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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:42 AM
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WaPo ombudsman will no longer reply to critics
Can we get a Waaahmbulance for this nice lady?

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http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/01/washington-post-ombudsman-says-she.html

Washington Post ombudsman says she will no longer reply to critics
1/18/2006 07:21:00 PM

The Washington Post's ombudsman has announced she's no longer going to reply to critics. So what exactly is the Washington Post paying this woman for?

The Washington Post's new ombudsman has come under some criticism of late for writing a series of rather poor columns. Her first claim to fame was commenting on Bob Woodward's ethical lapse of failing to tell his editor, or the public, for two years that he was intimately involved in the Valerie Plame affair, while he went on TV and criticized the special prosecutor. The ombudsman's recommendation for fixing the problem of Woodward refusing to come clean to his editor? Bob needs an editor.

Then, just last week, the ombudsman wrote last week that Jack Abramoff gave lots of money to Democrats. In fact, Jack Abramoff never gave a dime to Democrats, his personal donations were only to Republicans. The ombudsman went on to suggest that conservative critics were correct in being angry at the Post for not mentioning all the Democrats who Jack Abramoff personally gave money to (again, there were none).

And the latest controversy is over another Post reporter writing that Bush "repeatedly consulted" with members of Congress about his illegal domestic spying program. In fact, the administration informed a few select members of Congress about parts of the program but gave them no option to agree or disagree with what was taking place, and in fact, several members of Congress expressed concern about what the administration was proposing to do. Therefore, to suggest that the administration repeatedly consulted with members of Congress - i.e., those members of Congress had input on the spy program and thus endorsed it - is not true.

Well, Media Matters, a lead media watchdog group, complained to the ombudsman about this last issue, the ombudsman responded, and when Media Matters responded to the ombudsman's response, the Washington Post ombudsman apparently told the Washington Post's staff internally that she was no longer going to reply to critics.

...more...

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http://mediamatters.org/items/200601180006

Wash. Post ombudsman's new policy: "From now on, I don't reply"

Summary: Washington Post ombudsman Deborah Howell has reportedly posted on the Post's internal message board -- specifically mentioning a reply she made to a Media Matters item, which she claimed "just brought another attack" -- "From now on, I don't reply."

Washington Post ombudsman Deborah Howell has reportedly posted a comment on the Post's internal message board announcing that she has learned the following "lesson" from exchanges with Media Matters for America: "From now on, I don't reply." Howell's language did not make clear whether she meant that she would no longer reply to any criticism, or only to that registered by Media Matters.

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:45 AM
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1. A newspaper ombudsman who doesn't respond to public query?
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 07:45 AM by Cooley Hurd
:crazy:
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:04 PM
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58. heck of a job debbi
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 02:13 PM by ooglymoogly
bush appointee to the washington post will brook no criticism of recent lying and misrepresenting facts and will swift-boat any such criticism by deleting it.
seriously, i sent them an email suggesting they send further editions of wapo to the wh for distribution as talking points, saving themselves untold bucko's in dwindling distribution costs.
her connection to the radical right to say nothing of sucking up to this administration and persimmons (uc berkley scandal targeting left professors) is enough to make me puke. kick and rec.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #58
60. Use this email list created for my message: (HEADER AND MESSAGE)
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 02:27 PM by Radio_Lady
To: Deborah Howell <howelld@washpost.com>, Ombudsman <ombudsman@washpost.com>
Cc: Caroline Little <littlec@washpost.com>, Jim Brady <bradyj@washpost.com>, Tom Kennedy <kennedyt@washpost.com>, Tim Ruder <rudert@washpost.com>, Jen Moyer <moyerj@washpost.com>, Steve Stup <stups@washpost.com>, Keith Tomatore <tomatorek@washpost.com>, Eric Schvimmer <schvimmere@washpost.com>, Clifford Sloan <sloanc@washpost.com>

(Editor's note: You may want to remove the <> brackets. My email system uses them.)

Hello Deborah (and others at the Washington Post),

Why would a paper bother to create the post of ombudsman (and in your case ombudswoman) and then allow the employee in that position to say she would not respond to her critics? Isn't it your job to investigate and respond to readers' complaints?

If you refuse to do your job, why should the Washington Post continue to employ you? With respect to Democrats, your comments on Jack Abramoff and his bribes were initially incorrect. Now you refuse to comment or respond on that issue. Perhaps we should begin to question whether you, too, happen to be on the GOP payroll, as so many journalists and reporters elsewhere have been. If so, perhaps you need to disclose any conflicts of interest.

