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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 05:50 PM
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sibel edmonds: grossman got 911 suspects released from jail
i interviewed sibel edmonds recently about what she does, and doesnt, know about 911. she explained that most of what she knows has already been described in her letter to Tom Kean

She added some more details about the 911 skyscraper blueprints:
An Iranian guy was arrested on some narcotics charges and the FBI was concerned that he was involved in something more nefarious - and they had his prison phone wiretapped. As it happens, there are two types of FBI 'translations' - summary and verbatim. The FBI guys asked for a particular phone call to be translated and the (unknown) translator wrote a summary: "parties discussed real estate developments." As Sibel notes, given "the suspect under surveillance and the issues involved" the agent wanted a verbatim transcript of the conversation, and Sibel was given the task.

Sibel realised immediately that the agent's suspicions were correct and that the subject matter was explosive - blueprints, photos & details of the construction composites of skyscrapers that were at least a '100 stories tall.'
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Further, according to the wiretap, these blueprints et al were to be hand-delivered to a remote, remote border location in the Middle-East (not Turkey) where a 'real estate development' usually means setting up a tent for the night.
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To make matters worse, Sibel also translated other wiretaps from the same jailed Iranian guy - recorded a few days after 911 - in which he and an associate were congratulating each other about the attacks.


There are a few other things that Sibel knows are related to 911 that aren't covered in the Kean letter.
Firstly, Osama Bin Laden 'controls' a bank in Cyprus. I'm not exactly sure how this directly relates to 911 - perhaps this is where a lot of the non-hijacker participants of 911 received their financial payoffs? The four main banking / money-laundering areas that Sibel knows about are Cyprus, Dubai, Malta and the Cayman Islands. Incidentally, since Sibel started making a noise about The Livingston Group, they have removed the Cayman Islands from their Representative Client List on their website.
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Second, the FBI has direct, documented evidence of exactly who was involved in buying visas for more than one of the 911 hijackers - presumably including who asked for them, who they asked, how they were facilitated, and how much was paid. Again, this information came from counter-intelligence (and of course, we already know some of the groups that CI was monitoring), but the case was never moved to Counter-Terrorism - even after 911.

Thirdly, two weeks after 911, Sibel overheard two 'targets' of a CI monitoring program having a conversation. Apparently, three associates of these targets were arrested in New Jersey immediately after 911 - two Turkish guys and an Uzbeki. The targets were desperate to get their associates out of jail, and out of the country, so they called Marc Grossman who duly facilitated their release.


Why was Grossman springing 911 suspects from jail? on whose behalf?

the rest is here http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2006/07/sibel-911.html
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 05:58 PM
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1. Edmonds has info on Hastert hope she give it all up bye bye Hastert
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:02 PM
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3. hastert
Monkeyman - did you see the stuff i posted for you about Hastert and the DoJ investigation the other day?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 05:58 PM
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2. thanks for this info!! great job and interview!! k&r..n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:15 PM
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4. I posted this in the Sibel forumn lukery
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 06:15 PM by seemslikeadream
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:28 PM
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7. thnx seemslikeadream n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:19 PM
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5. K&R
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:26 PM
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6. kick
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:29 PM
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8. There is so much information in this article

Whistlerblower Coming in Cold From The FBI

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the article mentions a woman named Melek Can Dickerson, a Turkish woman married to a major in the U.S. Air Force. The woman told Edmonds that she couldn't believe America was monitoring people who were their chief "persons of interest" because Dickerson and her husband had done favors for them...shopping...

"Ms. Edmonds has told the Judiciary Committee that soon after, Ms. Dickerson tried to establish social ties with her, suggesting they meet in Alexandria and introduce their husbands to each other.

When Sibel invited the visitors in for tea, she said, Major Dickerson began asking Matthew Edmonds if the couple had many friends from Turkey here in the U.S. Mr. Edmonds said he didn't speak Turkish, so they didn't associate with many Turkish people. The Air Force officer then began talking up a Turkish organization in Washington that he described, according to the Edmondses, as "a great place to make connections and it could be very profitable."

Sibel was sickened. This organization was the very one she and Jan Dickerson were monitoring in a 9/11 investigation. Since Sibel had adhered to the rule that an F.B.I. employee does not discuss bureau matters with one's mate, her husband innocently continued the conversation. Ms. Dickerson and her husband offered to introduce the Edmondses to people connected to the Turkish embassy in Washington who belonged to this organization. ..."My husband keeps thinking he's talking about promoting business deals," Ms. Edmonds later said of the encounter. "He has no idea the man is talking about criminal activities with some semi-legitimate front."

These are classic "pitch activities" to get somebody to spy for you, according to a Judiciary Committee staffer who investigated Ms. Edmonds' claims. ...The targets of that F.B.I. investigation left the country abruptly in 2002. Later, Ms. Edmonds discovered that Ms. Dickerson had managed to get hold of translations meant for Ms. Edmonds, forge her signature, and render the communications useless."

more
http://www.gailsheehy.com/9_11/9_11_art1_21.html




Folks back up and pay attention to what Sibel D. Edmonds made public

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I keep reminding folks to back up and pay attention to what FBI Translator Sibel D. Edmonds made public and that Bush, Cheney and Ashcroft slapped a gag order on her immediately. She found—and pay close attention this time if you did not last time or this is the first time you have heard this—she found "drug trafficking, money laundering, foreign names and AMERICAN NAMES involved in the financing of 9-11."

