Can War Criminals Still Claim A "Right To Exist"?

[DistressedAmerican]

They have stripped many of that same right. By my book, that means that they lose all international legitimacy.

Israel chose the course of war criminal.

I no longer want to hear about their "right to exist". War criminals forfeit that right.

[Mandate My Ass]

1. The israeli ambassador to the UN just said Hezbollah must cease to

exist. He first said they had to disarm but then went on to say they must be obliterated. How can anybody say something like that? Especially since Hezbollah is Israel's creation.

[cali]

2. Frankly I think this whole 'right to exist'

stuff, is nonsense. Nations either exist or they don't. By your logic, the U.S. has no right to exist, China has no right to exist, Russia has no right to exist, the Sudan has no right to exist, etc., etc.

[DistressedAmerican]

3. Yep.

War criminals lose international legitimacy. ALL war criminals.

[cali]

7. In the international arena

there are more war criminals than not.

[DistressedAmerican]

9. Yep Again.

All have lost international legitimacy.

[Retired AF Dem]

4. Full of shit

The Govt would be the war crinials not the population of Israel and they have the right to exist. I guess after WW11 we should of killed off the entire populations of Germany and Japan for their war criminal govts. I'm getting real sick of hatred here on DU. Think it is time to go.

[DistressedAmerican]

8. Is the Government of Israel not elected by the people of Israel?

I am not saying they do not have a right to live. But, as a political entity it would appear that they have embraced war crimes. political existence is very different.

[malaise]

5. If you're Bush, Rice, Cheney, Rummy, Blair or

Olmert YES. The only serious question for our planet is whether the the citizens of the planet will allow them to escape punishment?

[leveymg]

6. Everyone has a right to exist. Israel has lost its right to make war

inside Lebanon and Gaza.

If they had simply gone into Lebanon and Gaza on rescue operations and attacked strictly military targets, nobody would be disputing their right to exist right now.

A classic case of over-reaction and a poor strategic plan to justify a larger war. Israel and BushCo are going to regret this.

[Solly Mack]

10. America's a war crime nation

So I guess there goes America's right to exist...

America chose her course as well.

Now I'll hear how "the people of America aren't to blame" and "America has existed longer" and "What Bush did isn't our fault" or other assorted variations of the "don't blame all of america for Bush"

But none of that changes the fact that America IS a war crime nation and by your standards, that means America forfeits the right to exist.

the blade cuts both ways

[DistressedAmerican]

11. As I have said before. Yep.

We have lost our international legitimacy.

Why? Do you disagree?

You state that like it is a self evident fact that we have a right to exist.

[Solly Mack]

12. America's lost a lot - but not her right to exist

But out of curiosity, who governs the now former country of America once you strip her of her right to exist?

Where do the people of America go? Who occupies America now? Does America become another Iraq?

Is that what you want? Or do you think some benevolent benefactor with the interests of the people in mind will come into America and win over our hearts and minds with their kindness?

You trust any government - any country - to come into America and make it better?

Because I don't trust any country - any government - to do that.

[DistressedAmerican]

13. International Legitimacy Is The Right to Exist As A Political Entity.

We've lost ours. The rest of your question if kind of pointless don't you think. There is no one that can remove the US as a political entity so, the legitimacy question is kind of moot.

Based on what do you claim we still have a right to exist? We have menaced the world and now we have lanuched what will turn out to be a very large conflagration in violation of international law. Why do you believe we have a right to exist exactly? You have asserted it twice. Please explain.

[Solly Mack]

14. Ah, so since no one can take America's right to exist away

it's kinda safe to declare that other countries should lose their right to exist from the safe haven of America? Is that it? American exceptionalism at it's finest.

America has the right to exist simply because the people of America have the right to exist and not be held accountable for the actions of their goverment. Americans can point to illegal elections and that still doesn't change the fact that Bush is recognized by Congress, the SCOTUS, and the world as America's legitimate President. Sad, ugly fact but still a fact.

Now, turn about is fair play...how do you plan on stripping Israel of it's existance? - since that is what you're advocating...your claim is a country forfeits the right to exist when they engage in war crimes...except America, of course.