Middle East Turmoil? Blame It All On Reagan.

[stopbush]

He's the guy who made the deal with Iran to hold the release of our hostages until he was sworn in as president. That kept Carter's numbers down
for the 1980 election. No way the emerging religious state of Iran wanted Carter - who brokered the peace deal between Egypt & Israel - to remain in office.
They were much happier with Reagan. Even before he was made president, Reagan showed the terrorists of the world that he would work with them if
it benefitted him and his RW agenda.

To show his appreciation, Reagan later KNOWINGLY & ILLEGALLY sold arms to Iran, diverting the illegal profits to fund his illegal Contras in Central America.
The Contras formed death squads and murdered nuns. This was done ILLEGALLY in direct contravention of the Bolland amendment.

These actions showed the entire ME that Republicans would not only go soft on terrorists, but that they would eventually sell arms to terrorists as well.

Reagan armed Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan. He brought OBL's fellow Afghani fighters to the WH and called them the equivalent of our founding fathers.

283 Marines were killed in their Beirut barracks during Reagan's first term. His solution was to CUT-N-RUN from the ME. This chicken shit action showed the ME that
Americans will flee when the body count goes too high.

By 1984, Reagan had REMOVED Iraq from the USA's list of terrorist states and began selling arms to BOTH Iran & Iraq in their conflict (which ran from 1980-89).

And, just to show he was an equal opportunity offender, he went to Bitberg, Germany, and laid a wreath at the tombs of Nazi SS soldiers, even after Elie Weisel (on behalf
of the world's Jews) delivered an impassioned plea to Reagan to not do so (I remember watching this on live TV). Reagan said "Fuck you" to the world's Jews and went anyway.

It really is all Reagan's fault. He derailed the peace initiatives that Carter started, he sold arms to terrorists and so much more. Of course, many of Reagan's advisors are now
advising Dim Son. How about that?

I guess that's why today's republicans idolize him so much. He was a real American hero!

[K8-EEE]

1. k&r!!! The "Freedom Fighter" Bullshit Just Kills Me...

THEY decide who to call "freedom fighters" and who to call "terrorists." Guess what. If you invade & occupy a country they will shoot at you til you leave. DUH!!!

[rubberducky]

2. But.....But......But.....

It`s really all Clinton`s fault,don`t ya know?

[TheFarseer]

3. Those are all very good points

Regan was a fraud. I can scarcely say anything nice about him.

[Syrinx]

4. actually, I think it was Bush Sr...

That was responsible for most of that stuff.

[ck4829]

5. I don't condone the actions of fellow Muslims

But to say that the current problem of Islamic Terrorism was not incubated, nurtured, and armed thanks to the Republican Party is sheer lunacy.

Thank you for this thread.

[Redstone]

6. Now THAT's a hell of a post! Excellent. And dead right.

Redstone

[radwriter0555]

7. Reagan was the puppet of Poppy Bush and the bush cabal...including

the exact same players as are in the scene today. Nothing has changed, just the face on the coin.

I actually do excuse Reagan's crimes because I know for absolute fact that Poppy Bush was the man behind the machine.

After all, what can a guy do when his vice president tries to kill him? Why... go golfing of course.

The Bush Regime has been the architect of US politics since Reagan was in office, sad to say, and will continue for many more years.

[Redstone]

9. "His VP tries to kill him?" More, please. I think you're on to something

there, about bush and rumsfeld and cheney, but I don't get that part. Would like to hear more.

Redstone

[radwriter0555]

11. It's long been suggested that bush senior had the phony assassination

attempt made on reagan as reagan was pulling the "I want to be king" game... reagan wanted to actually do the job he believed he was elected to do. The bush cabal had other ideas and staged the assassination attempt to show him that they meant business. After that, Ronnie literally went golfing for the rest of his term and did what he was told.

Wolfie, rummy, cheney and bush have political history together dating back to the early 70's and were tied to nixon's handy little scandal as well. Word on that is that bush set nixon up as he was the chairman of the RNC.

Details, I'm sadly short on, and it was a long time ago. Put the puzzle pieces together over 5 years ago and never looked back.

[TroubleMan]

14. Hinckley's brother was scheduled to have dinner with Neil Bush that night.

The Hinckley family were a heavy campaign contributors to Bush.

Also, Bush bailed out an oil company owned by Hinckley's dad. The company went bankrupt and Hinckley walked away with millions.

on edit: just google hinckley bush dinner http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&as_qdr=all&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=hinckley+bush+dinner&spell=1

[sandnsea]

10. Nixon was a Bush protege too

And Rummy and Cheney were in that Administration as well as Ford's. No wonder things got so screwed up in the 70's, at home and overseas.

[BlueIris]

8. Oh, I do blame Reagan. And Truman.

[Coexist]

12. there was just an interesting special on CNN re: Beirut

and our history there. The phrase "cut and run" was used.

[TroubleMan]

13. Don't forget who was in charge of the failed rescue mission:

Ollie North, Secord, and Casey.

All of them later got top positions under Reagan, and all of them involved in Iran-Contra.

How convenient.

[raysr]

15. I STILL hate

Reagan!