It is a sad day for journalism and a free press in America, when a formerly great paper like the Washington Post acts as your organization seems to act.

Maybe it's time to resign your position and let someone else have the job.

(CLOSING and NAME and ADDRESS)




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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:49 AM
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2. Start sending email addressed to her AND copied to the ALL of the....
...top Washington Post staff. Specifically state in the opening line of every email that you expect to get an answer from her since replying to ALL correspondence is part of her job description.

If you suspect that your email to the ombudsman is being blocked, start sending it to the top Washington Post staff AND copied to her.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:27 PM
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54. Here's the link to the Wash Post email addresses.
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 01:39 PM by Radio_Lady
This method has been working well for me since the early 1960s.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/interact/longterm/stfbio/wpemail.htm
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:51 AM
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3. uh, responding to critics is the defintion of ombudsman


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ombudsman



om·buds·man Audio pronunciation of "ombudsman" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mbdzmn, -bdz-, -bdz-)
n.

1. A man who investigates complaints and mediates fair settlements, especially between aggrieved parties such as consumers or students and an institution or organization.


So I guess she should look for another job, since she's just stated that she will no longer do her job.

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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #3
26. shouldn't that read "a PERSON who investigates"...
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #26
36. no, that would be an 'ombundsperson'
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #26
51. tell it to dictionary.com
that's where I got the def... :hi:

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:52 AM
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4. She probably needs a waaahmbulance. What a horrible job that
must be.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:00 AM
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5. Here is the email addresse for WPost from Media matters site



Take Action!

Contact information:

The Washington Post
Washington Post ombudsman: ombudsman@washpost.com
202-334-7582

Post e-mail directory
The Washington Post
1150 15th St. NW
Washington, DC 20071

When contacting the media, please be polite and professional. Express your specific concerns regarding that particular news report or commentary, and be sure to indicate exactly what you would like the media outlet to do differently in the future.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:01 AM
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6. KICKYPOO
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #5
22. I sent an e-mail.
Wow! This stuff just never ends, does it? Some of the media bias is so blatant, like this. At least it's easy to spot.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:02 AM
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7. to make it easier
ombudsman@washpost.com

202 334 7582

The WaPoo
1150 15th St NW
WQashington DC 20071

call her, write her, e-mail her.

I just did, asking if the paper bothers to create the post of ombudsman, isn't her job to investigate and respond to readers' complaints? If she will refuse to do her job, why does WaPoo continue to employ her. I also asked "Since your comments on Jack Abramof and his bribes were initially incorrect, with respect to democrats, and since you now refuse to comment or respond on that issue, should we question whether you, too, happen to be on the GOP payroll, as so many journalists and reporters elsewhere have been? Should you not also disclose such conflicts of interest? Oh, Wait. You guys are still protecting Mr. Woodward despite his obvious conflicts on important administration issues. that explains your position as ombudsman perfectly. It is a sad day for journalism and a free press in America, when a formerly great paper like the WaPoo acts as your organization seems to act."


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:06 AM
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9. Now we have to send kleenex in the waaahmbulance. n/t
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:18 PM
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52. She'll just delete your email. You should send it to her and copy all of
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 01:19 PM by Radio_Lady
her superiors. Can we get THEIR email addresses?

If you are old enough, you might remember Durward Kirby, a CBS newsman now deceased. He used to send complaint letters to people (usually underlings) and COPY EVERYONE UP THE LADDER from him/her, right up to the top.

I got amazing results using that method with GM once. My immigrant father-in-law ordered a stretch limousine from them. It arrived WITH MORE OPTIONS than he wanted, and they tried to get the money for the vehicle with the extras.

I was furious, wrote a letter to the manager of the dealership, his boss (regional manager) and everybody else right up to the CEO of GM (whoever that was). He got his limousine, as ordered, in just a few weeks.

I still use that method via computer or registered letters, if copies are required.

In peace,

Radio_Lady
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #7
61. See my post #60. I used much of antifaschits verbiage in my message.
Thanks for posting it.
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:02 AM
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8. I want a job at the Post!
I could be a reporter who doesn't write stories.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:07 AM
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10. LOL! n/t
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:09 AM
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11. Better yet send your CV & apply for her job!
State you heard it was available.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #11
16. Great Idea. Let's all send in resumes and CVs for her job, based on her
statement that she won't do her job anymore.

