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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:24 PM
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Is anyone listening to this military shill on MSNBC
(General Downing) saying that the Israelis have only missed once and this in Qana? Good fugging grief -how do they lie like this. What happened in Tyre, at the UN posts, etc. He said less than 1% of targets went wrong.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:25 PM
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1. And now he promotes the Iraq war as ok.
Dumb fuck.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:25 PM
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2. So does that mean the attack on the UN wasn't a mistake?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:28 PM
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3. Indeed
He must have forgotten the talking points.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:28 PM
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4. and i guess the "if the UN lost the top 10 floors
nobody would notice" logic has been completely shot to shit now, right?
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:30 PM
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5. not just general shilling
they all are, makes me sick, turned off the news .Can't take much more my stomach is so upset and blood pressure up! Such a helpless feeling, you just want to scream and rant!
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:32 PM
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7. The spout that shit becuase...
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 12:32 PM by misternormal
... The *bots expect to hear all of that, and will lick it all up.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:32 PM
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6. They are just a bunch of war criminals
Exploiting a Religious War for the benefit of the rich.

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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:32 PM
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8. I missed him, but you won't get the truth out of "General" Downing, ever!
The Poodle is on now acting "upset." "Too late Tony" to the rescue.

Oh, no, now he is spouting the BushSpeak.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:43 PM
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9. Priceless
he looks as whipped as Condi - fugging war criminal. Bet you didn't know that all this confusion is delaying his holiday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/26/nmps26.xml
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:48 PM
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10. Why Would Anyone Listen To The Author Of The "Bay Of Goats" Plan?
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 12:49 PM by loindelrio
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq-downing.htm

Following the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks, and the quick success of Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan, the INC plan was modified. The new plan was developed with the help of a retired four-star Army general, Wayne Downing , and former CIA officer Duane (Dewey) Clarridge, who have served as unpaid consultants to the INC. Clarridge ran the U.S.-backed contras who fought the leftist Sandanista regime in Nicaragua during the Reagan administration. Downing was appointed by President Bush in October 2001 to be the deputy national-security adviser for combatting terrorism. General Downing resigned in July 2002, reportedly frustrated by the administration's lack of action against Iraq.

The new version included the INC establishing a firebase inside Iraq, from which it would announce the creation of a provisional Iraqi government (which the Bush Administration would recognize). The US would begin an intense bombing campaign, as it did in Afghanistan, and airlift thousands of Special Forces troops into southern Iraq. The United States Air Force would systematically bomb key Iraqi command-and-control facilities. Early versions of the plan did not call for a direct military assault on Baghdad, but proposed quick-strike attacks on military units in the north and primarily in the south. If all went as planned, dissent would break out in the Iraqi military, and Saddam Hussein would have to decide whether to send his forces south to attack the Americans or to keep his forces in Baghdad to guard against an invasion from the north. If Saddam's forces counter-attacked, they would be exposed to American air strikes and destroyed. The INC believed that any show of force would immediately trigger a revolt against Saddam within Iraq. According to Clarridge, the "idea from the beginning was to encourage defections of Iraqi units. You need to create a nucleus, something for people to defect to. If they could take Basra (Iraq's second-largest city and major port), it would all be over."

In December 2001 Chalabi's revised plan, modified by a Pentagon planning group authorized by Paul Wolfowitz, was presented to the Joint Chiefs of Staff for evaluation. Anthony Zinni, the retired general who had served as head of Central Command responsible for US forces in the Middle East, had dismissed the plan as the "Bay of Goats."
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