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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:21 AM
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Former Bush Aide Mocks Bush:"If this is an opportunity, what's Iraq?"
U.S. risks backlash in Mideast
Deadly Israeli assault strikes at core of U.S. foreign policy in region
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"This moment of conflict in the Middle East is painful and tragic," Bush said in his radio address Saturday. "Yet it is also a moment of opportunity for broader change in the region. Transforming countries that have suffered decades of tyranny and violence is difficult, and it will take time to achieve. But the consequences will be profound for our country and the world."

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Haass, the former Bush aide who leads the Council on Foreign Relations, laughed at the president's public optimism. "An opportunity?" Haass said with an incredulous tone. "Lord, spare me. I don't laugh a lot. That's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. If this is an opportunity, what's Iraq? A once-in-a-lifetime chance?"

more at:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14110834/
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:26 AM
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1. How long until this guy's "Found Dead of Apparent Suicide"? n/t
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:37 AM
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2. or declared a 'terra-ist'
and thrown in jail forever?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:42 AM
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3. bush is a complete and utter imbecile. Why would Hass bother
to try and make logic out of it? There is no logic. There is only a half ass game of texas hold'em diplomacy - what ever that is.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:20 AM
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4. flashback
During the Viet Nam war, we heard alot about the domnino theory.

The domino theory stated if one country turns to communism, the neighboring countries will so the same and communism will spread one country at a time.

for what it's worth - the bush doctrine is the domino theory of our time. The bush version states if one country turns to democracy, the neighboring countries will so the same and democracy will spread one country at a time.

The flaw in this is that you can't impose democracy on a country from the outside. Democracy is of the people, by the people and for the people - which means the people have to bring about democracy for themselves.

When democracy is imposed, more often than not you end up with a dictatorship, police state or otherwise oppressive government hiding behind a facade of freedom.

thoughts?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:54 AM
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8. The Bush doctrine isn't a doctrine, it's a marketing strategy
with an imposing name. If you asked any of those @ssholes what "doctrine" meant, they have to get their minder to get a page to find a research type to scrounge a dictionary.

So maybe the Bush "doctrine" is the Duck Duck Goose Impulse of our times, with nice name tags.


:rofl:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:05 AM
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10. .
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:06 PM
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16. LOL!
:hi:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:19 PM
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20. this is one of my first buttons
it was written all over the guy from day one.

:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:44 PM
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21. No kidding! Do you sell them at cafe press or where?
I know a bunch of people that would like one!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:02 PM
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23. it's in my sig! nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:06 PM
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25. Thanks! Can't see the tree for the forrest!
(slaps forehead)
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:40 AM
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12. Bush hypocrisy even
if he believes the swill he is ladling out so generously is worse than the domino theory and other extemporaneous rationalizations. We did intend to spread democracy. We had it to some extent and knew what it was. When Bush speaks democracy the word is utterly vacated. He means a combination of tamed, empty-headed and division embroiled weak governments with heads of state kowtowing before the mighty America Proto-Democracy- which is no more. Even the word cynical fails to convey the utter devastation of what the term has come to mean in the mouth of the plutocratic Usurper.

Rome had barrack Room Emperors because the arbiters of power was the Roman military. In America it is the corporate community choosing from among its own ranks, cherished plutocrats who must first serve their interests. Bush thus is a Corporate Boardroom Emperor and the system is no better at procuring quality than any such special ruling interest of the past. Democracy has no place except as something to strive against, much as they fear and dislike independently voting stockholders.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:11 PM
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18. So true. They seem to feel nothing but comtempt for us when
we register on their awareness at all.

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 03:43 AM
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29. extra pepperoni
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:52 PM
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22. 2nd thought: It's interesting the way that BushCo takes our old
tracks / ways of thinking and USES them to slime their way to their objectives.