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #8
18. You certainly wouldn't be the first
;)
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:36 AM
Response to Reply #8
43. I could apply for a fact-checker position there.
Apparently, those jobs are given to the deaf, dumb and blind!
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #43
64. It's actually hard to be wrong all the time
Unless your job is to echo GOP talking points. Then it's the easiest job on Earth.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:30 PM
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71. you'd get paid more as an editor who doesn't edit
with those kind of skills and experience, one definitely belongs in management :rofl:
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:11 AM
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12. She's been on the job less than a year
Friday, February 25, 2005; Page A02

Deborah Howell, the Washington bureau chief and editor of Newhouse News Service, was named ombudsman of The Washington Post yesterday, a job in which she will serve as independent critic of the newspaper on behalf of its readers.

Howell, 64, is a veteran of the news business who is active in national journalism organizations and has described herself as "feisty and aggressive." She will have an office in the paper's fifth-floor newsroom, a weekly column on the paper's editorial page and a two-year contract with a possible one-year extension by mutual agreement. Getler also writes a weekly internal memo to the paper's reporters and editors.

The newspaper's ombudsman is the readers' representative and receives, investigates and reports on complaints on a wide range of topics, sometimes suggesting how to do better. Only about three dozen newspapers have such posts. The Post has had ombudsmen since 1970. Most have been news veterans.

Howell's appointment comes as The Post's editors struggle to reverse recent circulation declines driven in part by competition from cable television, the Internet and other media outlets. The rise of bloggers and media-focused Web sites also produces more frequent, pointed scrutiny for all newspapers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51519-2005Feb24.html


Howell, if ya can't take the heat....
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #12
50. I'd apply, but I don't have the right background. However, if YOU do,
I'd send my resume pronto.

That's basically saying, "I don't plan to do my job." What's next? Donald Trump said it best, "You're fired!"
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 04:03 AM
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75. So, she was a GOP plant (they're everywhere) whose job it was to push
GOP talking points. Obviously she was not told that the job might be a little difficult, since the public is NOT stupid, unless it's a reichwing audience, ie, Fox viewers. She must have been used to freep audiences, and was probably in shock when she encountered intelligent beings who could tear her rightwing talking points to shreds.

Since she's decided not to do her job, I imagine she'll be headed over to the Moonie Times, or Fox which is the dumping ground for indictment survivers, journalistic rejects, pardoned criminals, not and, of course, bawling reformed sinners.

CNN, The NYT, The Washington Post, have all been taken over by the State Propaganda Dept. It's pretty complete now, the takeover. We must act now, the way the people of the Soviet Union did.

I remember listening to a former oppressed citizen of the USSR who said that 'the problem with America is Americans think they are being told the truth'! 'We in the USSR, however, KNEW we were being lied to, and paid little attention to the 'media'. I have taken her advice and believe nothing from the media, unless I research it now. They are no longer to be trusted, all bought and paid for, or under threat of some kind, or they are part of it all. Anyway, at least I'm no longer frustrated, thinking they got stuff wrong. I know it is deliberate now, and sadly, so many I talk to feel the same way.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:31 AM
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13. I think WAPO needs to revisit the definition
om·buds·man
Pronunciation: 'äm-"budz-m&n, 'om-, -b&dz-, -"man; äm-'budz-, om-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural om·buds·men /-m&n/
Etymology: Swedish, literally, representative, from Old Norse umbothsmathr, from umboth commission + mathr man
1 : a government official (as in Sweden or New Zealand) appointed to receive and investigate complaints made by individuals against abuses or capricious acts of public officials
2 : one that investigates reported complaints (as from students or consumers), reports findings, and helps to achieve equitable settlements
- om·buds·man·ship /-"ship/ noun

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:34 AM
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14. Isn't that what an 'ombudsman' is for???? nt
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 08:39 AM by MookieWilson
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:39 AM
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15. Well, since we have pharmacists who don't have to dispense prescriptions,
why not an ombudsman who doesn't respond to critics?

mikey_the_rat
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:48 AM
Response to Reply #15
74. hahaha! that's exactly it, we're in bush world!
it's a batshit crazy land where every day is opposite day. up is down, black is white, failure is success, and apparently job descriptions are designations of what a person *will not* do.

fema director? nah, i don't deal in national emergencies. i'm a fashion god.
fed chair on mine safety oversight? nah, we don't do mine safety.
security secretary? we don't pay attention to memos warning about OBL, planes, and terrorism...

all of us migh as well apply this to our lives.
i'm a firefighter, i refuse to fight fires, especially at that senator's house.
i'm a grocer, i refuse to sell produce, especially to people i don't like.
i'm a musician, i refuse to play music at my concert, 'cause i hate that guy's hair.

