summarizes each fatal attack going back to 2001. It shows there had been no fatal attacks from within Lebanon during the last five years. All incidents are blamed on Palestinian groups, most of them suicide bombings carried out by Hamas or Al-Aksa Martyr Brigades: http://www.adl.org/Israel/israel_attacks.asp

A quick review shows there were two rocket attacks from Gaza, the more recent being:

June 28, 2004: A Kassam rocket fired by Hamas terrorists in the Gaza Strip struck near a nursery school in the northern Negev town of Sderot, killing an Israeli man and a 4-year old Israeli child.

I think this is the most comprehensive accounting you'll find. Overall, it appears that Hezbollah has not been actively attacking Israel until fighting started a couple weeks ago, but their rocket capabilities are much more lethal than could have been predicted based on recent history.

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MEANWHILE,INSIDE LEBANON


Israel's Unilateral Actions In Lebanon Violated International Law

One hears defenders of the Lebanon invasion cite UN Resolutions 1559 and 1680. Resolution 1559 essentially calls for the disarmament of Hezballah and 1680 for Syria and other outside states to cease the conveyance of arms or other intervention in Lebanon.

Israel has taken it upon itself to try to unilaterally enforce these measures. That in itself is a violation of international law and the UN Charter. Israel also claims that its invasion and bombardment is in self-defense and a measure to locate and free two captured/hostage Israeli Army soldiers. The military actions of Israel, particularly aerial bombardment of infrastructure inside Lebanon, are inappropriate to any sort of rescue operation. Furthermore, the destruction of civilian targets throughout Lebanon are disproportionate to the military response of Hezballah, and constitute collective punishment, which is a war crime.


Most damning, I believe, is the fact that since 2001 until the Israelis started attacking Lebanese targets three weeks ago, there were no attacks on Israel launched from Lebanon by Hezballah resulting in Israeli fatalities That fact seems to have been entirely overlooked by the American media.

Please review the following pro-Israeli source and correct me if that is an inaccurate accounting of fatal attacks on Israel during the period January 2001 until end of June 2006. According to the Anti-Defamation League, there isn't even the suggestion that Hezbollah was involved in any terrorist attacks against Israel except a single incident on January 25, 2002, and none involved rockets. http://www.adl.org/Israel/israel_attacks.asp

[babylonsister]

1. There's the media whores, hard at work as usual. I had no idea;

thanks for informing me.

[burythehatchet]

2. Sorry, just doesn't fit the narrative

must be a self-hater.

[Mandate My Ass]

3. Thank you

I had no idea.

[greyl]

4. Your post is just a bit misleading. Also from the ADL:

Basic Facts You Should Know

Hezbollah

Hezbollah ("Party of G-d") is a terrorist organization, based in Lebanon, whose goal is the destruction of Israel. In that pursuit it has attacked Israeli and Jewish targets worldwide. It is also responsible for infamous attacks against American military installations in Lebanon in the early 1980s.

Hezbollah, a Shi’ite Muslim group, is financed and armed by Iran and enjoys full backing from Syria. Hezbollah was founded with the help of Iranian Revolutionary Guards who traveled to the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon in 1982 to fight Israel following the Israeli incursion into South Lebanon. According to its 1985 platform, Hezbollah advocates the establishment of an "Islamic Republic" in Lebanon. It also states: "The conflict with Israel is viewed as a central concern. This is not only limited to the IDF presence in Lebanon. Rather, the complete destruction of the State of Israel and the establishment of Islamic rule over Jerusalem is an expressed goal."
________________________________

Hezbollah also runs a satellite television network, Al-Manar ("the beacon"), which broadcasts Hezbollah's messages of hate and violence worldwide. Hezbollah owns and operates the station, staffing it with members of Hezbollah and directing its programming and communications. Al-Manar is more than Hezbollah's mouthpiece; it is its tool for incitement to terror against Americans and Israelis. It broadcasts images of Iraqi devastation attributed to the U.S.-led action with voiceovers calling for "death to America," glorifies suicide bombings and calls for the recruitment of Palestinian "martyrs" to kill Jews. Al-Manar appears to be the source of the conspiracy theory that claimed that 4,000 Israelis were absent from their jobs at the World Trade Center on September 11, thereby implying that Israel was in some way behind the attack. The story was posted on its Web site on September 17, 2001 and picked up by extremists around the world.

http://www.adl.org/israel/advocacy/glossary/hezbollah.asp

[leveymg]

6. Not a single fact is contradicted by that extract

Certainly, ADL condemns Hezballah. No surprise there.

[greyl]

23. Ok, I was trying to be nice.

Your OP is very misleading because it only shows a small part of the picture and you cite a "fact", which ADL does not. I think a holistic approach would be more valuable to figuring out how to resolve the conflict, don't you?

Where does ADL say Hezbollah wasn't responsible for Israeli deaths in Israel during those 5 years?

"Since Israel’s unilateral withdrawal from Lebanon in May 2000, Hezbollah has continued to attack Israeli installations"
http://www.adl.org/israel/advocacy/glossary/hezbollah.asp

[Marie26]

32. It really is

Maybe not intentionally so, though. That ADL list is only a short list of "major terrorist attacks." It's not intended to be a comprehensive list of every terrorist attack Israel has sustained, & it isn't a list of all Hizbollah attacks.

[leftofthedial]

101. that does not contradict the OP

[wakeme2008]

5. Unfucking believable....

That for the link to ADL and this information. One would think listening to the MSM and the pro-Israel DUers that Hezbollah was killing people left and right up to the attack on Lebenon by Israel :grr:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. Wow.

All this time I had also been under the impression that there'd been low level border violence for year.

Fucking liars.

[oberliner]

12. low-level border violence

All sourced from wikipedia, so take it as you will:

In 2001 Jordan arrested three Hezbollah members attempting to smuggle Katyusha rockets into the West Bank. Nasrallah responded that "it is a duty to send arms to Palestinians from any possible place

In December 2001 three Hezbollah operatives were caught in Jordan while attempting to bring BM-13 Katyusha rockets into the West Bank. Syed Hassan Nasrallah, secretary general of Hezbollah, responded that "It is every freedom loving peoples right and duty against occupation to send arms to Palestinians from any possible place."

During 2002, 2003 and 2004, the Israeli Security Forces thwarted numerous suicide bombing attacks, some of which Israel claims were planned and funded by Hezbollah and were to have been carried out by Tanzim (Fatah's armed wing) activists. Israeli officials accused Hezbollah of aiding Palestinian political violence and participating in weapon smuggling (

In January 2005, Hezbollah planted five camouflaged “improvised explosive devices” (IEDs), inches on the Israeli side of the border near Zarit, 15 mountainous miles inland from the Mediterranean coast. The Israeli Defense Force (IDF) detected these IEDs and, following procedure, notified UNIFIL. A French UNIFIL engineer duly certified that the devices were indeed IEDs, then “requested” that Hezbollah remove them. Hezbollah, not denying it had planted them, flatly refused, stating that since the mines were (just barely) inside the “Zionist” border, it was up to the “Zionists” to remove them. So the IDF sent in a large armored bulldozer to carry the mines off for disposal. This task required making a sharp 90-degree right turn from an Israeli road onto the narrow border trail where the IEDs were located. Making this sharp right turn, the left front corner of the bulldozer inevitably occupied, for a couple of seconds, about a meter of land on the Lebanese side. During those seconds a Hezbollah fighter directed an anti-tank missile at the narrow, unarmored windshield of the bulldozer. The pinpoint strike, which Israeli sources stated required extraordinary training and skill, killed the bulldozer’s driver, Sgt. Maj. Jan Rotzanski, a 21-year-old Russian immigrant from Herzliya.

On February 9, 2005 Palestinian Authority officials blamed Hezbollah for attempting to derail the recent truce between Israel and Palestine by offering increased funding and bonuses to the militant cells it operates in Israel for any attack they carry out

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

15. Right.

So no actual violence. Except for when Israeli military crossed the border into Lebanon.

[mom cat]

35. And the other examples mentioned the West Bank!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

37. but not violence.

[The Stranger]

49. So they obliterated a country when they without even being threatened?

What about all of the repeated posts about Israel being destroyed? Just mindless support and generalizations, I suppose. Is DU a Progressive web site again?

