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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:39 AM
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Is Bush Trying to Dodge the Gallows?
Could George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and maybe Alberto Gonzales all end up sucking poison gas?


That, apparently, is a concern now being taken seriously by Attorney General Gonzales, who is quietly working with senior White House officials and friendly members of Congress to do what murderous dictators in Chile, Argentina and other bloodthirsty regimes have done as their future in office began to look uncertain: pass laws exempting them from prosecution for murder.


At issue is a growing legal threat of the president and other top administration officials facing prosecution for violations of the U.S. War Crimes statutes, which since 1996 have made violation of Geneva Conventions adopted by the U.S. violations of American law, too.


Gonzales knows the seriousness of this threat. As he warned the president, in a January, 25, 2002 "Memorandum to the President" (published in full in the appendix of Barbara Olshansky’s and my new book, The Case for Impeachment), "It is difficult to predict the motives of prosecutors and independent counsels who may in the future decide to pursue unwarranted charges based on Section ." In another part of that same memo, Gonzales notes that the statute "prohibits the commission of a `war crime'" by any U.S. official, with a war crime being defined as "any grave breach of" the Geneva Convention on the Treatment of Prisoners of War or of the Geneva Convention's Article 3. That article extends protection to combatants in other than official wars or formal armies. Gonzales, in that memo, also pointedly notes that the punishments for such violations, under U.S. law, in the event that mistreated captives die in custody, "include the death penalty."

a lot more:
http://thiscantbehappening.net/2006.07.01_arch.html#1154109014028
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:42 AM
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1. Don't you think that any law they pass will be reviewed once the
political powers change? Whatever they pass now, will have to be followed retroactively, since they have already committed the crime, and a Democratic legislature may have a problem with that.

What needs to be looked into, are those conservative judges they appointed. THOSE are the ones who may rubber-stamp their laws.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:52 AM
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2. There is no guarantee of that in this political climate.
I predict that if and when the Dems regain controll of congress, the whore media and every Criminal currently in positions of power will be shrilly and loudly declaring that:

"we should set aside all bitterness and move forward", and

"that is past - we should think about the future" crap, or

"we can't possibly put the country thru THAT...", and

"Oh, that's SILLY, we have much more important things to worry about now...

I can hear the crys now...

And there will be some DINOS like Biden and others leading the charge FOR the repukes!

It will be vicious and volumnous.

Mark my words.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:06 PM
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4. Bookmark your post. I fear we'll hear every one of those comments
after the next election.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:03 PM
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3. The Sir Robin Strategy
The Rethugs will make the bill retroactive and add some language to the bill that says the word "terror" 15 times. The Democrats will see the word "terror" and apply the Sir Robin strategy.

Then maybe they'll go on an Estonian vodka-guzzlin' junket to get calm down after their brush with death.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 01:27 PM
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7. It can't be made retroactive.
<i>Ex Post Facto.</i>
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:07 PM
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6. Exacatly. Saddam probably had immunity when he ws DICTATOR, too.
Later? Not so much!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:06 PM
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5. Butch has no freaking IDEA. WHo the hell is gonna break the news to him?
When they were afraid to tell him Katrina had destroyed our 35th largest city? Which, I might add, he didn't give a shit about, anyway!

He cannot be woken from his nap without starting a goddamned invasion. NOBODY's gonna tell him he's toting up war crimes! THE ONLY LAWYER THEY REMOTELY LISTEN TO IS ADDINGTON, and ABuGonzo don't know JACK.

Butch will be very very very very surprised one day. Who can pardon a man for war crimes? Nobody but his God (lol) and that comes in the afterlife, if at all.
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