:crazy: we are through the looking glass, ladies and gents. except alice seems to have had a much better time.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:08 AM
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17. Aww...da poor wittle apowogists.
Pieces of shit cowards.

Every single one of them.
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saberjet22 Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:12 AM
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19. WaPo ombudsman will no longer reply to critics
If she's not going to reply, I'm not going to read her comments. So there!
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:22 AM
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20. thanks for posting this Will - K&R
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:26 AM
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21. Do we need an ombudsman for the ombudsman?
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 09:26 AM by baldguy
ad infinitum
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:03 AM
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23. Bush's Imperial Presidency seems to be spreading to his........
"Imperial Propaganda Catapulters". I can see how this would be the natural progression of things in Washington at this particular moment in history. She answers to no one and takes it upon herself to change long standing traditions at her discretion.
I think we have GWB's "soul-mate" here! ;)
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #23
72. That's what I was thinking.....
"We don't need no stinkin' badges...."

That's a movie quote.
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:19 AM
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24. Debbie, Debbie, Debbie...
...So you think the answer to the issue of 'critics' commenting about the stupidity of your editorials is not to respond to those criticisms?...or, indeed, probably not even to read them. Try covering your ears and hollering 'ya,ya,ya,ya,ya,ya,...I'm not listening to you...ya,ya,ya,ya' - you get the picture. I've got an even better idea, quit making stupid-ass comments and observations. In fact, the fact that you're even in this job says a helluvalot about what the Post has come to. You clearly are an inept excuse for a journalist...my guess is that even if you went to some journalism school you never demonstrated an ounce of critical thinking and certainly not the ability to cleverly articulate an original thought. So you must either be screwing your way into the job or otherwise positioned for favored treatment - who's your daddy anyway?

You're not responding? You're not thinking either, so why not just quit and save the paper the ink and the newsprint?

By the way, whether or not you're thinking or listening or responding, one day there will be a reckoning, and your name will be high on the list.
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #24
34. Opps...
...I just got a look at this lady on MM. I apologize for the bit about her screwing her way into the job...good God where do they find such tight-ass, pursed-lipped, old maids? In fact, she looks just like the picture on my granddaughter's pack of 'Old Maid' cards.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:35 PM
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48. This one?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #48
53. Here's the image -- we post, you decide. She probably needs more
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 01:25 PM by Radio_Lady
than a full day at the spa. She looks like (I imagine) the woman who ran the orphanage in the play "Annie" -- maybe it's the red dress and the high collar. Was that Carol Burnett in the movie?!

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/images/I51823-2005Feb24
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:22 AM
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25. Just trot down to DC and knock on her office door - she'll have to hide
:evilgrin:
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:23 AM
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27. Whaaaa?!
What, exactly, is the point of an ombudsperson who doesn't actually ombud?
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:23 AM
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28. it's not just the WAPO, the NY Times is sealing it's bubble
http://www.slate.com/id/2134381/&#emailbubble

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001847386

Want to e-Mail a 'NY Times' Columnist? Better Subscribe to TimesSelect

If you haven't signed up for TimesSelect, The New York Times' online subscription product, don't bother e-mailing the paper's star columnists.

Since the Times put the words of its eight Op-Ed columnists behind a paid wall last September, it has also decided that only TimesSelect subscribers should be allowed to e-mail Paul Krugman, Maureen Dowd, David Brooks, et al.

Back in September the Times asked the hundreds of papers who publish the Op-Ed contributors through The New York Times News Service (NYTNS) to stop printing the writers' e-mail addresses with the columns (and to take the columns off their Web sites, too). Apparently not everyone got the message, because last week the Times' syndication service sent out an advisory reminding its client papers to remove the e-mail addresses.