[Marie26]

58. Please see post #17. nt

[leveymg]

62. These incidents weren't fatal or weren't inside Israel

[Marie26]

67. But you now know

that there were fatal incidents inside Israel, so why dispute this post?

[leveymg]

74. I agree that the title now needs to be changed:

Israeli Losses to Hezbollah 01/01-06/06: Less than 15. Most killed in border skirmishes. Still, a very different picture than what's been presented by most of the media.

[Ms. Clio]

81. since it's from wiki, I'll take it as basically worthless

as would almost any other historian in this country.

[rman]

95. Wiki is not the source

Contents of Wiki entries are based on outside sources.

[OXM]

87. Who's the liar?

Why are you so angry? There was no lie. You seem to be upset because you've made up your mind without knowing the facts. Who's the "fucking liars?" It's not the Israeli government and it's not the ADL. The problem wasn't with a daily battle in Lebanon but with a group that calls for a Muslim State to be built instead of Israel. This group escalated the war of words three weeks ago and we see the results of their actions right now. Before you spread the words "fucking" and "liars" you should know that the leveymg is also making a mistake. The rockets from Gaza were almost on a daily basis, but they almost always missed. There weren't just two rocket attacks. Leveymg didn't understand what he was reading and you jumped to conclusions because you're desperate to find some kind of conspiracy here.

[leveymg]

9. That's the impression I had, too.

We've all been tricked, big time. I'd almost be relieved to be proven wrong, but this appears to have been totally without any justification, even revenge.

As near as I can tell, it was an effort to lure Iran and/or Syria into some sort of retaliation. We all know what would follow. That gambit doesn't seem to be working.

[Mandate My Ass]

16. I also didn't know

Israel is retaking all the fertile land and all the aquifers in the West Bank. They're bulldozing homes and olive groves and building walled ghettos.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x139864

[Cronus Protagonist]

36. Yeah, and I'm still waiting for proof that two soldiers were captured

Everyone seems to take the excuse for war at face value. I trust none of the players and want proof. None has been supplied yet. Perhaps I missed it somewhere?



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[WinkyDink]

63. Um...ALL parties claim it's true.

[Cronus Protagonist]

70. And your point is?

I presume you mean that means it *must* be true? I'm not so trusting. It sounds like a convenient excuse, just like WMDs in Iraq...

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[WhollyHeretic]

50. Your OP is bullshit. Take a look at post 17 and google some of the stories

in there. The list you posted made no claim of being a list of all the deaths (though your OP did put forth that crock)

I don't agree with either side here, I'm just sick of the disinformation from both sides.

[OXM]

89. Amazing, isn't it?

There are some good discussions out there in DU, with deep thinking and understanding of all sides of the tragedy we're witnessing. That wasn't good enough for leveymg. If the Israelis are involved there must be a conspiracy somewhere. By selectively choosing to quote stuff from the ADL the point seems to be made... I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he's writing out of laziness and ignorance and not out of blind hatred.

[aquart]

97. Unfucking believable

is exactly my reaction to your post.

[oberliner]

8. UN Resolution 1559

UN Resolution 1559 calls for the withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon and the disarming and disbanding of Hezbollah and any other milita groups.

Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon was certified by the United Nations in 2004.

Hezbollah did not disarm and disband as required.

At 9:05 AM local time on 12 July 2006, Hezbollah initiated a Katyusha rocket and mortar attack on Israeli military positions and villages of northern Israel, injuring at least 8 Israelis

Afterwards, a ground contingent of Hezbollah militants attacked two Israeli armored Humvees on a routine patrol along the Israel-Lebanon border near the Israeli village of Zar'it with anti-tank rockets, capturing two Israeli soldiers, and killing eight. According to the Lebanese police force and Hezbollah, the Israeli soldiers were attacked and captured on the Lebanese side of the border on 12 July during a mission to infiltrate the Lebanese town of Ayta al-Sha`b.

The incident is cited and condemned by the UN Secretary General who identifies it as precipitating the Israeli response.

Your stated: "The military actions of Israel, particularly aerial bombardment of infrastructure inside Lebanon, are inappropriate to any sort of rescue operation"

I completely agree with that.

Hezbollah stood in violation of UN Res 1559 with which Israel complied.
International efforts should have been taken to ensure implementation of said resolution. (A Democratic US President would likely have led such efforts. Bush did nothing, as usual)
Hezbollah did attack Israeli forces within Israel and did seize two Israeli soldiers who they continue to hold in custody.

None of this is to excuse the bombardments carried out by Israel which you describe. However, this information is critical to understanding the full complexity of the conflict in my humble opinion.

[Mandate My Ass]

10. it clearly says

Israel has taken it upon itself to try to unilaterally enforce these measures. That in itself is a violation of international law and the UN Charter.

[leveymg]

11. What is the source of your account of 12 July?

[oberliner]

14. wikipedia, im ashamed to say

I'll try to find a more reliable one.

[dennis4868]

25. I have family up north in Israel....

and they will tell you that missles were definitely coming in from Lebanon....started in the afternoon when their kids were getting home from camp.

[SOS]

85. Reported 7/12/06 by IANS

http://in.news.yahoo.com/060712/43/65tzi.html

[BillZBubb]

21. More propaganda. What about UN 242?

You talk about complexity and omit the MOST pertinent fact. You want to talk about UN resolutions, then at least be honest and talk about the ONE that would end all the violence. Let's enforce UN 242. Israel is in violation and Hezbollah and Hamas are trying to enforce it. It only pre-dates UN 1559 by about 40 years.

[oberliner]

28. totally agree 100 percent - UN Res 242 must be implemented

UN Res 242 should without question be implemented.

Israel should remove all settlements and withdraw completely from all territories occupied in 1967.

Arab States should terminate all claims or states of belligerency and acknowledge the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of Israel and her right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.

I think it is critical to move to addressing that question immediately upon resolution of the Lebanon crisis.

My plan for peace:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1749373&mesg_id=1749373

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

34. I agree too - all sides need to compromise

We need a U.S. administration committed to peace in the region, instead of the inept Bush Administration that has only helped to fan the fires.

[hfojvt]

27. so Hezbollah started it?

Yet Israel was already doing this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=131277&mesg_id=131277

Bombarding Gaza, which, of course, had been a source of frequent, if mostly ineffective, rocket attacks. How much of those rocket attacks go back to Israel and US desire to punish Palestinians for electing Hamas?

As Liberal Oasis mentioned yesterday, part of the problem too is that Lebanon has an elected government instead of a strong dictator who could suppress Hezbollah.

[High Plains]

46. How about a complete list of UN resolutions on Israel?

And who is complying with what?

[slaveplanet]

86. Israel dominates the northern border

with an Iron fist and an electronic straight-jacket.
I'd give it about a .001% chance Hezbollah dared cross the border road.

you said..
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Hezbollah did attack Israeli forces within Israel and did seize two Israeli soldiers who they continue to hold in custody.
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AP says:
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html

The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon
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The border of Southern Lebanon and Israel is a seamless web of inter-visible Israeli outposts with night vision devices, tied together with ground surveillance radar, plowed-flat and raked daily to see footprints, and backed by quick reaction forces. Israelis routinely make incursive patrols into Lebanon. It is nearly impossible for an organized group of Hezbollah or anyone else to cross the border south, much less capture prisoners there. The very notion that this was an incursion INTO Israel is propped up solely by the credulity of the general public that knows nothing about military operations. In reality, the idea is as ludicrous as the Easter Bunny.

[MsMagnificent]

13. K & F'ing R!

I knew that Israel obviously knew about the ineptitude of those weapons, 'massive wave of rocketes hit, one minor injury' was one headline I remember
but NO deaths? And for so long?

Kind of makes you wonder: defending itself against what, exactly?
Or just more empty words to justify it doing whatever it wants?

[Lurking Dem]

17. ok

21 Nov 2005 - An attempt to kidnap an IDF soldier was foiled when paratroopers patrolling near Rajar village discerned a Hizbullah unit approaching. Private David Markovitz opened fire, killing all four. In a heavy attack of mortars and Katyusha rockets that ensued, nine soldiers and and two civilians were injured.