Sorry if I derailed your question, radfringe.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:48 AM
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5. kick...
I was thinking of this very thing. If Iran drops a nuclear bomb, then this ogre would see it as some sort of "opportunity". If 100,000 people are dead in the streets, it's an opportunity to rebuild. No, a disaster is a disaster when it is a disaster. A mistake is a mistake when it is a mistake. A moron is a moron when he is a moron. And to think this guy has gotten away with this type of explanation for so long...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:22 AM
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6. Busholini is mentally deficient.
He also said that the Illegal Invasion of Iraq has been worth it. Busholini really believes that he and his Junta can turn Iraq, Syria and Iran into democracies that will do business with the US.If a few million have to die &/or be maimed, if a few million people's lives are miserable that's the price for his vision.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:46 AM
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7. What do people expect out of a fool who calls killing people
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 05:47 AM by Hubert Flottz
over a crock of make believe bullshit, about make believe weapons of mass destruction...a "Noble Cause"?

BTW, where are all of those weapons that the screwball, mad senator Santorum, promised us again two weeks ago had been found in Iraq? Don't you think that if Bush's MI/death squads, now operating in Iraq, had REALLY found those "WEAPONS", the neocon's propaganda pushers would be showing them on FOX and CNN 24/7?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:01 AM
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9. K&R n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:35 AM
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11. Every dead baby is an opportunity!
Fucking ass hole. I hate his guts.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:13 AM
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13. Iraq a once in a lifetime chance? That's what Bush said in 1999
Exclusive: Bush Wanted To Invade Iraq If Elected in 2000
Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:59:47 -0700

By Russ Baker
Two years before 9/11, candidate Bush was already talking privately about attacking Iraq, according to his former ghost writer

Houston: Two years before the September 11 attacks, presidential candidate George W. Bush was already talking privately about the political benefits of attacking Iraq, according to his former ghost writer, who held many conversations with then-Texas Governor Bush in preparation for a planned autobiography.

“He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999,” said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. “It was on his mind. He said to me: ‘One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.’ And he said, ‘My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.’ He said, ‘If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.”

more-

http://www.gnn.tv/articles/article.php?id=761
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:43 AM
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14. click through and rate it a 5!
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:47 AM
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15. The man, and his inner circle, are truly, truly deranged.
Holy fuck... after everything that's happened in Iraq, they consider conflict in Lebanon to be ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY?

It's our worst fears realized: they're like addicted gamblers going double-or-nothing.

We were just unlucky in Iraq, right? If we keep bombing the shit out of Middle Eastern countries and throwing them into chaos, eventually one of them will become a liberal democracy!

Somebody take the dice out of their hand, and please, please throw them out of the casino.

-MR
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:08 PM
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17. B*sh is f*cking delusional
oh G-d, November 2006 can't come fast enough. Articles of Impeachment... Articles of Impeachment... Articles of Impeachment... we've GOT to get Congress back.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:40 PM
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19. Yes. Just like every abortion includes the "opportunity" to fly graphic
billboard-size photos of the aborted fetus over Cleveland.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:05 PM
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24. We've got a president who
is barely qualified to bus tables at mcdonalds for our president. Gosh we lucked out didn't we.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:50 PM
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26. My ass is on fire! What a great opportunity to learn about fire safety! nt
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:54 PM
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27. It's gonna take a Republican. (Is he a Republican?)
Our "leaders" ain't gonna do it.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 08:33 PM
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28. Thanks but NO THANKS buster!
Go Cheney yourself.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 04:13 AM
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30. Here's Richard N. Haas, in worse times!


Personally, at least, he is free at last!
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 04:41 AM
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31. just like 9/11 was an "opportunity"--FOR HIM, as part of the "trifecta"
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 04:43 AM by ima_sinnic
--can anyone in their right mind even begin to relate to someone who talks that way? who, without a clue re human decency, remarks about the "opportunity" in tragedy and atrocity? this must be the one thing the "CEO president" learned in business school, the problem/opportunity principle, b/c a self-centered clueless gladhanding phony back-slapper like himself is always receptive to pap he can use to fleece his marks. and you know without even checking over at "the-site-that-shall-remain-nameless" that there are still suckers who do fall for it as somehow "inspired."

btw, just as a reminder, the shit-stain's "trifecta" comment: "You know, when I was running for president, in Chicago, somebody said, would you ever have deficit spending? I said, only if we were at war, or only if we had a recession, or only if we had a national emergency. Never did I dream we’d get the trifecta."

on edit: one version of his "trifecta" remark: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020416-8.html
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