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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:51 PM
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Just got a call from the DCCC
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 02:56 PM by blogslut
The D - TRIPLE C as the dude said to me.

I told him I want candidates that stop straddling fences. I want candidates that will stand up and demand an end to this war. I want the Democratic party to LISTEN to the American people. The man told me I was being spun by the repubs--sheesh!

ADD: I asked he what they were doing to support Babara Radnofsky - the woman running against Hutchinson here in Texas. Mind you, this was after he told me they DCCC concentrates on the house and senate races....dude never heard of her---SHeesh!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:57 PM
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1. kick
for a busy day
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:57 PM
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2. They just don't get it
My Guy John Laesch called for the end of the war. He was one of their 50 vets running as soon as he said what he did no funds. He got Hastert in huge trouble in his district. Hastert has millions from the RNC and if John had the money say good bye to the Speaker of the House

www.john06.com
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:01 PM
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3. Oh, they get it; they just don't want to do anything about it but
the same old tap dance right in rhythm with the RNC chorus line.

VOTE THEM OUT!!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:03 PM
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4. I know!
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 03:04 PM by blogslut
This dude was saying they were concentrating on the races they could win. I asked him why they were'nt supporting all the races like Dean. He kept saying, we want to win. I told him they weren't listening to the will of the people. He told me I was being spun by the Repubs. I told him I WILL GiVE MONEY DIRECTLY TO THE CANDIDATES I support. He kept telling me I was being spun -by the repubs. Told me I was misinformed. I told him, I am very informed. I told him I was a member of DU and that's when he said...I gotta go...


SHEEESH!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:09 PM
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6. LOL
They are dismissing the progressive community. I had a conversation with some Dem leaders yesterday and told them this is a HUGE mistake. Who are the people volunteering to work campaigns? Who are manning the phone banks, helping with canvassing? Not the moderates or the right wingers! Sheesh these people need to wake up.

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:13 PM
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9. The point being
they're not just ignoring progressives, they're ingonore the majority of the populace. The majority wants us out of Iraq. Don't these people read the polls? Don't these people care about the will of the people?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:19 PM
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13. I think a majority of Dems ARE progressives
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:21 PM
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14. no argument here
I think the majority of Americans are tired of all of them. I mean ALL of them.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:14 PM
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10. One problem with the DCCC's picking & choosing "winnables"...
...is that it allows the republicans to concentrate their funding as well, and elections turn into isolated spending battles in which the republicans have a natural advantage.

If the DCCC truly made an effort in every district, I think they'd find that the RNCC's edge would dull as it is forced to dilute its funding as well. Make them defend even their "safe" territory, instead of just concentrating on a swingable front. Dean is right.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:18 PM
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12. I agree
These kids haven't a clue how the Internet works. They keep looking for those big donations instead of hundreds of thousands of small ones they could get if they stopped being corporate whores.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:27 PM
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15. Ain't that the truth?
They need to read and memorize CRASHING THE GATE.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:50 PM
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20. Disagree on that one
Hastert is in huge trouble DCCC can not see that. They have invested in Duckworth I support her but they have to look at what happening in each district. Millions has been pured into Duckworth. The polls in Hastert ditrict show John within the area to win. Think about it keeping Hastert in his own district not being able to fund raise for other. A Hastert lost would be huge. I been to Hastert district hard core Replugs are running from him. Like I said DCCC has got to wake up here we can win seats they think are safe for the replugs
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:06 PM
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5. I know
I told him that the majority of American citizens want us out of Iraq...he wouldn't hear of it. He said; We are not leaving Iraq---and that I was being spun---by the republicans...gad!
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eviltwin2525 Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:10 PM
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7. DCCC: Dickhead Clueless Clone Collaborators
Why does America need a SECOND Republican Party?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:12 PM
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8. i've yelled at them about butting in primaries and picking candidates
for us.

back who WE choose -- not you.

we see how well they are listening.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:16 PM
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11. I tried
I told the dude that if they would extract their candidates from corporate pockets and go for individuals, they would make better money...he said: "As a matter of fact we are. We're making better than we have because of individual donations and that's why the DCCC can afford to hire guys like me to call folks like you"....sheesh!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:30 PM
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17. nothing worse than an idiot that can't tell a decent lie.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:33 PM
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28. Irony is SUCH a wonderful thing (snicker)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:29 PM
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16. I asked the guy
What they were doing to insure fair elections. That the makers of Diebold machines were GOP supporters. The guy said: "If that's the case, we're out of luck" I asked him what they were doing to support RFK Jr in his suit for fair elections, they guy was like "Who? What?" sheesh!

I'm being spun by the DCCC!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:35 PM
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18. Chances are the guy is a volunteer
Although, if I were volunteering for that job, I would certainly be able to answer your questions intelligently.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:40 PM
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19. Well, he tried
He was slick. He seemed informed until I called him on things. I mean the man had no idea that Hutchinson was running for re-election...

Look, I wasn't rude to the man. I just stood my ground. Msybe I gave him something to think about.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 04:15 PM
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21. You know, when I get calls like this
I actually donate whenever I can afford to. But then I actually think having a Democratic Congress would be a good thing. Also, I know the difference between the DSCC and the DCCC.

But then I'm not silly enough to think that the poor bobo doing the telemarketing calls is actually in charge of strategy. Nor do I expect him to know everything about every race around the country.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 04:29 PM
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22. I know the difference
and it ain't much.