29 June 2005 - More than 20 mortars were fired from across the border. Cpl. Uzi Peretz of the Golani Brigade was killed and four soldiers wounded, including the unit's doctor. Fire was exchanged and helicopters and planes attacked five Hizbullah outposts in the Reches Ramim area.

7 Apr 2005 - Two Israeli Arabs from the village of Rajar on the Israel-Lebanon border were kidnapped by Hizbullah operatives and held in captivity for four days in an attempt to obtain information on Israel.

9 Jan 2005 - An explosive device was detonated against an IDF patrol at Nahal Sion. One Israeli soldier was killed, and a UN officer was killed.

20 July 2004 - Hizbullah sniper fired at an IDF post in the western sector of the Israeli-Lebanese border. Two IDF soldiers were killed.

7 May 2004 - Fire in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Dennis Leminov was killed, and two other soldiers were severely wounded. The IDF returned fire.

19 Jan 2004 - An anti-tank missile was fired at IDF D9 while neutralizing explosive charges near Zari’t. An IDF soldier, Yan Rotzenski, was killed and another soldier was severely wounded.

6 Oct 2003 - Staff Sgt. David Solomonov was killed when Hizbullah fired at an IDF force south of the Fatma Gate in the eastern sector. In addition, the Hizbullah fired missiles and rockets at an IDF post in the Reches Ramim area.

10 Aug 2003 - Haviv Dadon, 16, of Shlomi, was struck in the chest and killed by shrapnel from an anti-aircraft shell fired by Hizbullah terrorists in Lebanon. Four others were wounded.

20 Jul 2003 - Hizbullah snipers fired on an Israeli outpost near Shtula, killing two Israeli soldiers.

7 May 2003 - Hizbullah attacked IDF positions in the Sheba farms with heavy rocket, mortar, and small arms fire. One Israeli soldier was killed and five others were wounded in the attack.

29 Aug 2002 - Fire at an IDF post in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Ofer Misali was killed, and two other soldiers were lightly wounded.

12 Mar 2002 - Infiltration: In a shooting attack on the Shlomi- Metzuba route. Six Israelis civilians were killed, among them IDF officer Lt. German Rojkov.

14 Apr 2001 - Fire at an IDF post in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Elad Litvak was killed.

16 Feb 2001- Fire at an IDF convoy on Mt. Dov. IDF soldier Elad Shneor was killed, and three other soldiers were wounded.

26 Nov 2000 - A charge was detonated near an IDF convoy. IDF soldier Khalil Taher was killed and two other soldiers were wounded.

7 Oct 2000 - Kidnapping: Three IDF soldiers: Adi Avitan, Omer Soued and Binyamin Avraham were kidnapped by the Hizballah from the Mt. Dov sector.

[Marie26]

20. That's right

Not saying that Israel's response was reasonable, cause it isn't, but the list the OP posted isn't complete. So the headline here isn't right.

Here's the link for the complete list of Hizbullah attacks along Israel's northern border from May 2000 - June 2006:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Terrorism+from+Lebanon-+Hizbullah/Incidents%20along%20Israel-Lebanon%20border%20since%20May%202000

[The Stranger]

72. That link doesn't work, and it appears to be the Israeli government.

Wait -- you're linking to the Israeli government?

[Marie26]

78. Yep.

But it's very weird - that link doesn't seem to work anymore. Now I'm thinking that I've annoyed the Israeli gov. by linking to their site. :scared: You can argue about the independence of the source, but Israel is going to be the best source for information about Hizbollah border attacks, because they're keeping track. I've seen articles about at least 3 of these incidents in different independent news sources; if you want you can Google the rest, but the list seems pretty valid. Here's a complete list from a different source: Hizballah Terrorist Incidents Since May 2000 - http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/hizattacks1.html. And here's the original link again: http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Terrorism+from+Lebanon-+Hizbullah/Incidents%20along%20Israel-Lebanon%20border%20since%20May%202000

[The Stranger]

80. Still nothing close to justifying bombing innocents whonever supported Hez

bollah, even hundreds of miles away from the Northern border, in Northern Lebanon.

[Marie26]

82. Did I say it was?

All I'm interested in is the facts, & the facts presented in the OP weren't correct. People can judge for themselves what the information means.

[The Stranger]

83. Then even with all of the facts, the justification isn't there.

I'm glad you appear to agree.

[leftofthedial]

102. the israeli government is the worst possible source for information

on anything

you might as well use Fox News as a source

[Marie26]

103. I would like to see

you contradict it. This is a complete list of Hizbollah attacks from 2 different sources. I have independently looked up 3 of these incidents & all were reported by independent news media. You know, the OP used the Anti-Defamation League as a source, so you probably shouldn't believe his post either, if you're going to be consistent. What happened here is that the OP took an incomplete list of "major terrorist attacks" that covered different Palestinian groups, & pretended that it was a comprehensive list of all Hizbollah attacks. It was not, clearly. You can come to whatever postion you like regarding the Israel/Hiz. conflict, but at least do so based on the facts.

[leftofthedial]

104. you report, we decide?

okay.

thanks for the links.

disinformation is used by the Israelis more often than even their US-provided weapons of pretty-damned-massive-destruction. I don't trust them as a source. I also don't trust Hezbollah as a source. I think it is telling to compare the relatively small amount of violence inflicted by Hezbollah (none of whichis justifiable) from ADL source, despite the OP's somewhat misleading subject line, and the massive destruction Israel has inflicted on Lebanese targets, much of it indiscriminate.

[Marie26]

109. Something like that

But my slogan is more like "gimme some truth." I want to learn more about this issue, but there's so much passion & disinformation on both sides that it can be difficult to find the truth. If we can get an accurate presentation of the facts, it's more helpful & more enlightening.

[Emit]

22. What is the source for this list? Tx. n/t

[Lurking Dem]

24. Marie posted it.

[lostnfound]

31. "Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs" according to link. nt

[Name removed]

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[Bridget Burke]

39. And your source is? n/t

[The Stranger]

52. Do you have a link for that?

That is usually how it works around here.

[Marie26]

54. Are you reading the thread? nt

[The Stranger]

71. Yes, I am reading the thread. Is the link I asked for in the thread?

[leveymg]

55. Hezbollah sees the Sheba Farms area as part of Lebanon

still being occupied by Israel. That may explain at least some of the above.

[Lurking Dem]

56. Actually, no.

I think they see it as part of Syria.

[Marie26]

57. Except the UN & int. community does not.

Personally, I think part of the problem was that Hizbollah needed big bad Israel to exist & gather support. The same way that the Bush Ad. needs big bad Al-Qaeda to get support for their activities. Once Israel withdrew, Hiz. had accomplished its mission & now really had no reason to exist. So they had to find another reason.

ETA: "On May 22, 2000, Israel completed its withdrawal from the south of Lebanon in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 425 <1>. The UN certified Israel's pullout <2>. The January 20, 2005 UN Secretary-General's report on Lebanon explicitly stated: "The continually asserted position of the Government of Lebanon that the Blue Line is not valid in the Shab'a farms area is not compatible with Security Council resolutions. The Council has recognized the Blue Line as valid for purposes of confirming Israel’s withdrawal pursuant to resolution 425 (1978). The Government of Lebanon should heed the Council’s repeated calls for the parties to respect the Blue Line in its entirety." <3> Timur Goksel, a spokesman for the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) told the BBC that "on all maps the UN has been able to find, the farms are seen on the Syrian side ."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebaa_Farms

[bornskeptic]

77. But Syria does.

However, Lebanese and Syrian officials insisted that Syria had officially given the territory to Lebanon in 1951. Lebanese officials pointed to the fact that a number of residents in the area have land deeds stamped by the Lebanese government.

Lebanese army maps published in 1961 and 1966 specifically pinpoint several of the Shebaa Farms, including Zebdine, Fashkoul, Mougr Shebaa and Ramta, all of which are designated as being lebanese. Lebanese Ministry of Tourism maps also show the Lebanese-Syrian border running west of the Shebaa Farms. Syria has officially acknowledged the Farms are Lebanese.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said the Israeli-occupied Shebaa Farms belong to Lebanon. Assad told a news conference in Paris before ending a state visit to France, Beirut and Damascus will demarcate their countries' border at Shebaa Farms after Israel withdraws from the region. They will then submit a new map to the UN.

http://www.shebaafarms.org/briefhistory.html

[Igel]

98. In that case they should make it clear, Syria should,

by formalizing it. Not rejecting the suggestion.