"If you are not a TimesSelect subscriber you won't have access to that e-mail functionality," Times spokesman Toby Usnik confirmed Tuesday. "It centralizes around the TimesSelect site."
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #28
32. Ah, capitalism.........
if you can't afford to pay for "Times Select" you're not entitled to the news! The greed in this country is going to be it's downfall. Can class warfare be too far away? Jesus on a stick, when will this shit STOP! :grr:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #32
37. oh please. it's not 'news' it's 'opinion'
and Cable TV costs a hell of a lot more than Times Select does. The Times charges for its intellectual property, the writing of its hired columnists, not 'news'
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #32
55. don't worry
The NY Times moves step by step towards irrelevancy each day.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:25 AM
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29. ahhhh.... the old "talk to the hand" maneuver
are there any grown-ups left ?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:51 AM
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30. How Orwellian. The "ombudsman" is an Editorial writer and apologist.
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jdadd Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:54 AM
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31. Being Ombudsman is harrrd work!!
:cry:
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:59 AM
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33. Does Deborah have to get approval from her boss for this?
Shouldn't we be bombarding her boss with these complaints? Is this "no reply" policy just for media matters? Has anyone gotten a response from their emails yet?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:02 AM
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35. WaPo has just joined the likes of Newsmax and the NYT n/t
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:10 AM
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38. Lalalalalalalalalala
If a conservative doesn't acknowledge it, it doesn't exist. :crazy: :silly: :freak:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:23 PM
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46. Lalalalalalalalalala picture:
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:20 AM
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39. So will the post hire an ombudsman for their ombudsman?
just wondering.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:30 PM
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62. See upthread my post #60. I told her she might consider resigning.
As someone else said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

Off topic: Hey, THAT's why I hate cooking!
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:26 AM
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40. Media Matters getting it done!
Whatever their approach is, it works. Major props to them :thumbsup:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:27 AM
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41. What a joke. O.K. I get to do whatever I want to do on my job from now on.
And define it however I want, since apparently those are the new rules.
I guess she is thinking that if Rethugs and Bush can get away with it, she can do.

What a joke.
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. And pathetic, too. She should be embarassed. Media Matters does a great, fair job at what they do.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:30 AM
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42. She's inaccurate & thin-skinned

According to mediamatters, she mischaracterized the reporting of the Post's own reporters about the Abramoff donations. This suggests journalistic sloppiness/laziness to me. Put thin-skinned/defensive on top of that and you've got the picture of someone put in a vaunted position without the requisite talents. So what else is new? The Washington Post is a business like any other. Who you know, skillful brown-nosing and "impressive" credentials (anyone remember Janet Cooke of "Jimmy" fame) may take precedence over skill in hiring at the Post.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:15 PM
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44. she isn't very good, but I think her column is being misrepresented
The column I read, from January 15, talked about the coverage of the Abramoff scandals. At the end, she said that the Post's coverage was being criticized from both sides -- those who thought the coverage downplayed the relationship between Abramoff and Rove (a valid criticisim in my view) and those who thought that the Post is avoiding "nailing" Democrats involved with Abramoff. Here is exactly what she wrote:

"The second complaint is from Republicans, who say The Post purposely hasn't nailed any Democrats. Several stories, including one on June 3 by Jeffrey H. Birnbaum, a Post business reporter, have mentioned that a number of Democrats, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) and Sen. Byron Dorgan (N.D.), have gotten Abramoff campaign money.

So far, Schmidt and Grimaldi say their reporting on the investigations hasn't put Democrats in the first tier of people being investigated."

Compare what she wrote with the Ameriblog characterization of it:
"Then, just last week, the ombudsman wrote last week that Jack Abramoff gave lots of money to Democrats.... The ombudsman went on to suggest that conservative critics were correct in being angry at the Post for not mentioning all the Democrats who Jack Abramoff personally gave money to (again, there were none)."

She never said "personally" and she didn't say "lots of money to Democrats". Again, I think she has been doing a poor job as ombudsman and if she's going to refuse to reply to critics, she should get another job. If it turns out she wrote another column that can be fairly characterized as saying what Ameriblog says she wrote, then I'll stand corrected. Otherwise, I think critics of Howell would be more effective in their criticism if they were more accurate in describing what she has written.

onenote
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:20 PM
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45. The Waaahmbulance is on the way!
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:24 PM
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47. Well, well...sounds like she is mad
because Rev. Moon got crowned "monarch of America" and she was left behind. Perhaps the Post is trying desperately to become the Washington Times Lite.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:36 PM
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49. WaPo: purveyors of paper-thin BULLSHIT
a la the Bush junta. Those of you who have access to the higher reaches of public, intellectual discourse should be screaming continuously.
Are you?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:36 PM
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56. Here are the top names. I can't confirm email addresses.
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 01:45 PM by Radio_Lady
But the sequence seems to be as follows:

