Rapture Ready board ponders: What happens to unborn babies in rapture?

[Bluebear]

Q: Hey Y'all, this is my first time on here. As you can tell I'm from Texas. I was just wondring if the Rapture happens when you are pregnant, what do you think will happen to your little baby? Sorry if you think this is stupid. But I'd be happy to hear your replies. Thanks for your time!

GBU all

Ariel A.K.A. Floot Dude (Waco, Texas)
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A: By what I understand and believe - babies, whether born or unborn will be raptured. If the pregnant mother isn't saved (she won't be raptured) then she'll suddenly find her womb quite empty since the baby inside has been raptured.
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http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=268331

[tnlefty]

1. Hell, do they know what happens to the frozen, potential

"Snowflake babies"?

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. damn beat me to it

:rofl:

[muriel_volestrangler]

44. Compulsory implantation in all raptured mothers of suitable age

Yes, they're going to have to go through pregnancy without the pleasure of the sex beforehand. That'll put a few off.

[htuttle]

67. I think Heaven will be full of swarms of free-flying stem cells

...sort of like huge clouds of gnats.

[Aristus]

2. According to "Left Behind", they squeal, well, rapturously, and

fly up to Heaven.

...excuse me...




:puke:

[jaxx]

9. Yeah that's some crazy stuff.

[northzax]

3. so how old will they be raptured?

at what age does sin come into play? and if they aren't baptized, they aren't getting raptured, that whole original sin thing.

[a la izquierda]

4. who thinks about this stuff?

how morbid ARE these people??:crazy:

[bling bling]

20. Funny you should ask that.

Actually, I asked pretty much the same question the other day right here in GD. It was out of curiousity about how the end-timers viewed the fate of children and fetus's of non-believers in the rapture. I thought about it because there was a post by another DU'er who's co-worker quit their job last week in anticipation of the rapture (according to the co-worker, it's supposed to happen this week sometime)!

[a la izquierda]

25. yeah, but i bet you think about it with astonishment. n/t

[bling bling]

28. I think about it with genuine curiosity.

The end timers are an interesting, and to some degree an amusing group of people in my eyes. They arouse curiosity in me because they're just so darn, uh, serious about the whole rapture thing. It's so hard to believe that a small part of me still wonders, "are these people putting us on?" But I know deep down that they believe it 100%. It blows my mind.

[madeline_con]

34. I worked at a Chinese restaurant with a lady who was sure

the end was upon us. We were going to have a famine and all first, though. She bought a 100lb. bag of rice from the owner.

We waited in anticipation,and when "the day" came and went, she had some excuse about the calculation of the date. She convinced the owner to buy the rice back. :eyes:

[Nickster]

42. Thats great news. If the rapture is this week, that means I'll be able to

get that bigger house I've always dreamed of THIS week. Thanks for the great news!

[CatholicEdHead]

59. They quit their job?

Well, I guess they are in for a suprise next week.

[bling bling]

60. I know. I almost feel sorry for him. Here's the link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1747947&mesg_id=1747947

[lectrobyte]

71. That's kind of sad. If someone lost their job to drinking or drug abuse,

I'd want them to be helped. Likewise for your acquaintance. I hope things work out for him, and I hope he isn't damaging anyone else (does he have children or other dependents?), and gets some therapy.

[Aviation Pro]

5. Sick sonsofbitches these rapture nutjobs.

eom

[SammyWinstonJack]

64. Sick, self-serving and waaay too self-righteous. nt

[NC_Nurse]

6. AAAAAuuuuuugh!

What a bunch of BULLSH*T! How would they know what "Gawd" has decided about ANY person - born or unborn...stuff like this just makes me crazy.
How can these Jack-offs claim to know what the Divine is about. Anyone who is smug enough to claim they know what will happen to someone after death is a complete jerk, period. I don't care what religion you are, any answer to a question like this should be prefaced with, "in our tradition, we believe that..."