Moreover, at least one map showing the Shebaa Farms was Lebanese, it seems, was a forgery. There are land deeds from before the war, but the overwhelming majority of Lebanese and Syrian maps from the '50s through the '90s show it as being Syria.

Now, if evidence can be found of a 1967 war with Lebanon in which Lebanese forces were driven back from Lebanese territory, I'm willing to reconsider my views on the area. Lebanon didn't find the territory worth defending, and, indeed, its troops were not in the area. Occupation of the area provoked no outcry or complaints. No UN resolution, no paperwork with Israel over the status of the land. Isn't that odd? In fact, in the '74 document formalizing the ceasefire with Syria, Syria asserted that the Shebaa Farms was occupied Syrian land.

The evidence before WWII shows that the land was clearly unclear, and possibly disputed, but with central authority being weak and the territory being small, it wasn't a big deal. And, later, with Syria being strong, it wasn't a big deal. With Syria in de facto control of Lebanon in the early '00s, transferring the land was meaningless, much as Russia viewed the transfer of the Crimea to Ukraine as a mere, fairly meaningless, formality.

However, Russia formalized the transfer, and when the USSR broke up, it was stuck with the consequences of the formality. In the case of the Shebaa Farms, there was a distinct lag between Israel's withdrawal and assertion of sovereignty over that 30 sq mi (or so) territory. Shebaa Farms became an issue shortly after the resistance was declared over and everybody was to disarm; suddenly there was still an occupation to justify the resistance. Syria said so, Hezbollah said so, and the Lebanese government--afraid of one and the other--followed in short order.

An equally useful approach, if all sides consider the farms to be occupied, is for Lebanon to press Syria to come to terms with Israel, so that Syria may regain the territory it lost and formalize the transfer of the area to Lebanon.

To do otherwise is to say lying is good, and provocations are rewarded. You get more of the behavior you reward.

[The Magistrate]

64. But It Does Certainly Show, Sir

That, as it has generally been characterized, there has been a low-intensity conflict along the border, essentially since Israel withdrew from Lebanon. No government of any state will tolerate, or could be expected to tolerate, such a situation indefinitely. It is true that the bulk of these incidents involve military personnel, and thus are legitimate if the view is taken that Hezbollah is engaged in a private war against Israel, but legitimacy in this sense does alter the fact that they are acts of war, and provide an ample casus belli for Israel to levy full-scale war against the organization Hezbollah that carried them out.

[leveymg]

69. Border skirmishes aren't casus belli for invasion

not under any reading of int'l law I've read.

I'm glad that we've seen this important link - it does add some facts that must be considered. But, even in light of this, the invasion still appears disproportionate and unjustified, particularly the punative destruction of Lebanese cities.

[muriel_volestrangler]

68. By my count, it's 15 killed in Israel proper in the 5 years

but I may have miscounted. Mount Dov and Nahal Sion are also the Shebaa Farms area.

[Vinnie From Indy]

79. Just a few thoughts

you write,
"21 Nov 2005 - An attempt to kidnap an IDF soldier was foiled when paratroopers patrolling near Rajar village discerned a Hizbullah unit approaching. Private David Markovitz opened fire, killing all four. In a heavy attack of mortars and Katyusha rockets that ensued, nine soldiers and and two civilians were injured."

If ALL of the alleged Hezbollah insurgents were killed, how would anyone know what their goal was? Did they have a note or something intheir pocket that detailed their goal of kidnapping an Israeli soldier?

you write,
"Hizbullah sniper fired at an IDF post in the western sector of the Israeli-Lebanese border. Two IDF soldiers were killed."

Was this sniper apprehended? If not, how does anyone know who was actually firing and why?

Your list makes many claims about Hizbollah being responsible but does not provide any evidence that it is true. They seem to be mostly allegations.

Please do not assume that I am a defender of Hezbollah. I am not. I think Israel has a right to defend itself from any and all attacks. It is their specific response to this crisis that I question.

[MsMagnificent]

105. WAY down the list

[originalpckelly]

18. They count drive by shootings as terrorist attacks?

"July 23, 2005: Two people were killed and three others wounded in a drive-by shooting near the Kissufim crossing in the Gaza Strip. Islamic Jihad and Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack."

WOW! The USA is the terrorist attack capital of the world then. Maybe we should get the UN involved with the generational Crypt-Blood conflict.

:eyes:

[Behind the Aegis]

60. You don't think drive-bys are terrorism?

I think it is a perfect example of domestic terrorism, which US citizens are more likely to be a victim of, than international terrorism.

[Minstrel Boy]

19. Thanks, I've been seeing similar data from pro-Israel sources

that flies in the face of the easy assumptions I've seen here that Hezbollah has killed "scores" and "countless" numbers of Israelis.

[bling bling]

26. They didn't attack because because Syria controlled Lebanon.

Syria used Hezbollah as a bargaining chip with Israel. They keep Hezbollah under control as part of some obscure negotiated agreement with Israel whereby Israel did something for Syria that Syria wanted, as I understand it.

Pressuring Syria out of Lebanon changed the power structure of Lebanon and thus the control over Hezbollah as a result.

Edited to add: Or at least, Syria isn't "restraining" Hezballah anymore because any deals they had with Israel were ended once Syria left Lebanon. No need to reign in Hezballah when they're not getting anything out of it. Perhaps even, Syria was being spiteful in activating recent Hezballah attacks: "see, you NEED us in Lebanon."

[ThomCat]

29. My overall impression

is that the Hezbolah have been a local resistance, preparing to fight back against Israel. And if so, that is their right.

If they haven't Killed anyone in Israel in years, and they're only attempting to do so now after Israel's provocations and sustained assault, then that backs up the idea.

The people of Lebanon have every right to organize themselves into a resistance movement if their government cannot defend them.

[oberliner]

33. resistance to what exactly?

In May 2000 Israel withdrew from all of Lebanon. Hezbollah was widely seen as the cause of the Israeli defeat. Many observers hailed the group as the first Arab military force to defeat an Israeli army.

Having achieved their stated goal of driving Israel out of Lebanon, why did they not disarm and allow the Lebanese military to be the sole miltary force in the country?

[ThomCat]

38. The threat that Israel would come back and do

the same thing again. Terrorize the people, destroy the local infrastructure, and monopolize the local water access. Given recent events, it seems they were right.

[oberliner]

41. If Hezbollah had disarmed and disbanded

and the Lebanese government took control of defending the border, do you think that Israel still would have done the things that you describe?

[ThomCat]

44. Absolutely.

They certainly haven't stopped stealing land and water elsewhere. They haven't stopped harrassing people at checkpoints (including outside of their own legitimate borders). They haven't stopped arresting people seemingly at random (10,000 Palestinians right now). And they haven't stopped bombing innocent civilians in Gaza or elsewhere.

I'm sure they probably have not stopped covert excursions across all their borders. But I don't have proof of that. That's just my belief based on everything else Israel is doing right out in the open.

So, no, Israel doesn't stop just because people disarm. Just like the US would not stop occupying Iraq if all of Iraq disarmed. That would just make Israel's terror tactics more effective because there would be less resistance.

Never, ever disarm in the face of terrorists. Israel claims this right. Their neighbors have that same right.

[oberliner]

47. Not saying Lebanon should disarm, just Hezbollah

Lebanon is the neighbor of Israel and Lebanon has every right to be armed.

Hezbollah is operating as an independant militia group outside the jurisdiction of the Lebanese army.

The Lebanese army should be the ones protecting their border from the potential theft of land and water, not an extra-governmental military group.

[ThomCat]

53. The Lebonese government appears to be nearly useless.

If someone invaded the US and our politicians were not protecting us I would expect the people of the US to arm ourselves and fight back. I accept that the people of every nation on earth have that same right.

