IF Al Gore decides to run in 2008....

[npincus]

I will drop everything and work my little fingers to the bone (volunteer) to help his campaign.

'Nuff said.

[ourbluenation]

1. what npincus said. n/t

[npincus]

2. speculation is starting...

my addled brain can't remember which talking head said it BUT (think it was Tweety) there are rumblings that Gore is putting a staff together....

[ourbluenation]

3. Gloria Borger on Tweety's sunday show said it yesterday...

it was music to my ears

[npincus]

4. THANK you!

I taped it, but didn't get to watch it until I was half-asleep....

[janx]

6. ...said what?

That Gore is actually starting to organize for a run?

[ourbluenation]

40. yep! She said his long time aid has moved back to tn recently to

work for Gore...she seemed convinced he will be running.

[lonestarnot]

59. Mark Danner said it on CSPAN yesterday.

www.markdanner.com

[Nay]

17. Please, please, oh, please. . .I will work my fingers to the bone too.

[Subdivisions]

9. You know...

I like Al Gore and I don't even know why.

I've followed him since the beginning. I was a huge Clinton supporter, but I knew why I liked him. I won't elaborate on privacy grounds (my own), but it was because of something he said to me as he was campaigning for his second term as governor of Arkansas, which he lost by the way.

He (Clinton) was a guest at a Young Democrats dinner in Conway, Arkansas while I was a college student there in the early 80s and he made a lasting impression on me with his philosophy. I respect him deeply, despite the occasional rise-of-the-eyebrow moments witnessed during his presidency.

Maybe my tendency to like Al Gore is a result of "Love by association". If Bill Clinton likes you, I like you. Maybe because I'm an environmentalist? I dunno.

Except that he may have been a little stiff in the past and he seems to lay claim to the internet as his baby, even though I was on the internet before I even knew who Al Gore was, I don't know what it is about him that I like.

Can some of you tell me what it is about Al Gore that makes you want to vote for him as President?

OH, and btw, I did vote for him.

[femmedem]

14. Two reasons to like Gore:

He's been outspoken since day one against the war in Iraq, enough so that he wouldn't endorse his former running mate, Lieberman, in 2004.

He's the only politician, IMHO, who totally gets the urgency of the impending environmental disaster, and whom I trust to work ceaselessly to prevent it.

Welcome to DU!

[Cha]

63. I another one..

Al Gore "invented the internet"! :)

[Jackpine Radical]

20. Go see An Inconvenient Truth

and you'll know why you like Gore.

[RestoreGore]

104. Go See An Inconvenient Truth...

And then pledge to do your part to save this planet. THAT is the message in it. It isn't about Gore, and he even stated he was hesitant to make the movie in any way showing snippets about him. He decided to do so only because it was handled as he wanted it to be... noting the corrolation between times in his life when any human would lose all hope, to tie that into the fact that we must now have hope that we can turn this climate crisis around. Which is what he is telling us we must do now in order to face this catastrophe head on. His sister's death, his son's near death, and the death of our Democracy were all events where his spirit was bared and his limits were challenged. Now we face that reaping the whirlwind of our own behavior. It is then what we do at this point that decides our fate. It is much deeper than him just vogueing for the cameras. He isn't like that. He was sending a message to all of us, and it wasn't vote for him. It was, your Earth needs YOU, so what are you going to do about it?

[Jackpine Radical]

109. Jeez-I didn't mean to suggest AIT is some kinda personal puff piece--

quite the opposite. However, I challenge anyone to see the movie & not come away with an awareness of Gore's commitment to the mission he set for himself and a deeper appreciation for who he is. If that movie launches a Draft Gore movement, so much the better.

[RestoreGore]

111. The movie is not a political campaign movie

It is a moral challenge to Americans of all politics. However, I have yet to see anything on a grand scale where people actually report on the effect this movie has actually had on their lives and behavior apart from using it in a political nature. The changes must come from us, and from us demanding that representatives of all parties across the political spectrum see this urgency now. As a matter of fact, politics doesn't even seem to be the way these changes will be accomplished, which is why Al Gore is out here with us now...because it must be a grassroots effort for our planet.

To take this movie to use it for a draft movement will also only place more suspicions on Mr. Gore's motives. If Mr. Gore wishes to run for any office he is more than capable of making that decision on his own when the time and conditions are right, and I trust his judgement and refuse to get sucked into a "draft" that will take precious time away from focusing on this more urgent issue. He already turned one down, and I don't see any changes coming on that scene. Frankly, all of the draft talk only proves to me that the issue of this climate crisis may not then really be the important overriding issue regarding the talk for some, and that is disappointing.

What is now happening to our planet is something that we all need to focus on now. This goes beyond the Presidency of any country, and Al Gore sees it. I'm actually losing hope that people in this country will see it (especially if they now are made to believe it is only being done out of a political motive, which is why I vehemently am against using this movie as a springboard for a draft) and that is what concerns me as far as progress being made on it. People will most definitely come away with an impression of Al Gore after watching this film.... and it will be that the issue of the climate crisis, this "planetary emergency" is something we must now get serious about after ignoring it for thirty years, and that this issue IS his heart.

To see that reduced to simply a "campaign" film by some is in my opinion an insult to Mr. Gore and his dedication to this issue. And that was not addressed to you personally, but a general comment based on what I have seen written regarding it in many venues. I met him a couple of weeks ago at a booksigning, and I can say that he is totally devoted to this mission. I truly believe we should allow him the room he needs to work on it, and to work on it with him, and to also respect the message of this movie that is non partisan.

Thank you.

[dalaigh lllama]

21. Al Gore - the Man for All Reasons

I'm an avid Gore supporter now, for reasons that predate his wonderful documentary on global warming that I'm sure others will mention, so I'll just say what has captured my avid interest in Al Gore as my president-elect.