Sibel Edmonds is not fluent in Arabic. She is fluent in Farsi (Iran), Turkish (her mother) and Azeri (her Azerbaijani father). What she found was not in Arabic notwithstanding the Bush and Ashcroft insistence that her "Arabic translations" regarding Osama bin Laden, attack on the U.S., and jet airplanes, which for the record are not even germane to the translations that Sibel Edmonds did find. What Sibel Edmonds found was not from "counter-terrorism" but rather from ongoing FBI investigations into drug trafficking and money laundering by certain foreign and American persons.

Then from another source we learned that there was a transaction due to close on 9-11 or 9-12-2001 involving payment of $120 billion. That payment it seems was problematic because the payment would have been prima facie evidence of a criminal fraud in progress relating to Brady Bonds and bogus gold instruments of which there are reportedly now over $10 trillion of such instruments floating around the world markets.

The documents for that closing were reportedly housed in WTC I, and, gosh, that company took a jet airplane right in the face. Consider that, and consider that no one is that lucky.

My sources inform that Cantor Fitzgerald was the underwriter / bond trustee on the $120 billion payment that was due. It may have been another firm, but my sources say Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC 1, 101-105 floors. Also, INTER AMERICAN INVESTMENT CORPORATION is the vehicle that has been used to float the bogus gold contracts and that entity is both a Reagan administration creation and still closely tied to George H.W. Bush. It was also noted that Global Crossing Holdings Ltd., that well known telecom fraud that fleeced global investors of billions, was on the 83rd Floor of WTC 1, but that and the fact that former CEO of Global Crossing Lodwrick Cook being on the board of the GHWB Presidential Library is a separate story.

more
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:t38qjp5DdPYJ:www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/121704Schwarz/121704schwarz.html+My+sources+inform+that+Cantor+Fitzgerald+was+the+underwriter+/+bond+trustee+on+the+%24120+billion+payment+that+was+due&hl=en
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:t38qjp5DdPYJ:www.onl...


Take a visit via the Net to the world of associations.

the reality is that it and other affiliated associations are the US government.

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It is in and through such associations that US political, economic and military policy is made and the American public subsequently "educated" to support policies that are not, and could not, be debated in public because of their illegality, audacity, complexity and, arguably, necessity.

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America Gives Birth to New EuroAsia

Now, before you yell, "Conspiracy," you might want to think Necessity and Stability, particularly in light of the opening to Central Asia, the Caucasus and the new Europe provided by 9-11. Pull up Net maps of Central Asia, the Caucasus, and Europe. Once you've done that, consider what political, economic and military activities (defined as US national interests) the United States has underway in those regions. It is no less than the development of a US-dominated New EuroAsia that includes the "Stans," Ukraine, Chechnya, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Belarus, Romania, Bulgaria, Czech, Croatia, and Poland. Crazy? Hardly, it is a brilliant gamble. There are many compelling reasons to create a New EuroAsia with the US with a controlling interest.

...

ACPC was founded in 1999 and is chaired by former National Security Advisor Zibigniew Brezinski, former Secretary of State Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and former Congressman Stephen J. Solarz. ACPC, according to its website, is composed of more than one hundred distinguished Americans representing both major political parties and nearly every walk of life.

And who are those 100 Americans? Well, to name a few, there's Geraldine Ferraro, former Democratic candidate for vice president; Frank Gaffney, CEO of the Center for Security Policy whose board members include Doug Feith, Gordon Sullivan, CEO of the Army Association of the USA, and Bob Livingston of the Livingston Group; Elliot Abrams and Mike Leeden. And who would have guessed that Richard Gere and PJ O'Rourke would be members of the ACPC?

And the story gets routine and boring as it moves on. The honorary chair of the American Georgia Business Council (AGBC) is James Baker III. Its members include ExxonMobil, Northrop Grumman and Ernst &Young. President of the AGBC is S. Enders Wimbush, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and former Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) and Booz Allen Hamilton employee. A trustee of note on the Hudson Institute is Al Haig. The same connections, whether through individuals or organizations, can be found for Ukraine and Belarus, as well as Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

Six Degrees of Zibigniew Brezinski

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/021805Stan...
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:01 PM
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9. great info
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:10 PM
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10. K & R
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:10 PM
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11. Kicked, recommended and bookmarked!
:kick:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:39 PM
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12. Hey robertpaulsen let's put some old DU background stuff about Sibel here
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 11:04 PM
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13. another
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:49 AM
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14. Superb and I recommend the OPosters blog. K&R More on Grossman please
Who is this guy? What's his major malfunction?

Superb work, really excellent. We owe NZ and Australia a great big thank you so much for the
support we get from you folks.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:29 PM
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15. K & R n/t
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:36 PM
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16. Kick.
Nice post. I need to look into this further.
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