I don't agree with the terror on either side, but I don't think disarming anyone is the answer. If you disarm the victim you just encourage the bully to be even more of a bully. Disarming will only come when both sides feel secure, and that feeling of security will only come after peace has been established. So peace must be negotiated even while both sides are still armed.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

45. If Hamas and Hezbollah both disarmed

do you think Israel's government would willingly and without pressure remove all settlements from the west bank and allow a unified and sovereign Palestinian government to come into being, one that is not a lorded-over and controlled aggregation of bantustans but one with complete and independent control of its airspace and territory? I think the problem is that neither side wants to ever give up its position or ever budge, even if the other were to relent. That's why only an outside party like the United States putting equal pressure on both of them can effect a true peace.

[Lurking Dem]

48. Purely as precedent

Israel gave up land for peace to Egypt. Israel gave up land for peace to Jordan. Israel pulled out of Gaza, moved out all the Jews who lived there as a stepping stone to pulling out of the West Bank and earned nothing more than rockets into Israel proper from the very day they left.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

51. Israel has not allowed Gaza to have control of either its land or airspace

In fact, the incident involving the shelling of the beach is a perfect example. And the west bank will be much more of a contested matter because of the large number of settlers who live there, compared to the Gaza strip. Did Israel have large numbers of settlers in the Sinai, in Jordan? Why has Israel allowed settlements to increase in the West Bank, if they are interested in eventually trading land for peace?

[oberliner]

59. the sinai

The Land for Peace formula is a good one that can work and has worked.

Israel dismantled its settlements and withdrew completely from the Sinai Peninsula in exchange for peace with Egypt.

Peace-minded Israeli leaders such as Rabin who was unfortunately assassinated by a right-wing lunatic were on track in the 1990s to make significant movements towards the objectives of the land for peace formula.

Right wing leaders of Israel since then have taken serious steps backwards in that regard. It is my belief that the majority of Israelis favor the trading of land for peace and hopefully that can soon become a reality.

The West Bank, as you pointed out is the most complicated matter obviously.

You will recall in 1978 when Jordan was recognized as the a representative of the Palestinians that Israel had initially expressed interest in returning the West Bank to Jordan in exchange for a peace agreement similar to that which was achieved with Egypt with plans for an establishment of a self-governing Palestinian state soon thereafter.

As you know, Jordan withdrew its claims to the West Bank and subsequently signed a peace treaty with Israel that did not include any significant border adjustments.

There is hope I think for a settlement that all sides will find mutually beneficial, but it will definitely take compromise and diplomacy and US involvement.

Hopefully we will get a Democratic president very soon who can actually intelligently engage in said diplomacy.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

66. I hope so too - this killing has got to stop

[eridani]

92. It worked with Egypt and Jordan, who have not attacked Israel

It didn't work with Gaza because Gaza is not a country, just one of the world's largest outdoor prisons.

[atreides1]

76. That's the unfortunate thing

No one here can say with any assurance exactly what Israel would have done. Besides, the Lebanese army isn't able to defend its borders, hell the air force doesn't even have any fixed wing aircraft!

They are outnumbered in tanks, artillery, and troops, and at the mercy of both Syria and Israel.

[eridani]

91. Sharon's threat of war against Lebanon

--for using too much water from the Litani River.

[malaise]

40. Hit them with facts

The world must find out the truth. Tell them how many times Israel violated Lebanon's air space in those years.

[greyl]

42. The OP isn't factual.

Please browse upthread.

[Marie26]

90. Who cares about the facts?

This post is now the single most recommended on all of DU.

[Balbus]

65. More like bludgeon them with lies in this case, though.

[WhollyHeretic]

43. Your thread title is a lie. The list you link to makes no claim

of being a list of all fatalities. Take a look at post 17 and if you doubt the information in that post you can google any of the instances to see that your thread title is bullshit.

The disinformation and refusal to accept any contrary facts by BOTH sides of this insanity is absolutely disgusting. Both sides have acted terribly.

[leveymg]

73. I had not seen that. I would now change the title to

Unspoken fact: Few Israelis Killed by Hezbollah 01/01-06/06

This confirms the basic premise however. There was no systematic Hezbollah terrorism, and only a handful of Israeli military casualties in border skirmishes between the time the Israelis evacuated Lebanon in 2000 and the resumption of fighting three weeks ago.

[WinkyDink]

61. Which prompts, for me, the question: WHY NOW did Hezbollah decide to

kidnap the Israeli soldiers? Tired of peace?

"Legal aspects regarding Hezbollah and Lebanon
26 July 2006
Three UN Security Council Resolutions are fundamental to understanding the legal background to the current crisis in Lebanon:

UN Security Council Resolution 425 (1978) – Calls for the achievement of a just peace through the withdrawal of Israeli forces to the Israel-Lebanon international border, and for joint Lebanese and international forces to provide security and peace in southern Lebanon.
UN Security Council Resolution 1559 (2004) – Reaffirms the demand that all Syrian forces retreat from Lebanon, demands the disbanding and disarming of all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias (such as Hezbollah) in Lebanon and calls on the Lebanese government to extend its control over all Lebanese territory.
UN Security Council Resolution 1680 (2006) – Calls upon the Syrian government to withdraw all of its forces from Lebanon, to cease the movement of arms into Lebanon and reaffirms the demand that the Lebanese government take control over all regions of Lebanon.
Israel has complied

In May 2000, in full coordination with the UN, Israel withdrew all of its forces from the southern Lebanon security zone, which was held as a buffer zone from 1985. By doing so, Israel fully implemented Resolution 425.
Israel’s fulfilment of Resolution 425 was verified in a letter from UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan to the UN Security Council on 24 July 2000, in which Annan wrote: “Further to my report on the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) of 20 July 2000 (S/2000/718), I have the honour to inform you that the Israeli authorities have removed all violations of the line of withdrawal.”
Though no territorial dispute exists between Israel and Lebanon, terror activity emanating from Lebanon has continued on sovereign Israeli territory.
Lebanon has not complied

The above-mentioned resolutions require Lebanon to deploy its forces throughout Lebanese territory. Lebanon has so far failed to do so.
The areas north of the Israel-Lebanon border have continued to be controlled by heavily armed Hezbollah terrorist positions. This is a clear violation of Resolution 1559, which requires Lebanon to disarm the militias acting openly in its territory.
Syria and Iran have not complied."

Rest is here: http://www.bicom.org.uk/publications/

[Scurrilous]

75. K & R

:thumbsup:

[mike_c]

84. you left out UN Res. 242....

The one that must be implemented before there is any possibility for peace.

[oberliner]

88. land for peace

Yes, the withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the 1967 conflict

and


The termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of Israel and its right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.


Hope to see both these elements of the resolution achieved in the near future.

[rman]

96. Israeli attack on Gaza beach, Palestinian civilians kidnapped

Israel: Investigate Gaza Beach Killings
Artillery Strike Probably Killed Palestinian Family
Update: More Evidence on Beach Killings Implicates IDF
June 15, 2006
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/06/13/isrlpa13544.htm

(Gaza City, June 13, 2006) – Israel should immediately launch an independent, impartial investigation of a June 9 Israeli artillery strike on a beach north of Gaza City, Human Rights Watch said today. Seven Palestinian civilians picnicking on the beach were killed that day and dozens of others were wounded.

--

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/14/146258
Noam Chomsky:
...
"What's happening in Gaza, to start with that -- well, basically the current stage of what's going on -- there's a lot more -- begins with the Hamas election, back the end of January. Israel and the United States at once announced that they were going to punish the people of Palestine for voting the wrong way in a free election. And the punishment has been severe."
...
"Gaza, itself, the latest phase, began on June 24. It was when Israel abducted two Gaza civilians, a doctor and his brother. We don't know their names. You don’t know the names of victims. They were taken to Israel, presumably, and nobody knows their fate. The next day, something happened, which we do know about, a lot. Militants in Gaza, probably Islamic Jihad, abducted an Israeli soldier across the border. That’s Corporal Gilad Shalit. And that's well known; first abduction is not. Then followed the escalation of Israeli attacks on Gaza, which I don’t have to repeat. It’s reported on adequately."