If you watched any of the coverage of Katrina last year, you surely got some coverage of B*sh doin' what came naturally -- nothing. But what got little coverage was what Al Gore did under the radar to save New Orleans citizens. Just google "Gore" and "Katrina" and take your pick of articles. You won't have heard about on TV, radio, or newspapers. The only place it got any coverage was here on the net.

After Katrina, I became interested in what Gore was up to, and on Martin Luther King Day this past January, he gave a speech that I watched by myself in the privacy of my own home. I was so moved and inspired by his words that I gave him a standing ovation that none but myself could hear or see. I should add I'm not normally a demonstrative person -- his speech was that inspiring.

I groan when people accuse Gore of being "stiff." I'd rather have a stiff, sober, competent, intelligent president any day of the week than the sorry excuse for a leader we got that for some reason America wanted to have a beer with. The hangover is killing us.

And the "internet" bullsh*t that went on ad nauseam? Here's a good article that explains the spin that made half of America too dizzy to vote for Gore, appropriately titled "Inventing 'Invented the Internet'"

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh120302.shtml

[rosesaylavee]

30. Beat me to it about the b*llshite

regarding him inventing the internet.

Gore is a true American hero and deserves to win the presidency. If he decides to run, I will work for him.

[Subdivisions]

48. Thank you for the reply and...

can you point me in the direction of a link to the video of the MLK Day speech he gave? I will look on my own also and post it here if I find one.

Ok, here's one:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3313623747767874725

Edit: Ok, I don't care for that one. It's edited and I would prefer the entire, unedited version.

As I said, I like the guy for some reason. I think it's for reasons such as you guys have stated that made their way into the back of my mind.

I definately will make an effort to do a little research because I believe with my whole soul that the next two national elections are going to be the most important in the history of this nation.

[NYCGirl]

50. Link to entire video is here:

http://www.acslaw.org/node/2096

[Subdivisions]

52. Thank you!

[Pierzin]

92. DVJNU - I'm gonna do that, and hope I can find the articles

you mentioned here. What a poignant piece you wrote there. Nice. I lean toward supporting Gore. Good God Mother Mary and Joseph, we need a real F***ing Leader, not a Boy Emperor!

Pray that it may come to pass! and I'm agnostic! hehe

[femmedem]

45. Check out the video clips/transcripts of his MLK day speech.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=358&topic_id=2779

They will tell you everything you need to know about his eloquence, his intelligence, his integrity and his passion.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

74. the internet was one of his babies while he was in the Senate...

1988.

http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/

He strikes me as the most honest politician out there.

[calmblueocean]

82. His farsightedness.

Read "Earth in the Balance". In 2000, Bushbots were mocking Gore for having written in 1991 that we should try to eliminate the internal combustion engine in cars within 25 years. They went absolutely crazy!

"Gore wants everyone to turn their cars into planters!" they said. Rush Limbaugh went even nutsier than usual. They mocked him as hard as they could. And yet, just a few years later, Bush was jumping on the end-the-internal-combustion-engine bandwagon, promoting hydrogen cars during his state of the union speech.

It's now well understood that we almost certainly will see the end of the internal combustion engine in our lifetimes. Thanks to expensive oil, new battery technologies, and cheap solar, we can look forward to electric cars that run without noise and without emissions. Cars that will last as long as you want keep them.

Gore saw that this future was possible, and talked about it at a time when the idea was treated like heresy. That's what a true leader does, and it's just one reason I want this guy as my president.

[liberaldemocrat7]

152. The "future" for me occurred 3 years ago when I bought this.

No gas, no oil, no transmission, No muffler, no chain but rather a belt instead. It turns on with an electric switch and it kicks mean if you give it too much throttle at first but I slowly give it throttle and then speed up after I get rolling. I like driving an electric motorcycle.

[Greybnk48]

5. If so, he's got me 100%

and every member of our family!!

[JackNewtown]

7. Gore was right when others played politics

Gore is the best candidate for the job. I hope he runs.

[survivor999]

23. Yes, but he lost against a chimp!

The dumbest, most inarticulate guy you could think of... And don't tell me that Florida was stolen. Even it it was, it was pathetic things got close to 50/50 to start with.

[rosesaylavee]

31. Florida was fixed

before the vote was counted. Jeb, Katherine Harris were both in place and were not going to let it happen.

So, it wasn't 500 votes, there was no 50/50 - more like Gore won more votes in the thousands but we will never know for sure because the Supreme Court stopped the counting.

[survivor999]

33. I meant, 50/50

nationwide... The chimp should have been crushed by Gore! He was not a serious opponent!

[dalaigh lllama]

47. Sometime, take a look

at the comparative media coverage of Gore and B*sh back in 2000. The media did everything in its power to vilify Gore, and rarely if ever discussed B*sh's shortcomings. And, unfortunately, the public was a lot more trusting of the corporate-owned media then, folks were all doing well economically, and frankly, not many people really cared about that election. I don't think most folks were that enamored of either candidate. Little did we know...

[bvar22]

78. Gore was saddled with the Democratic Party Platform....

....which was written by the Party Insiders with their Corporate ties in 2000.
Gore is OUT FROM UNDER these assholes, and can run a populist campaign.
If he wins the Party nomination, there will be a real dogfight over the Party Platform for 2008.
I, for one, look foreward to this fight.


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR

[AlGore-08.com]

87. The facts... Gore began his 2000 campaign 1 month after the impeachment

Gore began 20 points behind. At that point, and up until the fall of 2000, the conventional wisdom was that Gore was going to loose in a landslide. He was outspent by Smirk by almost 2 to 1. Smirk had a united party behind him. The Democratic party machine believed the CW that Gore was going to loose, and didn't bother to do much to change the CW.

