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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:01 PM
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Several people shot at Jewish Federation in Seattle
BREAKING NEWS:
Several people shot at Jewish Federation in Seattle
04:56 PM PDT on Friday, July 28, 2006

SEATTLE – At least three people have been shot at the Jewish Federation at 2031 Third Ave. in downtown Seattle. One person has been taken into custody.

Police have taken one person into custody but there may be more suspects in or around the building. Police have their weapons pointed toward the second floor of the building.

The three victims are believed to be women. One was reportedly shot in the abdomen and another was shot in the arm. They are being taken to Harborview Medical Center.

The incident began around 4 p.m. Part of Third Avenue and Second Avenue near Lenora have been closed to traffic. Police are urging people to stay away from the area.

more at:
http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.king5.com%2Flocalnews%2Fstories%2FNW_072806WABshootingEL.3d89c1.html
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:02 PM
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1. so stupid shit hits here. this is wrong. damned wrong. like any one
of us can stop anything.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:05 PM
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2. We're essentially trapped downtown right now
The buses are standing still, sirens have been wailing for an hour, and helicopters are flying around. They don't seem to have figured out an alternative way to get the buses out.
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:08 PM
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5. Where are you downtown? Are you on a bus?
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:10 PM
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6. No, I'm in a building
but I am only about eight blocks away and I can see all the buses just sitting there.
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:12 PM
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11. 4th Ave. seems to be full of stopped buses.
Could be a while for you...sorry!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:11 PM
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8. Evacuating bed and bath now--a few blocks down the street
Stay safe.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:05 PM
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3. Local news monitoring it closely
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 07:10 PM by Generic Other
Unclear where the second gunman is.

video on KING 5: http://www.king5.com/w/
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:08 PM
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4. KOMO 4: At Least Three Shot At Jewish Center In Seattle
July 28, 2006

SEATTLE - At least three people were wounded by gunshots Friday afternoon at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle and one person was arrested, police said.

A SWAT team was searching the building, looking for any other victims, anyone hiding or any other possible shooters, police spokesman Rich Pruitt said.

The extent of the victims' injuries was not immediately known, but reportedly at least two were shot in the stomach, and they were being taken to Harborview Medical Center. A witness told KOMO 4 News that she heard at least four gunshots and saw four victims.

Police blocked off several city blocks to investigate.

MORE
http://www.komotv.com/stories/44656.htm
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:13 PM
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12. "Somebody must have lied there way in," Simon said.
Imangine that! Simon speaks in misspelled words. :dunce:


When the "journalists" can't spell, I grieve for the dumbing down of my country.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:28 PM
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29. Oh come on.
It's English's most commonly misspelled word, it's breaking news, and he's a human being.

By the way, was "imangine" a joke?
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nick303 Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:22 PM
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82. Looks like they corrected it. n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:49 PM
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84. Yep. I noticed.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:11 PM
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7. Oh, nooooo!
Is it spreading? :cry: The disease of sectarian violence, is it spreading?

I hate to see exacerbation of division in this country. Isn't is bad enough?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:15 PM
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13. It's probably a nutcase of the Washington state variety
The suspect I saw being put in a police car was white. He called the police to tell them after the shooting.

No one knows yet what the motive is.

Victims: 3 women shot. One 17 weeks pregnant. Shot in arm. 43 year old woman. 2 others wounded.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:20 PM
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20. Very sad
One more loony.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:11 PM
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:15 PM
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14. Oh good grief I hope not!
Yikes.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:17 PM
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15. !
:yoiks:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:17 PM
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17. Hezbollah's missiles reach Haifa.
That, however, doesn't count, does it?
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:12 PM
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10. Good grief! This is some nasty shit!
Could you please update as more info. is available?
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:17 PM
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16. Yeah - white supremacist is my guess
but who knows?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:18 PM
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18. My guess too
We have such a stupid variety living around here.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:23 PM
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24. I'll be surprised if they are not, but the supremist groups always
distance themselves from the perpetrators by saying that although he was once a member of their group no one had seen him around for a long time. You wait and see.

And these are the guys who are patrolling our borders.
:eyes:
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:26 PM
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27. There has been some talk
about Jewish organizations being targeted because of current events.

I'm glad I decided to catch the 4 o'clock bus home--I was working at an office on 3rd today. Hope you're okay and not stuck downtown.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:19 PM
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19. I've been afraid something like this would happen
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:51 PM
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78. me too..and I'm still afraid of it happening again
and not just some individual and/or groups attacking Jewish Americans....but I worry about individuals and/or groups attacking Muslim Americans as well.