[OXM]

93. Okay. Let me just say.

I hate to reply to this because it keeps this thread alive and kicking. At the same time I can't stop myself... When this new war (or whatever anyone decides to call it) started, I was afraid of the reaction from DU. I've been a mostly silent reader since 2003, and I was afraid of not being able to relate to DUers because the escalation of the fighting could so easily convince some people that the Elders of Zion are finally leaving their banks to start the revolution. Mostly, I have to say my fears were misguided. A good discussion could be found in many places in DU, whether by moderators or by regular contributers (many of them on this thread, trying to make sure blind hatred and a tendency to believe in conspiracy theories takes a back seat to facts). As for leveymg, I hope you don't hate me, and I hope you don't hate my family in Israel. Honestly, if there is a conspiracy I didn't get the memo. As for those recommending this post, spend more times reading history and less time pressing the "recommend" button and you might learn something.
Thanks again, DU, for a mostly fair discussion in these sad times.

[in_cog_ni_to]

107. Welcome to DU, OXM and I'm truly sorry you have to witness this

crap on DU. I hope your family in Israel is safe and makes it through this trying time.

We know the truth. Some just don't wish to see it and acknowledge it. They have a different agenda and it's NOT in the best interest of Israel.



Hezbollah Terrorist Attacks Since May 2000*

*Israel's unilateral withdrawal from southern Lebanon

Compiled by Mitchell Bard

(July 24, 2006)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

24 Jul 2006 - Hezbollah fired more than 70 Katyusha rockets into Israel, several of which landed in Nahariya, Safed, and Kiryat Shmona. Medics treated at least 49 people who were lightly to moderately wounded. More than 2200 rockets have been fired at Israeli cities since July 12, killing 17 Israelis, all of them civilians. 20 Israeli soldiers were killed in other incidents.

23 Jul 2006 - Shimon Glickblich, 60, of Haifa was killed Sunday morning (11:00) while driving his car in Haifa. Habib Isa Awad, 48, of Iblin, was killed while working in the carpentry shop in Kiryat Ata. Another 12 were wounded in the morning barrage in Haifa, and more later in the day as over 90 rockets were fired at Haifa, Akko, Kiryat Shmona, and elsewhere in northern Israel.

20 Jul 2006 - Five IDF soldiers were killed and five wounded in continuing exchanges of fire in the Lebanese village of Maroun al-Ras, near Avivim, where two soldiers were killed on Wednesday. The body of the fifth soldier, St.-Sgt. Yonatan (Sergei) Vlasyuk, 21, of Kibbutz Lahav was retrieved on July 22. At 16, Yonatan immigrated alone to Israel through the Jewish Agency's "Na'aleh" program. He was adopted by Dalia Gal, a member of Kibbutz Lahav in the Negev. An IDF officer was killed and three soldiers were wounded as two Apache (Cobra) combat helicopters on their way to Lebanon to assist IDF forces operating against Hezbollah terrorists near Avivim collided and then crashed south of Kiryat Shmona.

19 Jul 2006 - St.-Sgt. Yonatan Hadasi, 21, of Kibbutz Merhavia and St.-Sgt. Yotam Gilboa, 21, of Kibbutz Maoz Haim were killed and nine soldiers were wounded in exchanges of fire between IDF and Hezbollah in south Lebanon, near Moshav Avivim. The Israeli force had crossed the border to destroy the Hezbollah rocket-launching position at the former IDF outpost of Shaked. Rabia Abed Taluzi (3) and his brother Mahmoud (7) who were playing soccer outside their house were killed and dozens were wounded in two Katyusha rocket attacks on the Israeli Arab city of Nazareth.

18 Jul 2006 - Andrei Zelinksy, 36, was killed Tuesday evening in Nahariya outside a bomb shelter. Though he managed to save his family by rushing them into the shelter, he returned home to get a blanket for his daughter and was killed. Some 130 rockets were fired at the north on Tuesday, 100 of them within one hour and a half - also landing in the Haifa area, Karmiel, Tiberias, Safed, Maalot and Rosh Pina. About 60 people injured were evacuated to hospitals in Safed and Nahariya.

17 Jul 2006 - Over 50 rockets were fired towards the eastern and upper Galilee on Monday night. A Katyusha rocket hit the external wall of the Rebecca Sieff Hospital in Safed, causing damage to infrastructure; five patients, two doctors and two other hospital employees were injured. Earlier, 11 people were wounded in Haifa when a 3-story apartment building was hit by missile. The Israel Air Force destroyed at least ten long-range Iranian-made missiles capable of hitting Tel Aviv, by targeting a Hezbollah truck carrying the missiles before they could be launched. To date, missiles have been fired up to 40 kilometers into Israel.

16 Jul 2006 - Eight killed, 50 wounded in Hezbollah rocket attack on Haifa - Rockets began falling on the Haifa area shortly after 9:00 a.m. Eight employees of Israel Railways at the Haifa train depot were killed in a direct hit by a Fajar missile made in Syria. A total of over 50 people were wounded in Haifa and the Haifa Bay area.

15 Jul 2006 - Katyusha rockets landed for the first time in Tiberias, located 35 kilometers from the Lebanese border on the Sea of Galilee, as well as in nearby communities.

14 Jul 2006 - Shortly after 8:30 p.m. =46riday night an Israeli navy ship was severely damaged by an Iran-manufactured missile fired by Hezbollah. Four IDF soldiers were killed: Staff Sgt. Tal Amgar, 21, of Ashdod; Yaniv Hershkovitz, 21, of Haifa; Shai Atias, 19, ofRishon Lezion; and Dov Steinshuss, 37, of Karmiel. Omer Pesachov, 7, of Nahariya, and his grandmother Yehudit Itzkovitch, 58, of Moshav Meron were killed by a Katyusha rocket in Meron early Friday evening. Roni, Omer's older sister, was badly wounded, and the grandfather, Naftali, was lightly hurt. The family had fled the Katyushas in Nahariya to spend a quiet weekend with their grandparents.

13 Jul 2006 - Monica Seidman (Lehrer), 40, of Nahariya was killed in her home by a Katyusha rocket Thursday morning. In the evening, Nitzan Roseban, 33, was killed in Safed by a direct rocket hit. On Thursday evening Katyushas landed in Haifa.

12 Jul 2006 - Hezbollah terrorists infiltrated into Israeli territory and attacked two IDF armored jeeps patrolling the border with Lebanon, killing three soldiers and kidnapping two. Ground forces entered Lebanon in the area of the attack. A large explosive device was detonated underneath an Israeli tank, killing all four of the tank crew. An eighth soldier was killed when IDF troops entered Lebanon to try to retrieve the bodies of the tank crew. Throughout the day, Hezbollah terror organization fired Katyusha rockets and mortar shells at Israel's northern borders' communities and IDF posts.

27 May 2006 - An IDF soldier was wounded when Katyushas were fired at an army base at Mt. Meron in the upper Galilee.

27 Dec 2005 - A branch of a Palestinian organization connected to Al-Qaida fired 6 Katyushas, damaging a house in Kiryat Shmona and a house in Metulla. In response, the IAF attacked a training base of the Popular Front, south of Beirut.

21 Nov 2005 - An attempt to kidnap an IDF soldier was foiled when paratroopers patrolling near Rajar village discerned a Hezbollah unit approaching. Private David Markovitz opened fire, killing all four. In a heavy attack of mortars and Katyusha rockets that ensued, nine soldiers and and two civilians were injured.

29 Jun 2005 - More than 20 mortars were fired from across the border. Cpl. Uzi Peretz of the Golani Brigade was killed and four soldiers wounded, including the unit's doctor. Fire was exchanged and helicopters and planes attacked five Hezbollah outposts in the Reches Ramim area.

24 Apr 2005 - Several explosive devices exploded near the Lebanese-Israeli border, in the Mount Dov area. Officials believe the devices were planted by Hezbollah, but this was not confirmed. No injuries were reported in the explosions.

7 Apr 2005 - Two Israeli-Arabs from the village of Rajar near the Israel-Lebanon border were kidnapped by Hezbollah operatives and held in captivity for four days. The men, identified as Muki Ben-Jamal and Nuef Maharj Ben-Ali, said they were interrogated by their captors who wanted information on Israel. They were later released. Israeli officials did not believe that any security information had been compromised.