The same media that smeared Clinton for 8 years turned their guns on Gore. They decided that Gore had to be a sleaze bag, "just like Clinton". To "prove" their theory, they misquoted Gore and called their own misquotes "lies" by Gore; they took true statements by Gore, stripped them of their context and called them lies. At the same time, they rushed to praise Smirk, especially his "character". They ignored Bush's many, many lies during his campaign, his dirty tricks, and his record of failure.

The pro-Smirk cheer leading by the press had a huge affect on the outcome of the race. One of the best examples are the Presidential debates. All of the polls taken after each debate showed that Gore won all the debates by a large margin. But all the polls taken a week or more after the debates showed Smirk won them. Why? Because after the press spent a week saying "Bush won", most people were persuaded that Bush had actually won.

What little "straight news" there was, was staggering in it's thinness and lack of detail. Most nights, the major news casts would run a single story on the election, and it would be something like this: a few seconds of footage of Gore waving to a cheering crowd, followed by a few seconds of Bush waving to a cheering crowd, while the anchor intoned in a bored manner: "Today in Florida, Vice President Gore said Governor Bush's plan would hurt social security. In Ohio, Governor Bush said that his plan would save Social Security". And then there would be an in depth piece on shark attacks, or furbies, or "Survivor".

(Just like 2002, 2004 and to a large extent, 2006, if you wanted to know what was going on in the election, you had to go online to find out. Gore had a terrific website, with tons of information; and there was the beginnings of the liberal blogosphere performing Herculean feats of citizen journalism, but there weren't enough of us on the 'Net to make a difference.)

So, again... Gore began 20 points behind. By the 2000 Dem convention, he had cut that in half, and was only 10 points behind.

Gore ended up winning more votes than any other previous Presidential candidate, except of Ronald Reagan's landslide reelection victory of 1984.

If the Extreme Court had followed the law and let all the votes be counted, and Gore had been allowed to serve - - the 2000 election would have been one of the all time "what a great campaign!" stories - - even bigger than Truman's 1948 upset.

[vssmith]

94. I like Gore as much as anyone but,

you have to admit that he did not look very good in the debates in 2000. I am not talking about what he said but his demeanor.

[SammyWinstonJack]

114. That's all you have to say after reading that very detailed post?

:eyes:

[vssmith]

128. In a word, YES

[mistertrickster]

130. You know, I agree with that . . . in the sense that he should have run

on his record and slammed Bush's.

Instead he ran on his "proposals" and let Bush slam his record.

"Eight years ago, they (Clinton-Gore) ran on a Medicare drug plan. Four years ago, they ran on a drug plan. They can't get it done. We need people who can get things done in Washington."

[Bridget Burke]

140. Gore looked fine to me.

And he sounded even better.

[mistertrickster]

127. Good analysis! The MSM were fully invested in Bush all the way.

That explains why they continue to see him as a "moderate" when the polls show Americans hate his guts.

[femrap]

76. He won the popular vote by what......? nt

[NYCGirl]

115. Half a million votes. NT

[mistertrickster]

126. You forget that Clinton was slimed by impeachment. Al G felt he

had to distance himself from President Feelgood. Rightly or wrongly, he felt he had to run from his record with Clinton.

[rubberducky]

8. Hopefully the dems would UNITE for him!!

He is someone I could truely believe in. Haven`t always agreed with him , but, I do think he is an honorable man. I would do everything in my power to get him elected!!

[insane_cratic_gal]

13. I know I would

I'd stand behind Gore.. I think the large majority of participants here would too. He's pretty well loved here and abroad

[Seabiscuit]

61. Interesting that you mention his being loved here and abroad.

Bush doesn't dare walk down any street abroad or at home. Yet Al Gore is treated like JFK/Jacquie Kennedy or a rock star when he walks freely down any street in the world. People genuinely love the man.

[unschooler]

91. The WORLD would unite for Gore. Truly, he is the man who could

best heal the despair of the past six years.

(OK. So 32% of Amurikins wouldn't get behind him, but everybody else would.)

[Ron Green]

10. Here's your 5th, for the Greatest Page. I, too, would work harder than

I've ever worked for a candidate. Here's hoping.

[Pathwalker]

11. You're not alone.

'Nuff said.

[Fire Walk With Me]

12. Work to eliminate their next plot to steal an election.

Likely in California this time, which has long been a thorn in their sides.

Preventative medicine :-)

[kwyjibo]

15. Helen Thomas seems to think he will run

She was in Austin talking about her book a few weeks ago and when asked who a good candidate would be for the Democrats, she mentioned Al Gore, said that he would be a good choice and seems to be setting himself up for a run. I have to agree, he keeps saying "I have no plans" instead of "I'm not running."

[FighttheFuture]

118. Brilliant strategem by Al... why put himself up as a target...

for the Reich wing, the loons, and especially the Corporate-media, which savaged him last time (even so far as to whine about his suit color) while Bushitler was carried on a litter by the media-whores and their corporate masters.

Gore could enter the race at ANY time... he has my vote!!!

[Mabus]

124. Helen's no dummy

She's a very astute reporter and I agree with her. I think he's running one of the most brilliant non-campaigns I've ever seen.

[we can do it]

16. Me Too -Let's Go Al!!

:bounce:

[think4yourself]

18. How about this?

"An Inconvenient Truth" wins an Academy Award. Then our man steps to the podium and says "If you liked THAT movie, wait 'til you see me as your President. I am hereby announcing my run for President of the United States."

The entire nation, in one breath says, "Holy Shit, thank you God."

[ronnykmarshall]

19. Wouldn't that be cool?

When watch the repugs heads explode when they try and bitch about Gore being "Hollywood" and are reminded of Arnie's little "Tonight Show" thing.

[Subdivisions]

54. LOL

That's funny as hell! LOL

[Subdivisions]

57. You know he'll win too...

in the Best Documentary Feature category.

But can he hold out that long. Hell, by the next Academy awards show, hysteria about whether or not he'll run will be at a fever pitch.

