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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:23 PM
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Notice to DU’ers concerning their posting tact,
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 10:00 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
or more specifically lack thereof.

The other day there was a news story posted here concerning a knife attack at a grocery store in Memphis. This was not one of the chain store operations and had an unusual name indicating it might be family owned. The name sounded as if it could be potentially Jewish so I made a post inquiring of anyone in the Memphis area who might know if it was Jewish owned. The reason I made the inquiry is that given the world condition being what it is, it would not surprise me if there is a backlash in this country by some against Jews.

Tonight, I log in to DU and find a posting concerning this story in Seattle about a shooting in a Jewish center there tonight.

http://www.komotv.com/

This is exactly the kind of thing I had a concern about and why I had made the inquire on the Memphis thread to begin with.

For doing such I was accused by other posters as being everything from an anti-semitic to a troll from Freerepublic. I think the story that is unfolding tonight in Seattle vindicates my question and I will look forward to apologies from the posters here that made such vitriolic accusations against my character and my intent.

However I will not be holding my breath while I wait.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:28 PM
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1. agreed. i'll never forget the week after 9/11 when some poor Seikh
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 09:28 PM by AZDemDist6
got gunned down in my town of Phoenix just because he wore a turban :cry:

this country is getting loonier and loonier

sorry you got attacked for asking a reasonable question :hug:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. Yes, our news media goes on and on about Islamic fanatics
when we should be spending more time worried about our own crazies especially since many of them are now in the upper levels of government.

As a side note, I targeted this thread to those who had much such offensive posts, but doubt seriously that even if they see it I will here from any of them.
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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #9
32. With good reason IMO
Just look at what happened in Seattle tonight. :(
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #1
11. In OKlahoma...
...a Native American woman was told "go back to your country" before being hit with a car! :crazy:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #11
23. This is the kind of thing that causes me serious concern about
our educational system.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:00 PM
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I do remember that death
Very sad times after 911. Race crimes and attacks on Mosques all over the US.

My best friends husband was not allowed to board a flight because he looked Middle Eastern when he is in fact Puertorican!! He was harrased by the police for 45 minutes and had to pay a fee to board another flight to return home. He was even afraid of going outside the house. It was crazy.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:29 PM
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2. I wasn't one of those who offended you, but I know sometimes
people, even here on DU, jump to unfair conclusions. I think we have to have some thick skin sometimes.

I did read your post though. Did you ever find out any more info on the Memphis shooting? I'm in Ga. so if it was considered a local story, I wouldn't hear anything.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:50 PM
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15. No, I did a follow up search on it yesterday but did not find anything.
However, I am having a problem with my web browser on the google page. I installed some language packs, one of them being greek, in Office 2000 the other day and now my google page comes up in Greek even though I currently have the language set to english.

I tried to go the the Microsoft support page and it came up in Greek. So for the moment I am kind of screwed.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:01 PM
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21. Check this link.
Is this the one you were talking about

8 Employees Stabbed at Tenn. Grocery Store

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/22/ap/national/mainD8J0QQ300.shtml

Sorry I don't know how to help you with your Google problem. There's a forum here on DU for electronic and computer advice, you might try there.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. Ok, so they established a motive
But at the time of the posting we did not know that and like I said, I fully expect assaults against Jews to start happening in this country.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #24
33. That wouldn't surprise me wither. I wasn't trying to point out
wether you were right or wrong, just trying to help you out by doing the google search for you.

Hope you get your Greek Google straightened out.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. Thanks, I appreciate that.
I will eventually get it corrected, I just have to be able to find the time.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:29 PM
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3. i did not see your thread nor did i post in the Seattle thread
But I am getting sick of a FEW BAD APPLES making trouble and it being labeled as the actions of EVERYONE ON DU.

There are over 92000 registered users here. There are bound to be some bad apples. Please use the ignore and stop labeling all of DU based on a few posters actions.

My 2 cents.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #3
26. I am not labeling all DU's, but I would expect the mods to be
able to see what was going on and not delete my post.

Just my 2 cents.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:30 PM
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4. Anti-semitic.
The word you're looking for is "anti-semitic."

But I suppose that's just semantics. ;)
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:35 PM
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6. I was in a lengthy (2 1/2 hour) meeting today....
in which one of the participants kept complaining about dissecting words. (I agreed with him but had to keep my counsel. Damn meeting was an effing waste of time.) Did that make him anti-semantic?
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #6
30. Groan, look, I said I fixed it.
:bounce:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Thanks, I didn't notice that. n/t
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:56 PM
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18. Lol! Well I for one am 'anti-semantic' and proud of it.
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 10:04 PM by Dover
I prefer singular meanings.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Ok, Ok, I fixed it.
:-)
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #19
39. .
:thumbsup:

I'm sorry to have busted your chops like that. It was just, I dunno, so RIGHT THERE.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #39
40. Oh, don't feel too bad as I probably would not have passed up
the opportunity. Like you said it was so "right there."