[tuvor]

7. I thought baptism was a prerequisite.

[Strawman]

8. Will sperm be raptured?

Or do us guys have the green light from God to let it fly, so to speak, once the rapture begins?

[Berry Cool]

10. Oh my...deity.

I have to thank you for giving me the Hilarious Mental Picture of the Week. And it's only Sunday.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Look out for the Rapture, folks. It's coming. And we mean that literally.

[Aristus]

12. Yeah. They say: "The Rapture is coming."

I say: "Coming is rapture." :evilgrin:

[Hekate]

35. >snrk< >roflmao< You guys owe me a new keyboard, you do

:spray: :rofl:

My eyes!

Oh, thank you for the best laugh in a long time.

You know, I still can't seem to get to the Rapture Ready site without being booted off Netscape. Either my computer is too old, or -- could it be? -- my heart is just not pure.

Hekate

[lectrobyte]

70. And I'm just geeky enough to start singing the Monty Python "Every Sperm

is Sacred" song.

[CoffeeCat]

13. What about pets?

Dear Rapture experts:

I consider myself a stellar candidate for the rapture.

I attend church weekly, I judge others daily and I'm a lying, hypocritical bigot who owns many floppy hats. Naturally, I'll be chosen to make the magical trip into the clouds. SO. EXCITED.

However, what about Weinberger and Sensenbrenner...my two pomeranians? They can't be left down here to rot with the gays and the baby killers.

It wouldn't be a rapture without them!

Please advise.

Marge from DeKalb, Illinois

[Bluebear]

26. OH NO YOU DIDN'T!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[datasuspect]

45. pets don't have souls

so they go to los angeles.

[LostinVA]

55. There's no Biblical foundation or true doctrine that says this

My parish priest as a child told us that all living, thinking creatures have souls, and that our pets would be in Heaven with us.

[cgrindley]

69. Your parish priest was wrong and here's why

Let's concede, for the sake of argument that animals have souls, which, of course, is absurd.

Prior to the Fall, mankind and animalkind lived together in the Garden of Eden. The Garden of Eden was an earthly paradise, but certainly not heaven by any stretch of the imagination. Mankind and animalkind, similarly, were created mortal--after the Fall, in the Book of Genesis, the J author has the God character sigh in relief, thankful that mankind had not eaten from the Tree of Life, an act that would have made mankind immortal (not to belabor the point, but this presupposes that man and everything else was created mortal). With the advent of Original Sin, mankind "fell", but through Christ's sacrifice mankind is able to be forgiven for all of mankind's sins, collective and otherwise, and, after death, receive eternal life in Heaven.

Animals, therefore, are both mortal and innately pre-lapserian. Animals never fell. They do not "know" good or evil. They are unconscious in the sense that conscious beings can recognize the difference between right and wrong and are free to choose between the two. Animals do not, therefore, require or receive salvation through Christ since a) they don't need it, and b) they are unable to recognize their need for it (which, they don't have anyway).

Therefore, animals are mortal creatures whose lives and souls will be extinguished upon the deaths of their bodies. They never fell from an Edenic state, so, if you think your cat is particularly happy, that's because it is. Your cat is currently living in the Garden of Eden. This is the largest taste of paradise your cat will ever get. When your cat dies, it's just dead.

Obviously, with an infinite deity anything is possible--well, not everything, only things that represent the maximum possible good. So it could be that God will ressurrect the animals to live in Heaven with the saved people, but it seems unlikely. The maximum possible good would hardly be served--from my non infinite perspective--by rewarding those who were incapable of making a choice.

[ForrestGump]

14. They fly around over Cleveland

I think, anyway.

[CAG]

15. "then she'll suddenly find her womb quite empty"

"If the pregnant mother isn't saved (she won't be raptured) then she'll suddenly find her womb quite empty since the baby inside has been raptured."