[cool user name]

22. What we could do to try and redeem ourselves in the eyes of the world.

Is to elect Al Gore.

I like the man and think he's perfect for the job. My only beef with him is that he couldn't support House Representatives to not ratify the election results.

I still can't forgive him for unleashing Bush on us but he can definitely make amends by running and winning (again).

[sueragingroz]

24. He his hardly stiff these days...

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/48/16982

here is the audio:

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2006/01/16/al-gore-podcast/

[cool user name]

29. I never said he was stiff.

In fact, I want him to run and win.

[sueragingroz]

150. my bad

I replied to the wrong post :)

:spank:

[cool user name]

154. No worries ...

:D

[Duppers]

25. YES, me too.

My president.

[WePurrsevere]

26. Al is the one potential candidate I've seen so far that I could ....

get behind 100%. Not just because I have grown to respect him tremendously over the last few years but because I think he probably has the best chance to win and win big enough that there would be no quibbling about it.

This is just my SWAG but I think he may be waiting to see how this November's elections pan out before making any firm decisions. Hopefully things will go in our favor enough that it will encourage him to run. B-)

(edited to run spell check... :hangover:)

[bajamary]

27. re-elect Gore in 08

Count me in on working fingers to the bone group.

Al Gore is brilliant, human and humane. Can you say that about W?

Furthermore, he's cute to boot........ :)

[Control-Z]

28. Me too! n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

32. Shit yes.

Like nobody's business. Our nation, our Planet, NEEDS that man.

[JNelson6563]

34. I'll be right there with ya!

:toast:

[Turn CO Blue]

35. I'd work constantly for Big Al. I'd donate much of my salary.

I'd volunteer and round up 100's of other volunteers for him.

My heart and mind are set on President Gore in 2008!

[Seabiscuit]

65. I'd find some way to give him half a year's income.

The part I usually invest. That could be the best investment anyone ever made.

[ThomWV]

36. I Am Recently Retired. I Will Work Full Time To Get Gore Elected

And contribute a good portion of whatever funds are available to me as well.

Al Gore, our once and future President.

[ldf]

37. Hey, AL!!

Are you reading this thread???

count me in the nubby fingers group, ok? i'm also big on walking over broken glass for you!

Go Al! :toast:

:thumbsup:

and i hope that the very first words out of his mouth, either after he wins on election night, or during his inauguration, is to APOLOGIZE TO THE WORLD for what little lord pissypants has done.

edit to add, THEN apologize to the AMERICAN PEOPLE for W's trashing of the constitution and the bill of rights.

there would be a RECORD number of calls from heads of states from around the world, congratulating him, and offering their cooperation.

i dream....

[NastyDiaper]

38. Sign me up as well.

[dalaigh lllama]

55. No, we're the ones who need to apologize

Why should Gore apologize for Little Lord Pissypants? We, the people, are the ones who allowed Little Lord Pissypants to reign. As Gore said, when asked why he didn't do more in 2000, "Unfortunately, there's no intermediate step between a Supreme Court decision and violent revolution."

[rainman99]

39. I will donate as much money as I can.

[marions ghost]

41. OH yeah

if Al ran, I would do everything I could to support him. I think he can turn this mess around, not single-handedly, but he'd have most of the country behind him.

[TwentyFive]

42. Me too!!! Gore can do a Howard Dean - Ross Perot style campaign

Fire the political advisors! When AL speaks from the heart, he will win the biggest landslide since FDR.

[NMDemDist2]

43. I'll jump on that bandwagon in a heartbeat

go AL go!

and the only thing I want out of it is a REAL president!

[blonndee]

44. I'm on board, too. This is a candidate (and a person) I can get behind,

with no reservations.

[cally]

46. I will, also

He's the one candidate I will go out of state to help.

[upi402]

49. NAFTA. LIEBERMAN, CONCEDE FLORIDA

:hi: :grouphug:

[FighttheFuture]

120. ??? Gore did not concede FL, NAFTA was Clinton...

and yes, Loserman was his biggest mistake. He allowed himself to be led by the beltway consultants who felt Loserman was the furthest distance from Clinton -- hounded for his entire Presidency by the Reich Wing, Repugs and the news media.

Everything I've seen Gore has had his time away from the DC bullshit and politics. He has done is introspection, his "walkabout", and found his passion. He is a good, smart, intelligent man who CARES, unlike the gang of psychopaths and criminals we have now in all three branches of Government. At this point,HE IS THE BEST HOPE for us all! He is a LEADER!

[upi402]

151. GORE debated Perot on Larry King supporting NAFTA -and killed -of course

and the Larry King debate was about all we got for high profile discussion of an obvious middle class destroyer. Gore supported NAFTA and promoted it.

Who else will he allow to lead him? Who will be the next corporatist who he will follow. He is not a leader if that is your claim.

Glad he says he has changed. I just think we can't risk a politician's promise. He sold out working people for corporatism. That's huge. We suffer decay of the working and middle classes and life will not be the same.
We need a proven walk and less "born again" "seen the light" talk.
I do wish Gore would have stuck it out for a statewide recount in FL.

[FighttheFuture]

155. Your misleading... NAFTA was a Clinton Admin product,

there was no "Gore Administration". The best that can be said for Gore is he was a loyal VP defending the administration and his President on something that many perceived as a good thing, that's politics. It is clear now that NAFTA was a sham. None of the people provisions have been addressed while Capital moves around like a cancer. This is why I excuse no one who voted for CAFTA, but am willing to revisit NAFTA mea Culpa's.

I don't see Gore selling anyone out. I see him being led to believe that what's good for business is good for America as so many have. That's needs to be turned around and people need to be put first. Gore is the one, I believe, who can do that with a Democratic party put on notice, as it is with Lieberman (win or loose, a message has been sent) and Progress ive's continuing to fight. Gore will be the best Liberal we can probably get into the Executive Branch in 2008. By 2012, if the Rethugs are still in power, we may be ready for a Saunders or a Kucinich!