9 Jan 2005 - An explosive device was detonated against an IDF patrol at Nahal Sion. One Israeli soldier was killed, and a UN officer was killed.

20 Jul 2004 - Hezbollah sniper fired at an IDF post in the western sector of the Israeli-Lebanese border. Two IDF soldiers were killed.

7 May 2004 - Fire in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Dennis Leminov was killed, and two other soldiers were severely wounded. The IDF returned fire.

19 Jan 2004 - An anti-tank missile was fired at IDF D9 while neutralizing explosive charges near Zari't. An IDF soldier, Yan Rotzenski, was killed and another soldier was severely wounded.

6 Oct 2003 - Staff Sgt. David Solomonov was killed when Hezbollah fired at an IDF force south of the =46atma Gate in the eastern sector. In addition, the Hezbollah fired missiles and rockets at an IDF post in the Reches Ramim area.

10 Aug 2003 - Haviv Dadon, 16, of Shlomi, was struck in the chest and killed by shrapnel from an anti-aircraft shell fired by Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon. Four others were wounded.

20 Jul 2003 - Hezbollah snipers fired on an Israeli outpost near Chetula, killing two Israeli soldiers. The IDF retaliated with tank fire directed at a Hezbollah position, killing one operative manning the post. That night, there were multiple Israeli flights over Lebanon, two of which generated powerful sonic booms over Beirut.

7 May 2003 - Hezbollah attacked IDF positions in the Sheba' farms with heavy rocket, mortar, and small arms fire. One Israeli soldier was killed and five others were wounded in the attack. Lebanese authorities asserted that the Hezbollah firing had been preceded by an Israeli army foot patrol crossing the Blue Line.

5 May 2003 - A cycle of armed exchanges across the Blue Line began. Israel carried out more than 20 air sorties over the country. Subsequently, Hezbollah fired several anti-aircraft rounds with shrapnel landing inside Israel.

22 Mar 2003 - Hezbollah fired rockets and mortars at Israeli army positions in the Sheba' farms and adjacent areas. This attack followed eight incursions into Lebanese airspace by Israeli aircraft.

6 Jan 2003 - Hezbollah fired anti aircraft shells in the vicinity of Birait in the western sector of the Lebanese border. No one was hurt and no damage was caused.

29 Aug 2002 - Fire at an IDF post in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Ofer Misali was killed, and two other soldiers were lightly wounded.

12 Mar 2002 - Infiltration: In a shooting attack on the Shlomi- Metzuba route. Six Israelis civilians were killed, among them IDF officer Lt. German Rojkov.

7 Aug 2001 - Two houses belonging to senior members of the former Israeli-allied South Lebanon Army militia were blown up using explosive devices. One of the houses belonged to Robin Abboud; the other to Samir Raslan. Hezbollah is suspected.

28 Apr 2001 - A 60 year-old Israeli man was found stabbed to death in Kfar Ba'aneh, near Carmiel in Galilee. The terrorists responsible for the attack were apprehended in July. Six members of a Hezbollah-linked Palestinian terrorist cell responsible for the murder were arrested in July. The murder was the initiation rite of the organization.

14 Apr 2001 - Fire at an IDF post in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Elad Litvak was killed.

1 Apr 2001 - A 42 year-old Israeli woman was stabbed to death in Haifa. Her murder was the initiation rite of a terrorist cell, whose members were apprehended in July. Six members of a Hezbollah-linked Palestinian terrorist cell responsible for the murder, originally thought to be criminally motivated, were arrested in July. The murder was the initiation rite of one of the terrorists into the organization.

16 Feb 2001- Fire at an IDF convoy on Mt. Dov. IDF soldier Elad Shneor was killed, and three other soldiers were wounded.

26 Nov 2000 - A charge was detonated near an IDF convoy. IDF soldier Khalil Taher was killed and two other soldiers were wounded.

7 Oct 2000 - Kidnapping: Three IDF soldiers: Adi Avitan, Omer Soued and Binyamin Avraham were kidnapped by the Hezbollah from the Mt. Dov sector.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sources: Ministry of Foreign Affairs; Ministry of Foreign Affairs Summary of Events; RAND Terrorism Database; The Institute for Counter-Terrorism; U.S. State Department Report on Human Rights Practices for 2004


http://www.aijac.org.au/resources/hezb_00-06.html

[nashville_brook]

94. funny how factual articles have way fewer "ignored"s

than the juicy ad hominem screeds. wonder why the 'Nords aren't checking in on this thread. ;)

"too damn much perspective"

[greyl]

99. Is everyone who has pointed out the falsehood of the OP

on your ignore list? Must be.

[Up2Late]

100. This just fits the Bush/Cheney "logic"...

...just like how, since we haven't had another 9/11 here, they must be doing a good job.

[in_cog_ni_to]

106. WRONG.

Hezbollah Terrorist Attacks Since May 2000*

*Israel's unilateral withdrawal from southern Lebanon

Compiled by Mitchell Bard

(July 24, 2006)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

24 Jul 2006 - Hezbollah fired more than 70 Katyusha rockets into Israel, several of which landed in Nahariya, Safed, and Kiryat Shmona. Medics treated at least 49 people who were lightly to moderately wounded. More than 2200 rockets have been fired at Israeli cities since July 12, killing 17 Israelis, all of them civilians. 20 Israeli soldiers were killed in other incidents.

23 Jul 2006 - Shimon Glickblich, 60, of Haifa was killed Sunday morning (11:00) while driving his car in Haifa. Habib Isa Awad, 48, of Iblin, was killed while working in the carpentry shop in Kiryat Ata. Another 12 were wounded in the morning barrage in Haifa, and more later in the day as over 90 rockets were fired at Haifa, Akko, Kiryat Shmona, and elsewhere in northern Israel.

20 Jul 2006 - Five IDF soldiers were killed and five wounded in continuing exchanges of fire in the Lebanese village of Maroun al-Ras, near Avivim, where two soldiers were killed on Wednesday. The body of the fifth soldier, St.-Sgt. Yonatan (Sergei) Vlasyuk, 21, of Kibbutz Lahav was retrieved on July 22. At 16, Yonatan immigrated alone to Israel through the Jewish Agency's "Na'aleh" program. He was adopted by Dalia Gal, a member of Kibbutz Lahav in the Negev. An IDF officer was killed and three soldiers were wounded as two Apache (Cobra) combat helicopters on their way to Lebanon to assist IDF forces operating against Hezbollah terrorists near Avivim collided and then crashed south of Kiryat Shmona.

19 Jul 2006 - St.-Sgt. Yonatan Hadasi, 21, of Kibbutz Merhavia and St.-Sgt. Yotam Gilboa, 21, of Kibbutz Maoz Haim were killed and nine soldiers were wounded in exchanges of fire between IDF and Hezbollah in south Lebanon, near Moshav Avivim. The Israeli force had crossed the border to destroy the Hezbollah rocket-launching position at the former IDF outpost of Shaked. Rabia Abed Taluzi (3) and his brother Mahmoud (7) who were playing soccer outside their house were killed and dozens were wounded in two Katyusha rocket attacks on the Israeli Arab city of Nazareth.

18 Jul 2006 - Andrei Zelinksy, 36, was killed Tuesday evening in Nahariya outside a bomb shelter. Though he managed to save his family by rushing them into the shelter, he returned home to get a blanket for his daughter and was killed. Some 130 rockets were fired at the north on Tuesday, 100 of them within one hour and a half - also landing in the Haifa area, Karmiel, Tiberias, Safed, Maalot and Rosh Pina. About 60 people injured were evacuated to hospitals in Safed and Nahariya.

17 Jul 2006 - Over 50 rockets were fired towards the eastern and upper Galilee on Monday night. A Katyusha rocket hit the external wall of the Rebecca Sieff Hospital in Safed, causing damage to infrastructure; five patients, two doctors and two other hospital employees were injured. Earlier, 11 people were wounded in Haifa when a 3-story apartment building was hit by missile. The Israel Air Force destroyed at least ten long-range Iranian-made missiles capable of hitting Tel Aviv, by targeting a Hezbollah truck carrying the missiles before they could be launched. To date, missiles have been fired up to 40 kilometers into Israel.

