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Magical Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:19 AM
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You're all targets, Israel tells Lebanese in South
Everyone remaining in southern Lebanon will be regarded as a terrorist, Israel's justice minister said yesterday as the military prepared to employ "huge firepower" from the air in its campaign to crush Hizbollah.

Haim Ramon issued the warning as the Israeli government decided against expanding ground operations after the death of nine soldiers in fighting on Wednesday.

"What we should do in southern Lebanon is employ huge firepower before a ground force goes in," Mr Ramon said at a security cabinet meeting headed by Ehud Olmert, the prime minister. "Everyone in southern Lebanon is a terrorist and is connected to Hizbollah. Our great advantage vis-a-vis Hizbollah is our firepower, not in face-to-face combat."

Mr Olmert promised that the army would "continue toward the established goals".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/28/wmid28.xml

What in the FUCK is this SHIT ? EXTERMINATION ??????
It's INHUMAN.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:23 AM
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1. At least they aren't trying to pretend they won't attack civilians now.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:28 AM
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2. Many casualties in Lebanon strike
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 02:07 AM by Scurrilous
<snip>

"Dozens of people have been killed or injured in an Israeli air strike on a building near the southern Lebanese town of Qana, reports say.
Initial reports suggest that displaced families had been sheltering in the basement of the three-storey building, which was destroyed.

Local emergency workers said there were many children among the casualties.

The strike comes as Hezbollah militants fight Israeli forces following a new incursion into southern Lebanon.

The UN says some 600 people - about a third of them children - have been killed by Israeli action in Lebanon since their operations began nearly three weeks ago."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5228224.stm



Israel strike kills 35 civilians in south Lebanon

<snip>

"An Israeli air strike on a south Lebanon village on Sunday killed at least 35 civilians, including 21 children, witnesses and rescue workers said.

They said several houses in the village of Qana collapsed and that a three-storey building where about 100 civilians were sheltering was partially destroyed."

http://go.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=1368861§ion=news&src=rss/uk/topNews



Haaretz News Flash:

10:01 IDF says it warned residents of Qana to leave (Reuters)

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:31 AM
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3. Dear God.
Is the Israeli military so cowardly that it would kill massive numbers of civilians rather than risking a few soldiers in face to face combat?

Somebody please tell me this is not for real.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:34 AM
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4. As if Hezbollah would ever engage in a head up fight.
They would be crushed if they came out of the woodwork to fight face to face. That's why they do what they do.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:36 AM
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5. Yeah, I don't see Israelis fighting 'face to face'. In fact, they
pulled their ground troops out of southern Lebanon so they can bomb the place into smithereens from the air.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:57 AM
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12. Wounded troops describe Bint Jbail battle as 'hell on earth'
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"Wounded soldiers who took part in heavy combat Wednesday on the outskirts of the Hezbollah stronghold of Bint Jbail recounted their experiences from their hospital beds at Haifa's Rambam Medical Center, which received 22 of the wounded casualties of the battle."

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"The wounded soldiers described the battle as a bitter one which took place in a built-up setting, one where enemy forces had organized a well-planned ambush. Soldiers faced gunfire from any and all directions.

"They shot at us from 180 degrees," said one of the soldiers. Most of the dead and seriously wounded are those from the initial wave of ground troops which tried to enter one of the homes in Bint Jbail. The soldiers who suffered light wounds are primarily those who arrived on the scene to retrieve the bodies of the dead and wounded soldiers lying in the battlefield."

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"The soldiers also recounted feats of heroism displayed by their friends. "They carried soldiers on stretchers while simultaneously shooting at terrorists," Shalom said.

"It was hell on earth," Corporal Lior Sharabi said. "People risked their lives not only for the wounded but also for the dead bodies."

Sharabi added that Hezbollah fighters demonstrated impressive combat capabilities. "They are strong fighters, not like us, but better than Hamas," he said."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743473.html
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:00 AM
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13. Well, they took out 9 Israeli soldiers and injured a bunch more
in a pitched ground battle. Hence the reason for Israel pulling out. Sounds like face to face, or something approximating it anyway. It seems to be the Israelis rather than Hizbollah that are afraid of that kind of fighting.:shrug:
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:46 AM
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8. Same strategy as used by U.S. in Fallujah.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:47 AM
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9. As long as a 'tit for tat' rocket battle continues
it stays very real. The justifications are each fired rocket, each dropped bomb.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:05 AM
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14. It's not really tit for tat
when one side's rockets mostly land in uninhabited areas and occasionally put out a window, while the other side's rockets and bombs level whole apartment complexes killing dozens of people.