Your last statement: I do wish Gore would have stuck it out for a statewide recount in FL.

What exactly do you think he could have done? Besides trying to get Congress to ignore the Supine Court ruling and rule in his favor (fat chance), or calling for outright armed rebellion, I really do not see what options he had left? It went on for ove a month with the media ignoring Repuglican hijinks and sabotaging him every step of the way.

Do you see something else??

[sagesnow]

51. If Gore can continue to be true to himself and not

be influenced by his DNC/Corporate sponsors, I will be behind him 100%.

[Red Right and BLUE]

53. Right there with ya. eom

[RestoreGore]

56. His movie isn't political

An Inconvenient Truth started off in theatres over two months ago and has so far brought in over 20 million dollars. Not bad for a documentary on a subject that is boring for so many. However, even though it is now the fourth biggest documentary, how does that translate into action by the choir being preached to in its message? And more importantly still, to those who need to see it?

According to an article in TIME Magazine this month, and this report, http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/28/...in1846119.shtml, Americans aren't cutting back on their use of oil. It is actually going up. Even though gas prices in many places in this country are over four dollars a gallon and consistently over three in others, Americans on the whole do not seem to be effected by it, and the oil companies are loving it. Consumption is rising, and that means the more demand there is (sparked no doubt by this war in the Middle East planned by the usual suspects) the less chance of the price going down, and the more chance that that ten year window Jim Hanson of NASA talked about closing sooner.

So what the hell is the story? Why is it at a time when such world events as are occurring should actually be making Americans more conservative in their use, are they seemingly not giving a damn? Where are all the throngs of people who have seen this movie supporting its message outside of the theatre? Where are all of those who even claim to support Al Gore in spreading this message on a wide scale? Are profits from this movie and book only due to the fact that people went to see it just to see someone they think is going to run for President, so they think they don't have to do anything else? Or do they really give a damn enough to cut out that trip to the mall or beach? Well, based on the fact that consumption is now the highest it has ever been at a time when it is most dangerous to our future, I'm beginning to wonder myself.

Make no mistake about it people of America, we are the prime instigators in pushing this world to a tipping point it may never recover from. Our selfish abandonment and wanton indifference to our environment and our future is now bringing us closer to the point of no return... for our children, because of our selfishness. So the question then begs to be asked: What is the choir being preached to in this movie doing to carry the momentum of this movie beyond an air conditioned theatre?

This is why when I see this movie simply being used as a "campaign" tool for political junkies, it angers me. I previously stated that I was concerned that people would go see this movie, shed a tear, gasp a bit, clap a bit, then leave, get in their ACed Suvs, and drive home saying how they were inspired, never to really put anymore effort into it. So perhaps we need a webpage where people can actually go to verify that this movie has indeed inspired them to "disenthrall" themselves. A place to document that it wasn't just something they saw to have something to talk about on a message board. Or use as an excuse to call for Al Gore to run in a system that doesn't give a damn about climate change. Or just to have the tickets as a momento of a time when they talked the talk because it was "popular" to do so, but didn't have the guts to really walk the walk.

If you are walking the walk literally and figuratively, then let it be known. If not, WHY NOT? An Inconvenient Truth is not a political movie, it is a call for ALL OF US to disenthrall ourselves to be a part of the solution. America already has Al Gore out here to inspire that. Such a shame that his running for office in a corrupted political system is all some are still clinging to. It only shows they know nothing about the movie he made nor its meaning, and in the end, that translates to a great loss for all of us because this message is then obviously not being listened to by the choir as a whole, and those who need to see it and hear it wont if we aren't willing to bring it to them. So what are you really doing in your life to make the difference necessary to say in years to come that you did not abandon your planet and those you love? Think about it, seriously... For there is no good in being a member of the choir, if you aren't going to sing.

We sure know Congress isn't listening:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/07/27/MNG9OK628E1.DTL&feed=rss.news

This country is addicted to oil. I think it's time for an intervention.
And we don't have until 2008.

[dalaigh lllama]

72. Here's where to go to "join the choir"

and learn to sing in tune ( I liked your analogy -- can you tell?)

http://www.climatecrisis.net/takeaction/

[RestoreGore]

101. Absolutely...

Oh, and I am a Soprano. ;-).

[Rosco T.]

58. Oh Hell Yeah!! Load up the bumpers!!!

http://www.cafepress.com/democatic

[Subdivisions]

60. Ok, I have another question...

Can he clean up the mess he's sure to inherit if he wins the election...assuming, of course, he does actually enter the presidential "fray"? ...er

Ok, so the pool of possible candidates isn't inspiring, so maybe fray is a little bit too strong of a word.

[RestoreGore]

62. AND WILL HE HAVE TO SELL HIS SOUL?

If so, I say, DON'T RUN.

[NYCGirl]

64. Nope.

It's an older article, but I'm sure he means it 100%!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/29/gore-retreat.htm

Al Gore told top Democratic fund-raisers Saturday that the party's 2000 campaign had too many consultants and that if he runs for president again he will speak from the heart and "let it rip."

[RestoreGore]

66. He said that in 2001

So where was everyone in DEMANDING him in 2004 if he is so loved? And I'm
not talking about HIM in my comment, I'm talking about the DIEBOLD bought and sold, military/corporate/industrial/AIPAC/lobbyist/secret society status quo that will STILL be in place no matter how he runs a campaign. Nothing has changed on that score in the beltway, and if it has, show me that article.