16 Jul 2006 - Eight killed, 50 wounded in Hezbollah rocket attack on Haifa - Rockets began falling on the Haifa area shortly after 9:00 a.m. Eight employees of Israel Railways at the Haifa train depot were killed in a direct hit by a Fajar missile made in Syria. A total of over 50 people were wounded in Haifa and the Haifa Bay area.

15 Jul 2006 - Katyusha rockets landed for the first time in Tiberias, located 35 kilometers from the Lebanese border on the Sea of Galilee, as well as in nearby communities.

14 Jul 2006 - Shortly after 8:30 p.m. =46riday night an Israeli navy ship was severely damaged by an Iran-manufactured missile fired by Hezbollah. Four IDF soldiers were killed: Staff Sgt. Tal Amgar, 21, of Ashdod; Yaniv Hershkovitz, 21, of Haifa; Shai Atias, 19, ofRishon Lezion; and Dov Steinshuss, 37, of Karmiel. Omer Pesachov, 7, of Nahariya, and his grandmother Yehudit Itzkovitch, 58, of Moshav Meron were killed by a Katyusha rocket in Meron early Friday evening. Roni, Omer's older sister, was badly wounded, and the grandfather, Naftali, was lightly hurt. The family had fled the Katyushas in Nahariya to spend a quiet weekend with their grandparents.

13 Jul 2006 - Monica Seidman (Lehrer), 40, of Nahariya was killed in her home by a Katyusha rocket Thursday morning. In the evening, Nitzan Roseban, 33, was killed in Safed by a direct rocket hit. On Thursday evening Katyushas landed in Haifa.

12 Jul 2006 - Hezbollah terrorists infiltrated into Israeli territory and attacked two IDF armored jeeps patrolling the border with Lebanon, killing three soldiers and kidnapping two. Ground forces entered Lebanon in the area of the attack. A large explosive device was detonated underneath an Israeli tank, killing all four of the tank crew. An eighth soldier was killed when IDF troops entered Lebanon to try to retrieve the bodies of the tank crew. Throughout the day, Hezbollah terror organization fired Katyusha rockets and mortar shells at Israel's northern borders' communities and IDF posts.

27 May 2006 - An IDF soldier was wounded when Katyushas were fired at an army base at Mt. Meron in the upper Galilee.

27 Dec 2005 - A branch of a Palestinian organization connected to Al-Qaida fired 6 Katyushas, damaging a house in Kiryat Shmona and a house in Metulla. In response, the IAF attacked a training base of the Popular Front, south of Beirut.

21 Nov 2005 - An attempt to kidnap an IDF soldier was foiled when paratroopers patrolling near Rajar village discerned a Hezbollah unit approaching. Private David Markovitz opened fire, killing all four. In a heavy attack of mortars and Katyusha rockets that ensued, nine soldiers and and two civilians were injured.

29 Jun 2005 - More than 20 mortars were fired from across the border. Cpl. Uzi Peretz of the Golani Brigade was killed and four soldiers wounded, including the unit's doctor. Fire was exchanged and helicopters and planes attacked five Hezbollah outposts in the Reches Ramim area.

24 Apr 2005 - Several explosive devices exploded near the Lebanese-Israeli border, in the Mount Dov area. Officials believe the devices were planted by Hezbollah, but this was not confirmed. No injuries were reported in the explosions.

7 Apr 2005 - Two Israeli-Arabs from the village of Rajar near the Israel-Lebanon border were kidnapped by Hezbollah operatives and held in captivity for four days. The men, identified as Muki Ben-Jamal and Nuef Maharj Ben-Ali, said they were interrogated by their captors who wanted information on Israel. They were later released. Israeli officials did not believe that any security information had been compromised.

9 Jan 2005 - An explosive device was detonated against an IDF patrol at Nahal Sion. One Israeli soldier was killed, and a UN officer was killed.

20 Jul 2004 - Hezbollah sniper fired at an IDF post in the western sector of the Israeli-Lebanese border. Two IDF soldiers were killed.

7 May 2004 - Fire in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Dennis Leminov was killed, and two other soldiers were severely wounded. The IDF returned fire.

19 Jan 2004 - An anti-tank missile was fired at IDF D9 while neutralizing explosive charges near Zari't. An IDF soldier, Yan Rotzenski, was killed and another soldier was severely wounded.

6 Oct 2003 - Staff Sgt. David Solomonov was killed when Hezbollah fired at an IDF force south of the =46atma Gate in the eastern sector. In addition, the Hezbollah fired missiles and rockets at an IDF post in the Reches Ramim area.

10 Aug 2003 - Haviv Dadon, 16, of Shlomi, was struck in the chest and killed by shrapnel from an anti-aircraft shell fired by Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon. Four others were wounded.

20 Jul 2003 - Hezbollah snipers fired on an Israeli outpost near Chetula, killing two Israeli soldiers. The IDF retaliated with tank fire directed at a Hezbollah position, killing one operative manning the post. That night, there were multiple Israeli flights over Lebanon, two of which generated powerful sonic booms over Beirut.

7 May 2003 - Hezbollah attacked IDF positions in the Sheba' farms with heavy rocket, mortar, and small arms fire. One Israeli soldier was killed and five others were wounded in the attack. Lebanese authorities asserted that the Hezbollah firing had been preceded by an Israeli army foot patrol crossing the Blue Line.

5 May 2003 - A cycle of armed exchanges across the Blue Line began. Israel carried out more than 20 air sorties over the country. Subsequently, Hezbollah fired several anti-aircraft rounds with shrapnel landing inside Israel.

22 Mar 2003 - Hezbollah fired rockets and mortars at Israeli army positions in the Sheba' farms and adjacent areas. This attack followed eight incursions into Lebanese airspace by Israeli aircraft.

6 Jan 2003 - Hezbollah fired anti aircraft shells in the vicinity of Birait in the western sector of the Lebanese border. No one was hurt and no damage was caused.

29 Aug 2002 - Fire at an IDF post in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Ofer Misali was killed, and two other soldiers were lightly wounded.

12 Mar 2002 - Infiltration: In a shooting attack on the Shlomi- Metzuba route. Six Israelis civilians were killed, among them IDF officer Lt. German Rojkov.

7 Aug 2001 - Two houses belonging to senior members of the former Israeli-allied South Lebanon Army militia were blown up using explosive devices. One of the houses belonged to Robin Abboud; the other to Samir Raslan. Hezbollah is suspected.

28 Apr 2001 - A 60 year-old Israeli man was found stabbed to death in Kfar Ba'aneh, near Carmiel in Galilee. The terrorists responsible for the attack were apprehended in July. Six members of a Hezbollah-linked Palestinian terrorist cell responsible for the murder were arrested in July. The murder was the initiation rite of the organization.

14 Apr 2001 - Fire at an IDF post in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Elad Litvak was killed.

1 Apr 2001 - A 42 year-old Israeli woman was stabbed to death in Haifa. Her murder was the initiation rite of a terrorist cell, whose members were apprehended in July. Six members of a Hezbollah-linked Palestinian terrorist cell responsible for the murder, originally thought to be criminally motivated, were arrested in July. The murder was the initiation rite of one of the terrorists into the organization.

16 Feb 2001- Fire at an IDF convoy on Mt. Dov. IDF soldier Elad Shneor was killed, and three other soldiers were wounded.

26 Nov 2000 - A charge was detonated near an IDF convoy. IDF soldier Khalil Taher was killed and two other soldiers were wounded.

7 Oct 2000 - Kidnapping: Three IDF soldiers: Adi Avitan, Omer Soued and Binyamin Avraham were kidnapped by the Hezbollah from the Mt. Dov sector.



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Sources: Ministry of Foreign Affairs; Ministry of Foreign Affairs Summary of Events; RAND Terrorism Database; The Institute for Counter-Terrorism; U.S. State Department Report on Human Rights Practices for 2004


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[Taxloss]

110. Similarly, the OP's facts on Gaza are wrong. There have been 1000+ Qassam

rocket attacks from Gaza since 2002, with 13 killed and hundreds injured. The first to dead were aged two and four.

[Jim__]

108. Thanks for the information.

The American press is extremely misleading on this issue.