America's not exactly free of racism and hate. Sadly :(
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:21 PM
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21. Sounds like our friends the neo-Nazis are at work again.
One of them shot a bunch of children and adults in a Jewish community center in Los Angeles around ten years ago.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:22 PM
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22. He was from Tacoma
And dumber than a box of bent nails.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:23 PM
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23. He had a college degree.
With diversity training. Go figure.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:24 PM
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25. So does our President.
eom
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:26 PM
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28. Yale cheater?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:33 PM
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32. Nope. That guy bought his way through.
I know a person in the financial aid office of that LA shooter's alma mater. She took a gander at his records after the shooting. You wouldn't have guess it based on his file.

:shrug:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:55 PM
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46. Buford Furrow's "wake up call for America"
Buford got his gun from the Bullseye Gun shop in Tacoma, which also armed the Beltway Sniper. In all, they had no paperwork on nealry 300 guns missing from their inventory.

You may be interested to know that thanks to gun nuts, the gun lobby and the GOP, the Bullseye Gun Shop is STILL in business. However, the GOP passed laws that freed gun stores like Bullseye from keeping a written ivnetory and forbade the ATF from releasing information on who sells crime guns.

This fuckwit also remains in business thanks to the GOP....

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002005208_gun14m.html
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:00 PM
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53. Buford was the guy I was referring to in my post #21 above.
He also killed a Phillipino mailman because he wasn't white.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:07 PM
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62. Exactly so....
You will notice that when the triggerhappy here start one or another of their "You gotta getta gun" threads, the itch to shoot somebody "to protect us from tyranny" is never very far from the surface.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:21 PM
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67. Oh, please...
I didn't come to this thread to turn it into a discussion about guns. You did.

It's disrepectful to the shooting victims. Please, think before you speak.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:27 PM
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70. Give your popgun fetish a rest derby
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 08:32 PM by MrBenchley
You're in another thread pimping for assault weapons this very minute.

And did you think that the shooter here threw the bullets and shouted bang? It's a discussions about guns and about yet another tragedy caused by the idiotic policies triggerhappy boboes like you are cheerleading for.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:45 PM
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73. And still you disrespect the victims of this shooting
Please stop.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:47 PM
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #73
75. Both of you stop it.
Please.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:21 PM
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68. My DH and I spent a summer up in Northeastern Washington.
We were working in one of the campgrounds there. Farrow was one of the locals there at the time and we sort of new him by sight. Since guns are all over the place up there with the hunting culture, we didn't take much notice of the locals except one of my fellow workers who pretty much filled us in on what was going on.

I was really shocked when the Los Angeles shooting happened and even more shocked to find out that he was a member of the Aryan Nation.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:24 PM
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69. Tim McVeigh spent years mooching around gun shows
Didn't stand out much at all from the other crazies....
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:26 PM
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26. Now reporting 5-7 victims, 3 shot, 1 dead, all women
1 person in custody. Between 5 and 7 wounded.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:30 PM
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31. I'm speechless. This is really terrible.
If being stuck downtown for a while is the worst of my problems, I really can't complain. This SUCKS. What is WRONG with people?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:36 PM
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36. Right now they are probably just being overcautious
Just stay safe. No need to panic. Looks insane though. Mostly the cops running around with huge guns!!
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:39 PM
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38. I know - thanks
I'll just stay inside until my ride gets here (no bus for me tonight). I think I'd actually be afraid to take a bus.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:59 PM
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49. Oh hell.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:29 PM
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30. OMG. chills are running up and down my arms. i can't even
type anymore. :scared:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:33 PM
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:33 PM
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34. One witness reports the shooter said he was upset about Israel situation
hearsay, but scary nonetheless. This is what happenes when half-truths, lies, propaganda disguised as news finally filters across the globe into the brains of the morans of America!!
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Pierzin Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:48 PM
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40. Holy Mother of God!!! What is going through someones head
30 seconds before they do something like this????

One Dead, At Least 5 Shot At Seattle Jewish Center
headline
5 shot?? One woman outside of Starbucks?? Did the gunman know the woman worked there then? It's pure lunacy. How can anyone in a provincial city like this have any bearing whatsoever on what happens over there?

:yoiks:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:55 PM
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79. BUT, the report is a white male was taken into custody.
Very confusing!!!!

Neo-nazi inspired by Israeli attacks on Lebanon? Does that make any fucking sense?

On the other hand, the Neocons have created an opportune environment for all radicals to rise.

Shit. When when those spoiled, gullible ideologues finally ACCEPT that their perception of humanity and world vision is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!

:grr:

Force them to be the victims of their own actions,...then, they will GET IT!!!

