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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:33 PM
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If Dems don't win back one or both houses of Congress in November...
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 04:35 PM by BurtWorm
...it will almost certainly be because Republicans have fucked with the electoral machinery.


http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2006/07/28/dems_2006/index.html?source=rss

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People are angry. More than 60 percent of the voters in the NPR survey believe that the country is "pretty seriously" on the wrong track, while only 31 percent believe it is on the right track. Of those who feel that we're on the wrong track, almost two-thirds blame the war in Iraq or the economy. Another 16 percent blame "Bush in general," and only 6 percent blame illegal immigration.

People are especially angry at the president. Of the 50 districts surveyed by NPR, nine are represented by Democrats and one by an independent; the remaining 40 are represented by Republicans. But Bush's approval rating in these overwhelmingly GOP-held districts is a dismal 42 percent.

People want change. Fewer than three in 10 of the voters in these competitive districts say they are likely to vote for the incumbent. Nearly half say they are likely to vote for "someone else." (Twelve of the 50 seats are open, meaning that there is no incumbent, so that question was asked only in the other 38, of which 30 are held by Republicans.) Nearly half, or 48 percent, say they are likely to vote for the Democrat, while 41 percent say they will probably vote for the Republican. That preference was more than generic -- asked the same question with the names of the districts' candidates, those preferences varied by only 1 percent.

People reject the "moral values" demagoguery. Most voters in the contested districts say that they trust Democrats, not Republicans, on such issues as stem cell research, flag burning and gay rights. Those responses indicate that the summer strategy of setting up phony floor votes on right-wing constitutional amendments -- and the president's first veto -- may have backfired. Fifty-two percent say that the recent stem cell debate made them more inclined to vote for Democrats, and 49 percent said the same about flag burning, gay marriage and other "values issues." Only 29 percent -- essentially the conservative base -- said those debates would motivate them to vote for Republicans.

And people are energized. Low turnouts in recent special elections have suggested that voters in both parties remain apathetic. But if this poll is accurate, that may no longer be true -- for the Democrats, at least. In the NPR survey, Democratic voters were considerably more likely than Republicans or independents to express interest in and enthusiasm for the midterm elections. So were voters who disapprove of Bush.

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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:41 PM
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1. They farkelled up the electoral machinery so badly they should resign
en masse. In flagrante delicto farkelling, IMHO, that the MSM should have exposed, but didn't.
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MrsT Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:42 PM
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2. Yes but look at some of the senate races we need to get a majority
like Nevada or Tennessee or Virginia. The Democrats are behind in those races. They are still winnable, but we could very well lose fair and square.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 05:45 PM
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8. yes, I must agree
taking back the Senate is all but impossible. There are ALOT of races in the house where the Dem is leading an incumbent. I think we have a good chance there.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:43 PM
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3. It will be a repeat of 2000, 2002 and 2006 on a grand scale
the repukes are not consolidating all of that evecutive power to have it go to a stinkin Democrat now are they? Be assured, the fix is in and Democrats will wimper like the last time. MOST Democrats I should say. Conyers and a few others being the exception.

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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:45 PM
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4. Did you see this poll?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904

They most certainly will do something, fraud, nuclear war, marshall law.

To quote Mark Crispin Miller-- These people have been waiting to have complete controll for 40 years. They are in power and they are NOT leaving!
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JAYJDF Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:54 PM
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5. Well then. Since we all agree that we don't believe the repubs
will relinquish power by whatever means, what's next? I mean, what options are there? Seriously, is our only resolve violence? If we truly believe this, why isn't more being done to stop this? If still seemingly impossible, then more effort needs to be spent toward the plan B.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 05:22 PM
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6. The fix is in
we will not take back either the House or Senate. "They" will manipulate the count to ensure that "they" remain in power.

My only hope is that this will be SO OBVIOUS that the American people will not tolerate this any longer - but I doubt it....
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 05:32 PM
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7. the problem is gerrymandering, not fixed machines
I'll admit it could be both now, but for how many years have we had a 98% rate of return for incumbants? Since long before voting machines.
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