A couple of questions for this expert:
1) Will the unsaved mother need an epidural?
2) How will she explain this to her insurance (will it be covered?, who is the insurance supposed to send the check too?)?
3) If the mother is saved, and gets raptured, does the baby stay in the womb, or does this divine cesarian section simultaneously occur?
4) Does the baby need to bring a car seat for the ride?

[Ms. Clio]

16. "Does the baby need to bring a car seat for the ride?"

ROFLMBFAO!!

[LibraLiz1973]

17. I have some rapture questions

When the rapture does come, I'm wondering what will happen with the following things...

1. Will my credit card debt also be raptured?

2. Will I ever know how LOST ends? Is there TIVO where we go or is there just an empty screen?

3. If I'm eating a Big Mac at the time of rapture, will it be LEFT BEHIND or do I get to take it with?

4. If a woman had triplets and one kid was realllllllllllll bad would all of the kids not be raptured, or would god break up the set?

5. Can I take my iPod with, or will I get a new one when I get there? If my old iPod is LEFT BEHIND, should I leave a note on it explaining where I went?

6. WHen the rapture happens will there be all kinds of crazy car accidents when drivers just dissapear from behind the wheel?

7. Will being raptured affect my cell phone minutes? I just got a really good plan with unlimited night calling so I dont want to lose that.


Sorry if the questions are silly but golly gee, I want to be prepared!

[Bluebear]

27. I can help you with the car crashes . . . .

This rendition is from "His amazing love dot org"

[Hekate]

37. That's not the behavior of a loving god, is it?

Why would anyone get turned on by imagining multiple World Trade Center collapses? Makes you wonder about them.

Hekate

[madeline_con]

36. "... or would god break up the set?"

Too much..... :rofl:

[LibraLiz1973]

18. she came up with another crazy question...

Q. I was just wondering that the other day. If say a 3 yr. old gets raptured, will he/she be older when they get to heaven? I would really like to hear your thoughts on that question.

Ariel A.K.A. Floot Dude (Waco, Texas)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

A. I believe everyone will have the body of a 33 year old. I believe that is either the year Jesus went into His ministry or the year he died. Anyway, my Pastor in Texas taught this. I sure would like to think I would have a body younger than my 54 year old body. I believe children and babies will look like they would have if they had grown to that age. Of course I am not claiming any insight on this. This is just what I have been taught.

Betty Lou
Citizen

[jonnyblitz]

19. quite the interesting answer from Citizen, Betty Lou!

:rofl:

[LibraLiz1973]

21. Heres another scary question

Ray of Sun
Citizen Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Toledo, Oh

Q. How do you think you will feel when
Raptured? Just wondering, I think I may feel ashamed of all my wrongs. I
know I'll be raptured and for that the Lord has forgiven me. I guess it's
a scary and wonderful thought all wrapped in one.

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A.Last night, as I was rocking my baby to sleep, I thought "this would be the perfect time". I would love to be raptured while holding my sweet baby in my arms. Oh, to see the smile and joy that would be on her face!

It will be an incredible moment.
__________________
Michelle - getting ready for a wedding feast

[CAG]

24. If I was a baby being raptured, I don't think you'd see "smile and joy"

from me. You'd see a baby screaming and crying a zombie-awakening scream in baby talk saying "What the ____????!!!!" and "Where's my (*#^@* binkie????!!!!"

[KitSileya]

53. "I believe everyone will have the body of a 33 year old.

I believe that is either the year Jesus went into His ministry or the year he died."

What?! These so-called Bible Christians don't even know how old Jesus was when he, according to tradition, started his ministry and when he died?

Ignorant numbnuts!

[LibraLiz1973]

22. This is also quite the question

http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=267485

Obviously the time we live in and the events around us are leading up to our disappearance soon. Whether that's tomorrow or in ten years (I hope not), that's still "soon."

That said, and I don't know about you guys, virtually all my friends are unsaved and, roughly, three quarters of my extended family (aunts, cousins, etc.) aren't either (to the best of my knowledge).