[NYCGirl]

67. The Party asked him not to run in 2004 — they would not support him. NT

[RestoreGore]

69. I know that

I've supported him for 18 years, even after "the party" kicked him to the curb and the people let them get away with it. That didn't mean WE COULDN'T OVERRIDE THEM if those who want him now really wanted him then. Didn't we have the power of the GRASSROOTS in 2004? Now all of a sudden you say it couldn't be done because "the party" wouldn't let us do it because they wouldn't support him? So what? Is this or is this not America? What was more important? Pleasing "the party", or seeking justice and doing what was right? So now if "the party" finds him satisfactory it is OK to support him?

[NYCGirl]

70. There's a big difference between the power of the grassroots from 2003

to now.

[RestoreGore]

71. Sorry, don't buy it n/t

[NYCGirl]

73. Buy it or not, but a lot has changed. Remember that guy that Gore endorsed

in 04...what was his name? Dean something or other? He really started something.

[RestoreGore]

97. Then why didn't we win?

Why did Dean drop out? Why didn't he stay and fight? That was what I admired about Kucinich. At least he stayed in it and wouldn't be pressured to drop out by the very forces the grassroots were supposed to be fighting, namely the corporate media. Now you tell me the grassroots are going to be behind Gore? Where? We can't even defeat DIEBOLD! And there was no sudden surge for Gore until this movie came out, and actually, it looks like people then only will support him getting any nomination in this decrepid system because "the party" now finds him to their liking because he is "popular." And when I state "the party" I am talking about the ivory tower status quo that really picks the candidates, not us. If the American people are still under any illusion that they actually have that power especially after 2000, well then, they didn't learn much from that coup, did they?

Do you even discuss why Mr. Gore claims this political system to be TOXIC? Don't you think he knows that for a fact? Why he claimed himself that he is not a good politician?... Because you have to be a spineless sob to be a politican in this government at the highest levels, and Mr. Gore is better than that. I can't then for the life of me understand why people who claim to "support" him would want him to take that chance of going back to the very toxic beltway that IGNORED his warnings and work on climate change and this crisis, when he can stay out here free to do this and to devote all of his time to this crucial issue HIS WAY.

Is it simply the glamour of a campaign or being able to say you are going to "win" (whatever that means anymore) or being able to prognosticate that excites so many? Because if he should run and have DIEBOLD steal it from him again (and make NO mistake that the Republicans who have now been handed total power on a silver platter wouldn't pull ALL the stops out this time) his legacy is gone, and precious time would have been wasted on a nasty "political" campaign rather than devoting serious time to as he stated, changing the hearts and minds of the American people to see just how urgent it is for all of us to work together to save this planet...and that window then closes even more. Does that urgency truly sink in to those who are only playing politics with this movie and this crisis?

But please, do tell me exactly what Dean started as we sit here with Bush and his Neocons and their benefactors now controlling EVERYTHING with our Constitution in tatters and now positioning themselves for their "Armageddon." Tell me why 2004 seems to now be the "giveaway" year that has now brought us to the brink of the abyss because we were too busy "playing politics" to see what this would do to our planet and our future.

[NYCGirl]

112. He can "devote all his time to this crucial issue" — but until the power

at the top is changed, it'll do squat. And who better at the top than Al Gore? He realizes that's the BEST WAY to make a difference.

And I "support" Gore even without the cutesy quotation marks you added. He's much stronger than you give him credit for being. Shielding him from the big bad political boogeymen is doing no one any good.

"Playing politics with this movie" is only something I've heard from the right wing.

[RestoreGore]

131. That's BS

They are the ones playing politics with this movie in order to turn people off to it. Robert Novak just had an article out asking him to run, so don't try that labeling crap with me. And your "until power is changed at the top" response isn't doing anyone any good unless you change how that power is maintained. Bush has been there for SIX YEARS for all the outrage, so when did you plan on doing that? You think you can change the military/industrial/corporate media complex and the minds of brainwashed Americans in one year? But please, don't address my questions. After all, calling people you don't agree with rightwingers to avoid it is so much easier, right? Remember, it was Al Gore himself who called the political process toxic. I'm simply agreeing with him, because he's correct.

[NYCGirl]

139. But still he's not ruled out running. Because he knows there are things

more important than bullshit politicking.

Well, I guess if Robert Novak has asked him to run, he'd better not, because Novak counts for so much. And BTW, I didn't call you a right winger, I just stated I'd heard that "politicizing the movie" stuff from the right wingers.

Bush will be there for two years more, BTW — or are you advocating revolution?

[RestoreGore]

142. I'm advocating IMPEACHMENT

Or is that too politically risky for Democrats in Congress who want to play the game? And hey, I don't even rule out running for President myself someday. Free country, right? Matter of fact, I don't rule out a lot of things, but that doesn't mean I'm going to do them. Even Mr. Gore knows that just leaving the door to speculation open is upping the profits on his movie, although I do wonder if it is getting through. So all I'm saying is rather than waste time on idle speculation, I would rather spend my time actually helping him with getting out this message about the climate crisis because it is more important than BS politicking. However, if people don't even respond to this, I think that is then a pretty good indication of business as usual in 2008... and of course, November is coming.

[NYCGirl]

143. Well, it won't happen unless we get a majority in 06.

Work on that.

[RestoreGore]

146. Same to you

[NYCGirl]

147. As a member of DFA, I am. NT

[RestoreGore]

148. Lovely/NT

[FighttheFuture]

121. You are "playing politics" as much as anyone, the difference...

is your politics are the usual strategies idiocy that has marginalized Liberals and sent Democrats to the sidelines. Supporting Gore is the politics or recognizing a leader, who knows the score, has been through his walkabout, and come out with even more passion for what he believes. Supporting Gore is supporting more than the man, it is supporting a movement of heart, brains and vision based on reality, on wisdom! Contrast that with what is happening today. We will not find our way trying to play "safe" middle of the road BS you suggest. Only by taking an opposite tact do we stand a chance to pull back from the brink.

