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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:58 PM
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Will any major Democrat call for an immediate cease-fire?
The silence from top Dems is deafening... :(
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Master Mahon Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:59 PM
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1. I think good old Kucinich has with a few others.
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 05:01 PM by Master Mahon
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A bill we can support!
Finally, we have a bill in the House of Representatives that we need to support. Brought by Dennis Kucinich and with 23 co-sponsors, H. Con. Res. 450 calls for an immediate cease-fire, multi-party negotiations and an international peacekeeping force. Click here to read the text of the bill.
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http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizationsORG/jvfp/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=4691
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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:18 PM
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14. Anyone in the Senate? Any prez contenders?
It is nice to see some calling for it but sadly they are peripheral in US politics. Their influence is limited to their districts, and in the cases of a few others, to a small segment of the national population, i.e., a slice of the progressive movement.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:08 AM
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17. The OP asked for a 'Major' Democrat
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:01 PM
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2. How about Ned Lamo--oh, never mind.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:08 PM
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3. I was going to ask, "Do you mean, other than Dennis Kucinich?"
But somebody else beat me to it.

Of course, we all know that you knew about him.

I, too, wonder when somebody *other* than Kucinich will come out for peace.

Any ideas here?
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:16 PM
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4. Since when does a cease-fire equal peace???
A cease-fire is another name for a "pause" button. It doesn't solve the problem that sparked the war.

I don't want a cease-fire. I don't want a peace treaty. I WANT A SOLUTION!!! And the way I see it, there is no solution possible that allows Hezbollah and Hamas to remain armed. The terrorists must be disarmed. There is just no other way for there to be peace in that region. And if the terrorists cannot be convinced to drop their arms, there may not be any alternative other than war.

And people in that region that thinks all Jews need to be killed or that Israel needs to be annihilated probably are going to have to be removed from this planet. Civilization just cannot accept genocidal thinking in the 21st century.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:24 PM
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6. Me, too.
"Civilization just cannot accept genocidal thinking in the 21st century."

I agree with this, too. But I would extend it to all sides of the equation.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:29 PM
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8. "Civilization just cannot accept genocidal thinking in the 21st century."
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 05:30 PM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
Brilliant. Simple, clear, nothing more really needs to be said. I wish you would post this as its own thread. Every nation in the world needs to make your sentence a credo. And then we need to live it.

Edit - oops - I meant this for Jerry 611. I hope he reads it.
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:00 PM
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11. thank you
I guess the world still hasn't outgrown the "kill them all" mentality.

The terrorists are not freedom fighters. They do not have any similarity to our founding fathers. Our founding fathers did not promote the killing of British civilians. Their attacks were focused against the government and the military of the King.

The terrorists in the mid-east are intentionally killing innocent people or putting innocent people in extreme danger, and then they use those deaths to promote propaganda. That is not freedom fighting. And then these terrorists have the same philosophy that the Nazis had. They think their race and religion is superior to everyone else. And that Jews are to blame for everything and must all be killed. I thought that kind of thinking died in WW2. I guess I was wrong.
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sgxnk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:18 PM
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15. exactly
the founding fathers also did not call for destruction of england

whereas the terrorist leaders HAVE called for israel's destruction

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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:23 PM
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16. You're welcome, although after rereading your post I am now a pretzel
"And people in that region that thinks all Jews need to be killed or that Israel needs to be annihilated probably are going to have to be removed from this planet. Civilization just cannot accept genocidal thinking in the 21st century."

Quite the conumdrum. It all goes back to that "Can the intolerant be tolerated?" question. The answer is , no, the tolerant cannot tolerate the intolerant, because then they would be signing their own death warrant.

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Master Mahon Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:48 PM
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10. " I would extend it to all sides of the equation"
Precisely! Excellent comment.
One persons 'terrorist' is another persons 'freedom fighter'!
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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:17 PM
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13. Sadly, Kucinich is a peripheral figure in US politics
I don't consider him a major Democrat, and I don't think many people outside the progressive movement know anything about him.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:16 PM
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5. Not yet, other than Kucinich, but a major Republican (Chuck Hagel) has
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 05:17 PM by oberliner
"The sickening slaughter on both sides must end now. President Bush must call for an immediate ceasefire. This madness must stop," Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel, a possible candidate in the 2008 presidential election, said on the Senate floor.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060731/pl_afp/mideastconflictlebanon_060731203324
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:25 PM
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7. No because the campaign contributions from . . .
AIPAC and friends will dry up.

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:32 PM
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9. What!??? And, be labeled (Gasp!) "peaceniks" by Rush???
Why, what would 'murka think if the Democrats were to complain about the mere "birth pangs of the New Middle East."?.

What do you expect from our "leaders"? Courage? Ethics? Humanity?

Don't be silly. They have to be "practical" and "win the south".
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:04 PM
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12. as recent history has shown, the dem party is decidedly pro-war.
the silence is really no surprise, is it?
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