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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:50 PM
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Can you help reach 250,000 signers before Congress holds hearings on this
From MoveOn:

Dear MoveOn member,

On Monday, former Vice President Al Gore gave a speech about President Bush's recent admission that he's wiretapping American citizens without the warrants required by law. In the speech—which was sponsored by a coalition of progressive and conservative groups—Gore said it plainly: "What we do know about this pervasive wiretapping virtually compells the conclusion that the president of the United States has been breaking the law, repeatedly and persistently."

Breaking the law to spy on American citizens is a very serious abuse of power, but many members of Congress think people will let it slide. So we're launching a petition today to make it clear that we expect action. The petition asks the Attorney General to appoint a special prosecutor—like Patrick Fitzgerald—to find out the facts, and asks Congress to hold a real investigation into what happened.

Can you help us reach 250,000 signers before we deliver it at the Congressional hearings on Bush's wiretaps in early February? Just go to:


http://political.moveon.org/ruleoflaw
We seldom send you speeches to read or watch, but this address is very important. It's powerful, inspiring, and "reality-based"—Gore cuts through the spin to explain why it is vital that we defend our system of checks and balances and the rule of law. At a time when politicians talk about balancing freedom and safety, Gore makes the case that open democracy and freedom are essential for security. You can watch, listen to, or read the speech here:

http://www.libertyspeeches.org

President Bush has admitted that he personally authorized thousands of apparently illegal wiretaps,1 and he doesn't plan to stop2. In his address Al Gore asked, "If the president has the power to eavesdrop on American citizens without a warrant, imprison citizens on his own declaration, kidnap and torture, then what can't he do?"
Both Republicans and Democrats in Congress are outraged. Even the non-partisan Congressional Research Service released a report indicating that the White House program "conflicts with existing law."3 Republican Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter said he plans to look at the program closely at hearings in Congress next month. 4

Gore's speech is already making President Bush nervous. The White House is in a full-blown spin campaign trying to defend against it. They're in deep trouble on this—and they know it. As former Republican Congressman Bob Barr recently pointed out, the president had full Constitutional authority to legally spy on terrorists. We need to know why he chose to go around it.5

The more pressure we can add, the less Congress and the White House will be able to sweep this problem under the rug. Can you take a moment to sign our petition calling for a special prosecutor now?

http://political.moveon.org/ruleoflaw

No one disagrees that our government must be able to track terrorists. But as Sandra Day O'Connor recently wrote, "It is during our most challenging and uncertain moments . . . that we must preserve our commitment at home to the principles for which we fight abroad."6

Thanks for all you do,

–Eli, Nita, Wes, Jennifer and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Wednesday, January 18th, 2006

P.S. If you want some more information on this issue, here's a briefing on what the Bush administration has said—and what the truth is. As you can see, they're pretty far apart on this issue.

They have claimed this unauthorized wiretap on phone calls and email was legal because of Congressional resolution.8
WRONG: Congress has passed no resolution allowing the president to ignore the 4th Amendment and spy on Americans.9 Moreover, Congress explicitly denied this right to the administration.10

Then they claimed that they did it because they needed to act swiftly.11
WRONG: Current law allows immediate wiretaping, with up to three days after the tap to get the official court order. 12

They claimed that Congress was fully briefed and knowledgeable on the program.13
WRONG: Only a handful of Congressional leaders were briefed on the program. Those who attended briefings were ordered to keep quiet about it.14 When Congressional leaders submitted concerns to Vice President Cheney's office about the program, there was no response. 15 Now, it also seems that the administration wasn't forthcoming on major parts of the program.16

They argued that the administrative overhead is too high.17
WRONG: Too much 'paperwork' is not an excuse to break the laws of the land. If it did prove to be too difficult, the president could have sought to fix the law; after all, that's what the Patriot Act is all about.

They said that the spying program was narrow and limited.18
WRONG: A New York Times article about the program reports that the data from the eavesdropping program was 'swamping investigators.' "The stream soon became a flood, requiring hundreds of agents to check out thousands of tips a month. But virtually all of them, current and former officials say, led to dead ends or innocent Americans."19

The president said the person who leaked the spy program to the New York Times caused great harm to our security and now the Justice Department is involved in an investigation to discover their identity.20
WRONG: Anyone who brings illegal and unconstitutional activity to light is just doing their job—upholding the laws of the land. Our nation has a rich history of protecting whistleblowers—they are heroes who keep our democracy strong.