It's really simply, Action create reaction; unless you try to dampen that reaction as you are doing, as so many do, then you have already lost.

[RestoreGore]

132. It's supporting this mission...

For the good of our planet. That isn't politics, that is morality. Politics and morality don't go hand in hand. If they did, we wouldn't be where we are now.

[FighttheFuture]

136. He will have much more impact, win or loose, on this "mission"...

if he runs. Hotter and hotter summers, stronger and stronger winds, tornadoes, hurricanes all lead to one thing.. Global Climate change is happening, and man is one of the contributing variables; the main variable.

If Gore runs, and wins, he can much, much more for this cause. If he doesn't win, he will still be able to spread the messages he feels are important with much more visibility than even now.

It's a win-win!!!

[RestoreGore]

145. So if he doesn't run...

he won't have an impact? Is that what you're saying? That this message isn't credible and can't be successful unless he runs for office again? Sorry, but I think he can have and will have an impact either way and already is having that impact. And considering the shape of our political system now, I think he can actually accomplish more out here by going around the political BS. But then, above it all, it is ultimately his and ONLY his decision to make. So far though, I think he's doing just fine.

[FighttheFuture]

149. Try reading what I wrote again, take off the fool filter first!!

I'll even rephrase the first sentence to help you, even though the whole message reiterated the point:

He will have much more impact on this "mission" if he runs, win or loose.

Does that help?

I'll repost the last two sentences, bolded, to also help you:


If Gore runs, and wins, he can much, much more for this cause. If he doesn't win, he will still be able to spread the messages he feels are important with much more visibility than even now.

It's a win-win!!!

Next time, try not putting words in my mouth and instead, read what I wrote.

[RestoreGore]

158. I did read it

No need to name call. I'm no fool, far from it, and my comment stands regardless of what you meant.

[FighttheFuture]

159. You setup a strawman, and I called you on it. That's all.

[FighttheFuture]

122. Short answer, election was stolen.

Still, there are too many idiots that still support these psychopaths. I can understand if a person considers themselves "conservative", whatever they think that means; it's still the position of self-interest which can lead to extreme selfishness and callousness.

However, those that call themselves Republican today, something's wrong with them. They are deficient--as humans, in intellect, morals or.and ethics, or posses some unfortunate personality disorder -- narcissistic or psychopathic- birds of a feather, after all. To be a Republican today, and exercise that position, you are just fucked.

[RestoreGore]

134. Yes, it was...

And what did we do to get it back?

[FighttheFuture]

141. If by "we" you mean "Dems", they haven't done enough. Sure...

there has been Conyers and his report, and the DNC has done some investigating, but no one in the establishment really wants to point out the Elephant in the room--it was stolen with corrupted machines, local politicians and a complicit media aka a "conspiracy". That has been up to the blog-o-sphere and grass roots to pull out and much has been done so far, but it is not well disseminated to the sheeple. Many of good hearts and minds still refuse to believe it.

Gore Vidal pointed our very well recently that "we do not have two parties, we have one party and it has two right wings, the Republicans and the Democrats." So, it's time for "we the people" to start waking up, and they are. Pain will do that. Now the point is, will they understand why they are hurting? A Gore running, with someone like an Edwards or/and a unified populist Democratic Party (i.e. Dean and the DNC), can explain much to them.

It's like you are married to someone for a long time, and you think you know their behaviors, then WHAM!!! Out of the blue they beat you bloody, rape your (their) children and expect you to shut up. For awhile, aided and abetted by shock and fear (e.g. 9/11, funny how well that worked out for Bu$hitCo and the Repugs), they get away with it. You know that to really stand up to these abusers will mean toppling your comfortable, predictable life. Toppling the system, loosing much, and not sure if you will be better off or not. In the end... you will, but it will be scary.

So, steps are being taken now, but they are still timid. My feeling is 2006 and 2008 will still be a surprise to most of us while the Repugs and their Dino's still hold onto power while the country continues to collapse and the world burns. I really think big pain is coming and 2012 will be a pinnacle year, in many ways, for many reasons,

[ourbluenation]

88. We are the party!!!

:toast:

[RestoreGore]

98. Then why is Bush still in power?

Look at what is happening in Mexico now regarding their election... Then look at us. I think the difference is shameful for us. We couldn't even stand up for our Constitution and rightful President when it counted, and now people expect him to just run again with NO CHANGES to the status quo as if nothing happened or changed? Perhaps we simply have passed through the looking glass.

[ourbluenation]

144. I was speaking in terms of the democratic party - * is republican n/t

[Subdivisions]

68. Great link! and

"speak from the heart and "let it rip."" and "let the chips fall where they may"? What a novel idea!

Reminds me of...dare I say it?...Kinky Friedman's philosophy.

[johnaries]

75. We NEED you, Al!

I honestly believe him when he says he's not "planning" on running. And after what he's been through, who could blame him?

Let's face it, we have a lot of good, viable candidates for 2008. Some who might have a better chance at winning than Al.

But Bush has done a lot of damage to our country, and I am convinced that no one is better qualified to fix that damage than Al Gore.

I actually remember some people who voted against Gore because he was "too intellectual".

I mean, DAMN! When you're talking about running the country, don't you want the smartest guy available? :shrug:

HELLO!

[femrap]

77. And our planet would have a decent chance

to overcome the assholiness of * and his environmental policies.

It certainly would be karmatic to have gone full circle.

So who for VP? Hillary? Wouldn't that be a hoot??????

[mirrera]

79. In...n/t

[ms liberty]

80. Count me in! K&R n/t

[Tab]

81. Gore as President. Hillary as VP.

'nuf said.

Let's kick some ass!!

[Southsideirish]

117. I can't stand her but her name on the ballot might help. I'll even work

for HER (as VP) to get HIM in the White House but I'd really have to hold my nose to do it.