I'm thinking of putting together a "left behind" kit for them, something that, off the top of my head, tells them what just happened (the Rapture), and what resources I have on hand they can gather up and read to "find out what happens next."

The issue, of course, is making them aware of such a "kit" and getting them a key (or a big rock to hurl through my window) to get into my place once I'm gone. I have one friend whom I've talked at great length about all that's going on (he's still an unbeliever), but I know him well enough to know that there's a 99% chance he'll come to his senses once I'm gone and I am thinking of leaving him in charge of contacting a list of people who are unsaved and telling them what happened and leaving a ton of prophetic, easy-to-understand info for him.

Obviously, I don't want to turn him off or push him away from the Gospel because that would be horrible, but a big part of me knows that I'd rather look a fool by giving him a letter which would lead to such a "kit" than risk his (or anyone in the "kit") going to hell forever because they were not informed.

What do people think about this idea? Anyone else have similar ideas come to them lately? Of course the above would have to be done with tact and, most importantly, prayer and the Spirit's help, but it's always good to seek counsel with your spiritual family, which I consider you guys a part of.

So, anyone want to chime in on this? Thanks in advance

[Hekate]

38. This one's actually a nice, kind, thoughtful person. Nutty maybe, but nice

I think it's sweet of her to be thinking of the welfare of those Left Behind.

Hekate

[ComerPerro]

49. I think its disgusting as hell of her to presume

that she is worthy of being saved while everyone she knows will be left behind.

Its arrogance and self-satisfaction.

[Renew Deal]

23. Now that's sick.

:crazy:

[JesterCS]

29. I believe...

if you read the Left Behind series of books ( very good fictional read btw )

Any child under 12 years of age was auto-raptured

[zcflint09]

30. The Left Behind series was an awesome fictional read

I agree with you on that--however the fact is that the idea of a "Rapture" or "Crapture" as I'd like to call it is so outlandish that it does make great fictional reading.

[LostinVA]

52. It's not even Biblical -- and is/was considered heretical

[zcflint09]

61. No doubt

The video game is on the same ilk--with that being said I have a mild obssession with post apolyoptic/end of the world novels--so that's probably what led me to enjoy the books.

[mwb970]

66. Yeah, if you like 6th-grade level writing. (n/t)

[canetoad]

31. Don't know about unborn babies

But I was very taken by the Rapture Ready BBQ apron and beer stein in their online shop.

[theHandpuppet]

32. According to some "men of God", they DO go to hell

This is some screwed up shit, people: http://www.christiandoctrine.net/doctrine/articles/article_00126_do_babies_automatically_go_to_heaven_web.htm

[Hekate]

39. Ah, Calvinism rears its ugly head. Remember Cotton Mather?

Sadists creating a sadistic god.

Hekate

[theHandpuppet]

43. Some of the passages at that link are indicative of a real sickness

QUOTE:

Conceived in Sin

Children, from conception, are sinners. And scripture says that an unsaved sinner cannot enter heaven. In God’s word this is immutable and unchangeable. Our emotions do not enter the equation. Read scripture and see the true state of babies – God does not see the age of a person who dies. He only sees their state. Children are sinners from conception.

and

"Can you see that a tiny child cannot have this faith (trust)? As we ‘must’ (an imperative) be born again and believe, we have no option but to disregard the idea of children automatically going to heaven. To embrace it, is to reject a direct command of God to be born again. As we have already said, it is heresy, whether or not we hold such a view with the best of intentions. As believers we have no right to hold views that prefer to have best intentions toward men rather than toward God. Soothing the distress of a parent does not take precedence over truth, as declared by God in His word.

"All of us who pastor would dearly love to spare a parent from the hard facts presented here, but we cannot.... "

That's just a sampling.