The administration is now attacking the Clinton-Gore White House by saying they also engaged in warrantless searches of Aldrich Ames' home.
WRONG: The Clinton White House never violated the law in its searches. Warrants were not required for physical searches at that time, and Clinton supported and signed legislation changing the law to require warrants.21

Sources:

1. "Bush: Secret wiretaps won't stop," CNN.com, December 20, 2005
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/19/bush/

2. "Official: Bush Authorized Spying Multiple Times," Associated Press, December 16, 2005
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10488458/

3. "Report Rebuts Bush on Spying," Washington Post, January 7, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1373

4. "Specter: Bush has no `Blank Check' to Spy," Chicago Tribune, January 16, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1384

5. The Situation Room, CNN, January 16, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1374

6. "Real Oversight on the War on Terrorism," San Francisco Chronicle, July 31, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1375

7. "Bush Vigorously Defends Domestic Spying," CBS News, December 19, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1376

8. "Bush Administration's Defense," New York Newsday, December 20, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1385

9. "ACLU Letter to Attorney General Gonzales Requesting the Appointment of Outside Special Counsel," ACLU, December 21, 2005
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/23184leg20051221.html

10. "Daschle: Congress Denied Bush War Powers in US," Washington Post, December 23, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1377

11. "Bush Let U.S. Spy on Callers Without Courts," New York Times, December 16, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1378

12. "Bush Officials Claim Spy Court Cumbersome," Baltimore Sun, December 20, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1386

13. "Cheney Roars Back on Spying, Torture, Iraq," ABC News, December 18, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1379&id=

14. "Surveillance Court Judge Quits in Protest," Seattle Times, December 21, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1380

15. "Letter shows senator raised concerns in '03," Chicago Tribune, December 20, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1387

16. "Bush Vigorously Defends Domestic Spying," CBS News, December 19, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1376

17. "Bush officials claim spy court cumbersome," Baltimore Sun, December 20, 2005
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1386

18. Press Briefing by Scott McClellan, January 3, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1381

19. "Spy Agency Data After Sept. 11 Led F.B.I. to Dead Ends," New York Times, January 17, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1382

20. "Bush Says Leaker Caused Great Harm," MSNBC, January 1, 2006
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10673060/

21. "White House Lobs Accusations Back at Gore," Associated Press, January 17, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1383

Support our member-driven organization: MoveOn.org Political Action is entirely funded by our 3.3 million members. We have no corporate contributors, no foundation grants, no money from unions. Our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. If you'd like to support our work, you can give now at:

http://www.moveonpac.org/donate/

PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, http://political.moveon.org/
Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:53 PM
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1. Signed; thanks! nt
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:00 PM
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2. why thank you! I will sign it in a bit myself!
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:01 PM
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3. Done! K&R
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:10 PM
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5. thanks for both the k and the r! :)
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:05 PM
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4. Signed.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:20 PM
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6. Kick! Pls. Sign! This is a good day for activism! nt
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:56 PM
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7. I know I started this thread but I am NOW signing. LOL! Please K&R!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:00 PM
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8. Done! K &... oh. I can't R. Can you?
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:02 PM
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9. Saw ads on CNN too
About Alito. Well put together ads. Couldn't quite catch who the sponsor was though. Something the courts, I think.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:06 PM
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10. excellent!
Too bad my senator is Hatch (ugh!!). Sure hope Pete Ashdown can beat him www.peteashdown.org
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:54 PM
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17. .
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:09 PM
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11. mail this to your friends:
Dear friend,

Thank you. Your name has been added to the petition and your comments will be delivered to your senators and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

Please take a moment to invite your friends and colleagues to sign. You can just forward the sample letter below.

Spreading the word is critical, but please only pass this message along to those who know you, of course -- spam hurts our campaign.

Thanks for all you do. --The MoveOn.org Political Action Team

Here's a sample message to send to your friends:

Subject: The President Broke the Law

Hi,

President Bush admitted to personally authorizing thousands of allegedly illegal wiretaps, and he doesn't plan to stop. Circumventing the Constitution is serious business.

This is a big moment. People from across the political spectrum are standing together to protect the rule of law and the principles that are core to our identity as Americans.

Can you sign this petition to show Congress that Americans want a thorough investigation of the president's secret wiretapping program?

http://political.moveon.org/ruleoflaw/

Thanks!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:12 PM
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12. We should be asking for 25,000,000 signatures.
Signed and sent out to friend....we really need to support this.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:13 PM
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13. from your keyboard to God's ears!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:00 PM
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20. ..
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:31 PM
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14. DONE. If the NSA wasn't on my ass before, they will be now...
...no doubt - all of us.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:33 PM
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15. no shit...
:scared:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:36 PM
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16. Done
:bounce:
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WhereThereIsFire Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:59 PM
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18. Signed and sent it along to all in my address book too!
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:26 PM
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19. done
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:46 PM
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21. kick
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:49 PM
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22. done, .......k&r................eom
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:19 PM
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23. Done and K&R....Thanks.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:39 PM
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24. kickety
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:06 PM
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25. Done
Thanks
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:57 AM
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26. Done n/t
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:58 AM
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27. Kick!
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:50 AM
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28. Done & kicking it up for President Gore!
:patriot: :kick: :patriot:
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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:26 AM
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29. Done K&R
:kick:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:30 AM
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30. K/R
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:33 PM
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31. kick
:kick:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:01 PM
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32. kick
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