I want both sides to stop it, but I don't see a meaningful comparison between the two. It's like hitting someone with machine gun fire who is throwing pebbles at you and mostly missing.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:28 PM
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25. So...maybe stop throwing "pebbles" would be the smart thing to do...
And you know that both side aren't going to 'stop it' as long as Israel exists so wake up and smell the coffee. If they're playing the genocide game in the ME it looks like Lebanon is going to be first out.

BTW, what is that Jewish post holocaust saying ..."never again". At least not for Jews it seems.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:43 AM
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6. It's called long-standing Israeli policy. Glad you noticed, now do
something.
Jewish Voice for Peace. http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/
International Solidarity Movement (go see for yourself!) http://palsolidarity.org/
U.S. Campaign to End the Occupation http://www.endtheoccupation.org/
Gush Shalom http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en
Middle East Children's Alliance http://www.mecaforpeace.org/

Or many more. Just do something. Just don't sit there and post!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:45 AM
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7. Israel is now in 'intifada' mode. "Genocide, I'll show you genocide..."
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 01:45 AM by EVDebs
Or something like that. Something like the Nixonian 'madman' theory in Vietnam, only going right up to the edge.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:49 AM
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10. I wonder if these bombs, provided by the United States, were signed
by Israeli children?

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 04:36 AM
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15. Or by Israeli soldiers.


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:20 AM
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19. They were probably signed by US Christians too.
They're working together if anyone hasn't noticed.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:53 AM
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11. Ah, Good. Israel's Turning To The Soviet Model
that was used in Afghanistan:

Although initially, Soviet operations were directed primarily against the mujahidin, once the Soviets realized the popular support for the resistance movement, they deliberately turned to a terrorist strategy of "migratory genocide" and "rubblization."....Fighter-bombers and medium bombers hit targets deep inside guerrilla territory, seeking to destroy the village infrastructure supporting the mujahidin.

"Free-fire" zones were created along the main roads and extended back to the hills behind them, and the villages within these zones were "virtually obliterated." In addition, field crops, food storage facilities, and the irrigation systems so vital to Afghan agriculture were bombed in the attempt to drive the people off the land. Soviet aircraft also deliberately attacked civilian caravans coming into or leaving the country, thus causing many casualties among women and children. Small bombs shaped as toys or other attractive objects were used with the intent to maim children, and these caused many livestock casualties as well.

....Since the war began, probably more than 200,000 Afghans have been killed and more than one-third of the population has been forced to flee to Pakistan, Iran, or the Afghan cities....There has been enormous slaughter of livestock....and the famine in places has been compared to that in Ethiopia.


Of course, the strategy didn't work then, and it's not gonna work now.


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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 04:47 AM
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16. cowards. 9 Israelis killed so they retreat from ground ...
hey, dying is what happens in warfare. The karma of your genocidal bombs will more than make up for the lives you "save" by "safely" bombing from the air. This will come back to bite Israelis in the butt.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:28 AM
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20. It's safer to be a soldier in this kind of war
than a child. And that's an abomination.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:59 AM
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23. good point that makes me sick to my stomach (nt)
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 05:33 AM
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17. I don't want my tax dollars propping up Israel any more.
Nor do I want my party's politicians reflexively praising Israel when that nation slaughters innocent civilians.

Yes, I know; it's too much to ask. Maybe, then, voting for more of this is too much to ask of me.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:18 AM
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18. See what Bush's "war on terra" started....
THE EXCUSE TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT! this shit is going to fucking stop.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:31 AM
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21. And then they bombed Qana
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 07:32 AM by malaise
Butchers all.
47 dead including 37 childresn so far.
add
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:37 AM
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22. I hope Americans will finally wake up about this matter
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 07:37 AM by Douglas Carpenter
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:47 AM
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24. I am waking up
and it is a terribly rude awakening.
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