[RestoreGore]

135. Hilary Clinton As VP With Al Gore?

Unacceptable.

[samsingh]

83. even if the odds are the same

Pitbulls, once going wild, are very difficult to stop. they are very powerful dogs

[ClayZ]

84. We would too!

:kick:

[kansasblue]

85. If he picks Feingold for VP I will join you.

[autorank]

86. Yep, 100% full tilt...he's on top of the BIGGEST issue ever... K&R

The end of the species due to climate change AND he's the only leader of his stature
who is actually making this the #1 issue. The rest have all failed, all over the world,
because this is very bottom line. No time to fool around with a 20 foot sea level rise
coming (scientific consensus in past 2-3 months due to new data). It was thought to be
3' but that changed with the new data.

He knows what the main problem is and it's a problem we all face, life or death due to
maladaptive behavior on our part.

[AlGore-08.com]

89. We'd like to cordially invite you all to join our Draft Gore 08 Campaign

We're 100% Grassroots. Volunteer sign up is here:

http://www.algore.org/index.php?option=com_civicrm&Itemid=306

[RestoreGore]

99. But only if you are ego driven

because that is what this site is all about.

[oxbow]

90. I think he's waiting for us to draft him

I still think that Al Gore won't throw his hat into the ring himself...I think he is waiting for us to push him. If he runs though, he could ride the wave of Clinton nostalgia all the way to Pennsylvania Avenue! Despite their problems, these bunch of wackos make the Clintons look like the new Golden Age.

[Balderdash]

93. Please Al Please

run, we need you!

[garybeck]

95. he's still my #1 choice

[AtomicKitten]

96. I will too.

My work is such that I can squeak it in in the middle of the night and otherwise devote my waking hours to re-electing President Gore.

However, I feel bad turning over this pile 'o crap for him to untangle.

[Meshuga]

100. I'd love to see Gore run!

He would have my vote.

[laruemtt]

102. think how wonderful it will be when

history records gore taking his rightful place as president and overseeing the imprisonment and trial of the idiot that stole the presidency from him! gotta love that karma.

[RestoreGore]

106. In what universe is that going to happen?

It should have happened in 2000...and we should have made sure it did, like the people of Mexico are doing now. I think the American people as a whole already proved that this Constitution really means nothing to them. I then support Al Gore in whatever he does, and think spending time trying to force him to run in this same system when he already won is fruitless. But gee, I sure wish I had known about this site when I was petitioning Congress to fulfill their oaths according to the 12th amendment in restoring his stolen term to him. That however, will never happen either. At least, not in this universe. As Mr. Gore also stated, it was meant to be, and I now believe he has found his calling. And we the people missed an opportunity to show what we were made of. Do we then deserve a second chance? Sorry, but after the last six years I would say no. 2004 was the year we all should have crowded into Washington DC in the millions to DEMAND that Al Gore be restored to the Presidency he and we had stolen from us. But it is obvious to me now it wasn't that important to people then. And yes, to me that matters now, because it does make all of this look like a political game instead of a matter of principle.

[HeeBGBz]

103. He's my guy and we owe him a presidency

I would love to help get him there.

[Stephanie]

105. ME TOO! AL 08!

Sign me up!

[UDenver20]

107. Amen

[zanne]

108. I'm with you

It's only right.

[femmocrat]

110. Same here! And I know many who feel the same way.

Gore/Clark '08 = Dream Team!

[helderheid]

113. Ditto. RE-elect Gore '08!

[Southsideirish]

116. I'll start right now and dedicate my life to getting him elected.

[BelgianMadCow]

119. Only one more till 50! I was inspired by Al since his MLK day speech

and I got the feeling he is a truly honest man.

Which is needed above all else.

I still remember the start of F911

He would be great when reelected.

[samsingh]

123. you and so many other people

Gore may be the planet's best chance

[TAPat]

125. Count me in!

[byronius]

129. Utterly. Totally. The Al.

[road2000]

133. Please sign DraftGore.com petition

There are so many beautiful tributes to Al Gore on this thread. DraftGore's petition gives supporters a chance to add comments. Yours are welcome and encouraged!
www.DraftGore.com

[npincus]

160. I did!

thanks! :)

[Guy Fawkes]

137. I think Gore has gained some credibility...

since 2000. Unless Feingold is running, I'd work on a Gore campaign.

[B Calm]

138. Great post! Nominated for greatest page!!

[Union Label]

153. And when he WINS

I hope with all heart that all the lying repuke bastards are sentenced to Gitmo.

[Swamp Rat]

156. Me too!!!!

:patriot: GEAUX AL GORE :kick:

AL GORE 2008!!!

[Crewleader]

157. In every way to support the true President for 08!

Al Gore knows he has my vote! ;-)

[gulliver]

161. I'll listen, but I'm still not sure about him.

I've seen Gore the educator, the adviser, the attack dog, the chearleader, the fighter, the humorist, the visionary, the entrepreneur. I have yet to see Gore the leader, Gore the coach. He seems ambivalent about authority. He balks and signals "not me" when it comes time to yank the leash on America and tell it what to do rather than merely sell himself to it.

Bush established the master/servant relationship with America very quickly, despite being an asshole and an ignoramus. Gore has to accept authority, and balance it. Not tyrannical, not high-handed, but authoritative and accountable. Persuasive, but with a supervisory attitude, not a grovelling or servile one. He has to tell truth to power even when the power is the people.

It really is like an alpha male in a dog pack, IMO. Gore couldn't grab that brass ring psychologically. Kerry was even less able to. So far, I only see it in Clark.

[baldguy]

162. ditto

[Uncle Joe]

163. A visionary, a leader, a humanitarian,

an empower er of the people to transcend their natural boundaries. Al Gore is a man of all seasons, a remarkable American who for the sake of our nation and the planet, I will do all that I can to put him in the White House where he belongs.