:mad:
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:36 PM
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35. Did I hear this right
Suspect is a Pakistani national from the Tri Cities. Possibility that there is a bomb in the building. Bomb Squad going through the building now. From KING 5 news.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:38 PM
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37. I'm on KOMO Haven't heard that!! Oh my god.
You're right.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:53 PM
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42. I heard the same thing.
The facts in this situation are changing minute to minute.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:00 PM
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51. The facts are getting more horrific.
I haven't turned on CNN yet, but this is the sort of thing they should jump on.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:41 PM
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39. Thoughts and prayers for the victims of this senseless violence
All you DUers up there right now -- stay safe!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:52 PM
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41. A Pakistani national
According to witnesses, he said "I'm a Muslim American and I'm mad at Israel." Then he started shooting.

His vehicle found down the street. They are checking it for explosives. City on alert. Police to alert synagogues. They think he's a lone individual.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:54 PM
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43. He's a fucking freak. Wonder who put him up to it?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:54 PM
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45. HEZBOLLAH!
:hide:
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #45
52. iranian backed hezzbollah sleeper cells
right here in the us.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. We better invade Venezuela.
That'll learn those Spaniards.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:19 PM
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66. they did say last week that they were going to hit the US
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:06 PM
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81. Po, Tinky Winky, La La and Dipsy?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:58 PM
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80. What bullshit.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:59 PM
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48. Everyone who keeps rooting for one side or another in this conflict
My position anyway.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. Good post.
:thumbsup:
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:02 PM
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57. .
:thumbsup:
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:56 PM
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47. "Persecution Complex"
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 07:57 PM by PCIntern
Not us...

Keep telling us how we deserve this...come on..let's hear it now.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:01 PM
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55. I have not made any such statement!
I want to see all sides negotiate a ceasefire now.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:03 PM
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59. I didn't accuse you personally of saying anything
I was commenting on all those who use that phrase on DU...I didn't see you do that...but you have to respond to someone in a thread to post.

Don't worry, if you get on my nerves, I'll let you know! LOL somewhat...
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:01 PM
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54. he could have just gone to lebanon and joined Hizbollah.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:02 PM
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58. Oh goody, I hope this does not effect Bush's relationship with NUKILAR
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 08:04 PM by Nimrod2005
Pakistan...They are our ally in the war on terra...
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #41
63. a pakistani from the tri cities
boy i would hate to be a minority in the tri cities!
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:03 PM
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60. A drunk Pakistani on Friday night? should've skipped happy hour dumb fuck
NT
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:14 PM
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64. We Need More Police Security Every High Holiday
In the 90's we had a big rise in vandalism of synagogues around the Chicago area. Many who were caught were punk skinheads, but it started the need to beef up security. That accelerated in the late 90s when several Orthodox Jews in the area were attacked on their way to a local synagogue and was followed up by more vandalism. Things got even worse in 2000 when a disciple of Matthew Hale...a fundie racist shot up the West Rogers Park neighborhood...that is predominately Jewish and then killed the former black head coach of Northwestern University as he played with his kids in his driveway. Security has gotten tighter and tighter ever since.

A good portion of our budget for our synagogue now is strictly for security...be it a "high tech" 24/7 camera system to having actual guards posted in and around our houses of worship...and this is in a "conservative" town. No, it's not Arab extremists who make the threats, it's nice white xtian boys who still think the Jews killed Jesus and we control all the money.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:16 PM
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65. its the same way here in LA
i notice most of the synagogues and schools and such have high walls around them now, since that punk in the 90's i guess.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:32 PM
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71. Oh bullshit. What do you want a worse police state than we already
have? Police can't catch two serial killers here. They aren't worth their salt. Every man is on his own these days.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:37 PM
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72. Wow are you off base...
My synagogue has been threatened continuously...the religious school which meets on Wednesday has been policed closely for years. The pre-school has enormous security devices and protocols because there are reasons.

the kids should not be on their own...that's our responsiblity.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:48 PM
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76. I didn't say kids should be left alone! I said police state is not
the answer.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:49 PM
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83. Huh?
I'd prefer that there be no security guards at our synagogue and the concept where people can worship peacefully without having to fear either physical or mental intimidation...that's what I'm refering to. It'd be nice to return to the days when we didn't have to spend several thousand dollars a year for a PRIVATE security company to watch the property or have to ask the local police for protection, DURING THE DAY, so people can worship freely. I'm not a religious person by any means, but I do respect the rights of those who feel they need to worship...as long as their faith remains private and not part of my life or the body politic.

Our society has been fed on tons of violence...all problems are solved with a gun, all disputes settled with destroying the other. We have a culture where hatred is encouraged and all but celebrated. I see plenty of it right here on DU.

Peace...
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smitty Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:51 PM
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77. All the victims were woman, one was pregnant.
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