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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:21 AM
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Deer found to be 10 times more likely to kill you than all dogs combined
Found this interesting compilation of "death due to" statistics: http://www.arthurhu.com/index/health/death.htm#deathrank

A less specific, but more authoritative site wiith the same kind of info:
http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm

Thought a reality check might be needed by those who get so easily conned by the dog or shark scare stories so popular in the media.

And CANDLES! OMFG, far more likely to kill you than any dog! -- Ban them all before they kill again!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:34 AM
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1. A 71 year old woman was killed by pitt bulls here in KC this week
not deer.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:54 AM
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8. Are you sure it was a pit bull?
Most people mistake other large dogs such as mastiffs, etc for Pit Bulls.
Do you even know what a pit bull looks like?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:54 AM
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30. The news media reported it was a pit bull and there were pictures of the
dog on the front page of the paper. It was a pit bull. It jumped a fence and attacked the 71 year old woman while she was gardening in her own backyard.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:35 AM
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2. I'd like to see a deer rip your face off or chew your arm, or set upon you
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 12:36 AM by radwriter0555
in a pack and destroy every limb on your body -- (not you per se, you in the 3rd person sense.)

Granted while fatalities from dogs are rare, thank goodness, injuries from dog attacks are exceedingly high and terribly catastrophic and traumatic.

Comparing the fatalities of deer and dogs is moot, since few people have deer capable of taking off your hand living in their homes.

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:38 AM
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4. Strawman!
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 12:45 AM by kgfnally
The OP was talking about deaths from car collisions with deer.

The OP was not talking about people who keep deer as pets.

Deer are prey animals.

Dogs are not.

edited to add: The presence of deer is more likely to cause death than the presence of dogs. I've hit a deer in a car, and I was lucky to live.

I got aggressively approached (NOT attacked) by a dog, and I wasn't injured. Why?

Because I knew how to be the alpha male to the dog.

DUUUUHHHH......
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:48 AM
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5. where the animal happens to sleep is bogus.
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 12:50 AM by ConsAreLiars
If you want to rank the likelihood of being killed at random by some animal, then sharks and dogs should be far further down your list of personal pants-pissing terrors than deer, or horses, for that matter. Kill them all! ??? Is that your slogan?

(edit to add) Of course, humans should top your personal list of terrifying animates.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:50 AM
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19. Please. Horse, deer & sharks don't attack one in ones backyard,
and they're not generally neighborhood pets, either.

malaria proably kills even MORE than the above. The point is?
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:09 AM
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23. Where they kill you may matter to you. ??? But if you are worried about
getting killed by some animal, rather than where, or where they sleep, you should be far more afraid of deer and horses than dogs. Only if you are rational, of course.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:42 AM
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25. Baloney. HIPPOS kill more peopel in Africa than any other animal
But I dont' woory 'bout what I'm not exposed to.

Your logic is leaky.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:23 AM
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28. Cool, I propose an open hunting season on dogs too
I cant stand the stupid little shit boxes
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:37 AM
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3. Nothing kills a good moral panic like a few facts. n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:56 AM
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9. What about the gay-marrying flag-burning aligators? n/t
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:25 AM
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31. That paints an ugly picture of "getting some head." n/t
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:49 AM
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6. Delete
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 12:51 AM by rawtribe
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:49 AM
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7. I've seen
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 12:51 AM by rawtribe
elk, deer, mountain lions, bear, coyotes and the neighbors dog in my yard. My biggest fear has to be the tourist!


:crazy:
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ThsMchneKilsFascists Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:06 AM
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10. Easy Explanation
Dogs go squish, deer go bang
Leaving highway incidents aside, how do the figures look?
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:16 AM
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12. Candles are far more lethal than dogs, if you want to exclude deer.
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 01:17 AM by ConsAreLiars
By the numbers, banning candles, or hot water heaters, would be far more effective in saving lives, and those of you so terrified by dogs might want to take these self-preservation actions first. Or find a good shrink.