:toast:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:31 PM
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5. People are on edge. Their knees jerk too fast and hit them in the head
preventing them from thinking things through before they attack others.

Sorry you have been attacked. Lots of us have. Amazes me how I can be anti-Semitic AND a Zionist all on the same day, but according the the judges at DU, I manage. :shrug: Guess if you question everything, lots of people get pissed off that their pet ox got grilled.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #5
22. LOL!
:rofl:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #5
31. And since I am going to Torah study tomorrow
and am considering converting, I wondered the same thing. :toast:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:36 PM
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7. If you want to see some TRULY disgusting comments
and haven't vomited recently, you could look at some comments that show up on OTHER discussion boards, such as

http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apseattleshooting&sid=37138445&mid=11523
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:48 PM
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12. Which is why I am SO thankful this board is moderated!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:52 PM
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16. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #16
34. Well, when you become a mod you can apply your own standards
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 10:36 PM by karlrschneider
as you interpret them within the rules.

I'm not jabbing you, just sayin' that's how it works around here. Every one of us, including those who have donated, are still here at the pleasure of the owners of the site. We are guests in Skinner's house, it's really just that simple.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #12
20. Exactly. I think I have a masochistic streak to even poke around
over there.

It's as bad as ....you know where....
:eyes:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #20
25. You must. Because I can't stomach it!
Personally, it makes the FR look balanced...now how scary is that?!
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #20
28. Well here they don't delete you account as soon as you say
something that is not part of the official party line. But sometimes I think the modes react too quickly to a couple of winers without looking at the substantive issue at hand.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:45 PM
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8. People are so quick to judge others these days...it seems that
the "Us vs. Them" mentality has prevailed.

Not only is "them" the right wingers, but now some of us are turning on other DU'ers.

Sorry that you were attacked by other DU'ers...some people feel that they can judge others based on a single post on a message board.

If that was the case, we would ALL be fucked.

Hang in there and don't let them get you down.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:48 PM
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13. W's warmongering is spreading like an infectious cancer
After years of peace, W reintroduced violence as a solution to problems. One ethnic group against the other.

We must all take a deep breath and realize there is only one race, the human race and we're into this together.

The warring and violence must stop.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:49 PM
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14. I believe the PNACers are radicalizing ALL extremists, ON PURPOSE.
The extremists provide the PNACers "rationalizations" for their illusionary "vision".

That is my belief.

The reason why that is my belief is because PNACers believe deception, deception and chaos will serve their cause to rule the world. They totally belive in their own superiority and have no feelings about the consequences about their actions in this country and around this world. They are the ULTIMATE form of "elitists" and shit upon and use any/everyone in their way.

The world was beginning to focus upon a higher order of humanity. The PNACers destroyed that because, it didn't serve their ideological interests.

The PNACers are TAKERS and ABUSERS and CRIMINAL and SAVAGE.

THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RISE OF DIVISION, INTOLERANCE, HATRED AND WAR (TERRORISM).

Fuck them. *LOL* Nothing personal!!! :grr:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. And unfortunately some here, and more importantly, in the
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 10:01 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
government, are playing right into their hand.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:10 PM
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29. Being human, witnessing their destruction, even I am somewhat,...
,..."radicalized" against "them",...those who intentionally deceive, manipulate, destroy, cause chaos. They can NEVER divide me against the one race with which I am a member, the human race. They do cause my loathing of "them" to grow. Unfortunately, I have lost any capacity to forgive them,...that's how their savagery has infected me. I actually dream of them being the innocents subjected to their blind ambitions. I suppose, those dreams relieve me of the extreme injustices they have imposed.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:06 PM
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27. If you want problems with posting tact...
I'm not naming names, but someone in GD tried to hijack a thread on violent crime and turn it into a referendum on gun control. In the context of the thread, I found it highly inappropriate.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:00 PM
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35. why do you hate Jews?
just kidding! ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #35
38. Cute
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:06 PM
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36. Agreed. A little tact could easily cut down on the flame wars here.
Ignoring non-constructive criticism and taking the time to read and understand the intent of posters would make this a much nicer place to be.

Put the big egos away and the weenies will leave on their own.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #36
41. It sounds to me like a misunderstanding.
We can't see each other's expressions or tone of voice when we read a post. It's easy to misunderstand what someone is trying to say.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #41
44. Then in such instances, and I understand what you are saying,
don't you think it might be good protocol to ask for a clarification?
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:01 AM
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42. What? Someone jumped to sweeping, generalized conclusions on DU?
Say it ain't so! :sarcasm:

There are certain screaming Mimi's on DU that immediately glom on to any comment without thinking and attack the poster without having the entire picture.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #42
43. So I gathered.
I was really astounded as I have had the occasional snarky reply and so on but these were just out and out vicious. And while I don't post here a lot, I had just never had anything like that happen.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #43
45. Join the club, and don't let it prevent you from sharing your opinion.
I don't! :-)
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