[northzax]

48. that's standard doctrine

I know everone likes to think tht God loves the little babies and what not, but without being baptized, you cannot go to heaven. furthermore, for these jackasses, not accepting Jesus Christ as your personal saviour means you are not going to heaven, doesn't matter what else you do. Mother Theresa, for instance, isn't in Heaven, since she never accepted Jesus Christ as her personal saviour (since, duh, her religion doesn't ask for it) It's not a sickness, it's the way it is. you cannot achieve paradise through works, or life, only through that one instance of faith.

A side note, of course, it's why God has to raise Jesus from the Dead and ascend his corporal body to heaven, otherwise, of course, since he would not have accepted himself as his personal saviour, he would not be in heaven. ironic, ain't it? God had to find a loophole for his own kid. wait a minute, maybe God is a Republican...

by the way, Catholics aren't any better than these people, go visit a catholic church in say, Wisconsin, (which is the one I know of) right outside the churchyard there are graves for unbaptized babies, the still-born and suicides, none of which can be buried in consecrated ground. To say God Loves Babies is to simply pretend that your faith is not as brutal is it says it is.

[LostinVA]

54. Thank the gods I wasn't taught this as a kid

It would have given me nightmares.

I'll give the Catholic Church that, the death penalty, and Evoloution... and the idea of Good Works.

[madeline_con]

33. "... she'll suddenly find her womb quite empty ..."

I'm confused. Won't she just be carrying a dead baby?

Ain't the soul the onliest part gits raptured up? :shrug:

[Freedom_Aflaim]

40. It doesnt really matter

If there is no such thing as rapture, then it doesnt matter because it will never happen.

If on the other hand, the rapture is real and starts occuring, then somebody ALOT more powerful than any of us will have it figured out and I seriously doubt that such a being will be hampered by things that we think is important.

Either way, it doesnt matter, and I don't understand why Athiest nor Christians would be worrying about it.

[Hubert Flottz]

41. All bets are off if she's been fornicating around!

Do not pass go, do not collect $200.00!

[ellie]

46. I have to say

that these rapture ready posts are highly entertaining! It's too bad the whole rapture thing is a big fantasy. The world would be such a wonderful place without them.

edited to fix spelling

[semillama]

47. My favorite rapture ideas

are the ones that insist you get BODILY transported up to heaven.

So of course, I imagine that since most Americans spend their time indoors or in cars, that might be a painful experience, what with your body suddenly shooting up through the roof. In the case of the raptured unborn, I imagine it would resemble "Alien."

The Church of the Subgenius maintains that there is a translation error, and it's not the Rapture, but the Rupture, in which all the good christians hover in the air before exploding.

[ComerPerro]

50. I was thinking that too

[Ganja Ninja]

51. Everything you always wanted to know about the rapture but

were afraid to ask. Too bad they can't give us a correct date and time.
That site is so full of bullshit artists.

[Sequoia]

56. Oh, you're too much!

[Ganja Ninja]

57. If the Bible doesn't have the answers just check the ...

Left Behind series.

"I don't think what you asked about is in the Bible per se, but in the Left Behind series ... yata, yata, yata."
:crazy: :rofl:

[Gruenemann]

58. "Floot Dude"?

Weird name.

[BuyingThyme]

62. Something about potato guns.

[QuettaKid]

63. k. nt

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[mikeytherat]

65. Does the baby from the "unsaved" pass through the stomach on the way out,

or does it have to leave via the birth canal in order to be raptured?

Both instances will make for great street theatre, but the second one would probably draw a bigger crowd.

:hide:

mikey_the_rat

[mwb970]

68. I can't believe we're talking about this.

The whole Rapture thing is so insane it doesn't stand up to a moment's inspection, as this thread proves. (It's like the flag desecration "problem" - what if I delete a flag icon from my desktop? etc.)

It seems clear that the hyper-Christian end-timers live in a fantasy world. Their wacko views are not really worthy of intelligent discussion. They should be marginalized as they always have been up until recently, when they seem to have taken over the US government.

What's next? A serious discussion about the people who think Elvis is still alive?