I also know they supply these "poor bobos" with scripts and talking points that come directly from the DCCC strategy.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 04:33 PM
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23. And that's why you asked the DCCC about a Senate race (snicker)
"scripts and talking points that come directly from the DCCC strategy."
Yeah, how dare they actually discuss winning issues real Democrats stand for instead of half-assed leftist fantasy from the Green party.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 04:38 PM
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24. ahhh yes
I'm a green now. How precious. Gonna call me princess next?

Getting big money out of politics isn't a leftist fantasy. Ending this lie of a war isn't a leftist fantasy. I know who you are Mr. Benchley. Go kiss "Short ride Joe" for me, will ya?

The man said they were working to get Senators AND Congressman elected.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 04:43 PM
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25. Yeah, you're a real fucking ornament to the party....
"The man said they were working to get Senators AND Congressman elected."
Surrrrrrrrrrrre he did......and since YOU didn't have any clue.....

"The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) raked in $8.8 million in June, almost double the $4.8 million that its GOP counterpart brought in for the same month.  The DSCC has raised a whopping $73 million for the 2006 campaign cycle and has nearly $38 million in the bank, almost twice as much as what the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) has in its coffers <...>
In June, the NRSC raised only $4.8 million despite claiming that it had raised at least $7 million more at a single event with the President that month.
But the House counterpart, the DCCC, did almost as well. "

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2006/07/how_the_dems_ca.html

It's amazing to see how the level of left wing venom grows, the better actual Democrats do.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 04:46 PM
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26. Well, congratulations
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 04:47 PM by blogslut
Have fun with your money. Hope you don't get your knees too scraped up servicing the big donators. Enjoy your time straddling the fence. Watch your balls...oh wait, you guys don't have any.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:32 PM
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27. Hey, start a thread showing how little you know anytime
Wow, I wonder why nobody listens to a specimen like you?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:43 PM
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29. Specimen
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 07:44 PM by blogslut
How adorable!

You mean because I find little difference between the DSCC and the DCCC? You mean because both groups pimp for the same damned money bags? You mean because both groups want to betray REAL Democrats by ignoring them?

Or do you mean because their telemarketer didn't even know that my Democratic congressional candidate in Texas is Roger Waun? You know why he didn't know? You why the guy wasn't aware that Kay Hutchinson is up for re-election? Because they don't care about Texas. They don't care that there are Dems there, fighting for their very lives. They don't care that Mac Thornberry is a bullshit rich kid who bought his congressionAl seat. They don't care that Chris Bell is polling in the number 2 spot behind governor goodhair. They don't care that the majority of Americans are sick of this war, sick of corrupt and impotent polticians and sick of their representatives pandering to big money like the DSCC/DCCC/DLC does.

Play your little games, Mr. Benchley. Bet on the sure things. Don't even think about reform. It would hurt your brain.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:49 PM
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30. Fits perfectly. You don't know diddly squat about the Democratic party
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 07:50 PM by MrBenchley
other than that you don't support it...and the rest of us are supposed to feel abashed we're not listening to you on any subject worth hearing.

Fuck that noise, as we used to say in Brooklyn.

"You mean because both groups want to betray REAL Democrats"
In other words, they know what worthless, useless specimens the far left are. Which your thread has demonstrated. In spades.

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:57 PM
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31. I support the PEOPLE that make up the Democratic Party
I don't support people like you who refuse to accept that it's broken. People who refuse to listen to their constituents yet have no trouble taking money from corporations. I want reform. You want to keep the status quid pro quo.

Call me all the names you want darling. Your badgering has no effect on me and this thread is on the front page.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:01 PM
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32. How? By demonstrating your ignorance publicly?
"I don't support people like you"
You bet you don't.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:05 PM
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33. Here's how it works
I give money to the DCCC in 2004. Suddenly, I'm on everyone's mailing list. I get mail from Pelosi, from Boxer, from Kerry, McDermott. Now, how do you think that happens? It happens because the DSCC and the DCCC share the same mailing lists. Now, you tell me how they're not working for the same ultimate interests.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:09 AM
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34. Funny how it's only the far left that starts these threads
bitching and moaning about how horrible it is to support the Democratic party.

So in addition to not having a clue, you're no fucking help.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:15 AM
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35. Well, let's put it this way. I expect a little reciprocity for my vote.
When I vote for a Democratic Party candidate, I expect them to support policies and vote for legislation that is consistent with the party platform and my interest. Otherwise, they will hear from me. If I wanted to vote for a freakin' Republican I would do so. So as long as Rs in donkey costumes are tolerated by the party leadership, then you will hear from me and I will

VOTE THEM OUT.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:20 AM
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36. LOL! Be sure and wonder aloud
why nobody sane in the Democratic party takes seriously the opinions of the "hate Democrats" far left.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:16 AM
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39. Funny how Mr. Benchley
...resorts to personal insults because he's got nothing else to offer. Have a great morning. :)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:59 PM
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42. Feel free to flaunt your ignorance any old time at all.....
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:24 AM
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37. You are very generous.
I'm not sure what the difference is between DSCC and DCCC?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:30 AM
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38. Look it up, then.
Or read further down in the thread. It's not like it's a fucking state secret or anything...one is for getting Democrats elected to the Senate, the other is for getting Democrats elected to the House.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:21 AM
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40. DSCC = Senate DCCC = Congress
and they both only give financial support to candidates that they want/think are winners. You know, as opposed to Democratic candidates that could win if they had the financial support of machines like the DSCC/DCCC.

http://www.dscc.org
http://www.dccc.org
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:24 AM
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41. Contribute to the PDA
I've quit wasting my time with the DCCC and the DSCC. I'm sure some here disagree with me but the Democratic party will just become a kinder, gentler republican party without some guts and determination.
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