(edit because a . and a , are different)
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SensibleAmerican Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:19 AM
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13. If someone is terrified of dogs, doesn't he have the right ...
not to be around dogs? Or is this like Abu Ghraib where we torture people who have a fear of dogs by shoving them into their faces?
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:32 AM
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14. If you are terrified by "whatever harmless phobia" you have every
right to act however you think might protect you (barring harm to others). Making your fears (of dogs, ladders, round things, whatever) into law, as some authoritarian types want, to advocate the extermination of that which they fear, is another thin hg altogether.
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SensibleAmerican Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:53 AM
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20. Agree totally
With the caveat that if someone's dog is harassing someone who is fearful of dogs and the owner does nothing about it, I would have no problem with the government dealing with that problem.

I define harassing as a dog getting and staying within the personal space of someone who is fearful of dogs or having the potential to do that relatively instantaneously (i.e. a dog not on a leash).
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:08 AM
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24. That is up to the owner/companion human.
And it has nothing to do with breed, or even species. The same would be true for a pet monkey or iguana. I've known dogs of all breeds, some were cantankerous, some utterly placid, but the most one most deserving of the Dalai Lama's "Compassionate Critter of the Year" Award would be a member of the group called "Pit Bull" which so many seem to want to murder. Will not fight (except to protect others) , worked as a therapy dog that included people who tried to kick her. If the whole world were made of "Pit Bulls" like her, we would see a lot less suffering.
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ThsMchneKilsFascists Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:33 AM
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15. not talking about excluding deer at all
If you exclude traffic accidents, where obviously a 800 lb plus animal is more lethal than a 150 lb minus animal ; how do the deer vs dog fatality stats compare then?
And you also realize that very few people keep deer as pets, don't you?
So how exactly does one ban deer?

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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:43 AM
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16. Great Nick! But fear of dogs, by the numbers,
is far less rational than fear of a sudden attack by a deer while driving. I don't advise banning, or exterminating either animal. Just a sense of perspective on both so-called "dangers."
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:55 AM
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21. The difference is accidental vs. purposely
A dog attack is not accidental; something has to go out of its way to kill you. Deer-related deaths are, presumambly, accidental (unless there's some weird CIA-Dr. Moreau shit going on that I don't know about). Therefore, one fear is more rational than the other.

Lightening strikes are scary, too, yet does that mean we shouldn't hunt down Osama? Statistically speaking, we should just give Osama a passport and a block of C-4 and let him do worst, and crack down on lightening strikes, but there's something in the human psyche that says that accidents are more acceptable than deliberate actions.

Personally, I think we should ban all pit bulls not bred and distributed by liscensed distributors. It would be as much to the dog's benefit as anyone else's. Most pounds look like a canine Auschwitz and are made up of 75% pits or pit-mixes.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:46 AM
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18. my neighbor doesn't leave lit candles in my yard.
cancer kills WAAAAAAAAAAY more than dogs. SO WHAT?
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SensibleAmerican Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:13 AM
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11. Hey, I almost hit a deer last night
This story is serious, and I want to thank you for posting it.

Rural driving is much more dangerous than city or freeway driving because of the random livestock that roam the roads and most importantly, the longer response time for emergencies.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:46 AM
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17. how do you suggest protecting people from dog attacks?
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:02 AM
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22. Start with educating people about other more dangerous threats.
Like putting your tongue in a live lamp socket or voting Republican. Dogs will be the the least of your worries, if you check out the odds. Far, far, far, less dangerous than stairways. Banning all/some dogs will do absolutely nothing to protect you.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:53 AM
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26. Rush is at it again it sounds like
Rush also says there are far more trees in America today than when Columbus arrived and more deer as well. Maybe that is why everyone must stay afraid, because of all those killer deer. :crazy:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:08 AM
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27. I had a fucking deer hit me last winter.
It just ran out of some farmer's field into the front corner of my jeep at night and then it turned around and ran back. I was really lucky. I was fine and the only damage to my car was a cracked headlight (which I don't care about because my jeep's ancient).
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:59 AM
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29. Yeah, but
dogs are everywhere.

You have to go out in the wood s to find deer, generally.
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