(LASTNAME)(FIRST INITIAL)(at)washpost.com

So:

Caroline Little <littlec(at)washpost.com> et cetera. I'll try this out later to see if that works or not.
Chief Executive Officer and Publisher

Jim Brady
Executive Editor

Tom Kennedy
Managing Editor for Multimedia

Tim Ruder
Vice President, Marketing

Liddy Manson
Vice President, Jobs, Cars & Real Estate

Jen Moyer
Vice President, Finance

Steve Stup
Vice President, Advertising Sales

Keith Tomatore
Vice President, Operations and Human Resources

Eric Schvimmer
Vice President, Technology

Clifford M. Sloan
Vice President, Business Development and General Counsel
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:38 PM
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57. Must be a lousy job!
Working for a once respected paper that's now become a paragon of dishonsty.

It's to the point where, if people aren't dusgusted with the Post- they're laughing at them. No wonder she won't reply. It's not like management is going to do anything about the situation anyway.

Good thing Catherine Graham didn't live to see this.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:18 PM
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59. Sound's like someone who, "Needs to spend most time with her family..."
Sounds like a WH shill to me.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:31 PM
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63. I posted all the top executive's email addresses at my post #60.
Yeah, go spend more time with your family.

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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:39 PM
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65. That's what they're supposed to do!
The ombusdman is supposed to be there as a sort of voice for the readers. How can she possibly do that if she won't even listen to readers' concerns? It's about as ridiculous as having a non-reporting reporter (Miller, Woodward). Or the non-editing editors that apparantly never supervise what reporters are doing. No wonder people have lost all faith in the media.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 05:13 PM
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66. So WaPo will change the name of the witch then, right? n/t
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:50 PM
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67. Hey Will! Did you see what Skinner just posted? It's on the front page!

Replies to WaPo Ombudsman disappear down memory hole (but we got 'em!)

:rofl:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:21 PM
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69. I saw
She's going to have a whole series of bad days.

Thank Media Matters.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:18 PM
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68. I should try this in my classroom
"I no longer respond to questions from students."

I could do my job much more efficiently if I instituted that policy.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:29 PM
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70. replying to critics is hard work
poor lady :puke:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:19 AM
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73. I disagree with media matters
Here is the paragraph in dispute

"The NSA program operated in secret until it was made public in news accounts last month. Since then, President Bush and his advisers have defended it as legal and necessary to protect the country against future attacks and have said Congress was repeatedly consulted. But Democrats, some Republicans and constitutional law experts have raised concerns about whether Bush overstepped his constitutional authority and violated privacy laws meant to guard against the government spying on its own citizens without a warrant."

Given that 2nd sentence, does it really sound like either the reporter or the WaPo is shilling for Bush? Okay, MediaMatters is technically correct that the article did not refute the "Congress was repeatedly consulted" part. But mofoing tanj, talk about straining at gnats. I would say that the part they refuted and the way they described it was a pretty good shot to the BFEE. "Democrats, some Republicans and constitutional law experts". Preach it, baby, that smells like I-M-P-E-A-C-H to me, and not a partisan criticism. Why should we give half a flying fu#$ about the "Congress was repeatedly consulted" part?

Cripes, if MediaMatters cannot find ten thousand more egregious examples of reporters, papers, and television shilling for the BFEE, then they need to find real jobs. Unless their job is to make enemies for the left.

Disclaimer: I recently applied for a research job at Mediamatters and never heard back.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:08 AM
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76. The story should have said that BushCo CLAIMED that Congress was consulted
And that Democratic members of Congress strongly disagreed with that statement. Without pointing out that there are two points of view, the WaHoPo left the (subtle) impression that there is only one. This may have been inadvertent, but at minimum it's sloppy reporting.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:06 AM
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77. mediamatters seems worse than sloppy on this point
but maybe it is just the sequencing. As I followed the story unfolding backwards. The first link led me to this:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200601100008

"Media Matters agrees that Linzer gave the administration's point of view. The problem is that, contrary to Howell's assertion, Linzer presented only the administration's point of view -- and that point of view is highly misleading, at best. ...

The following facts are not in dispute:

1) Linzer reported that "President Bush and his advisers ... have said Congress was repeatedly consulted."

2) There is ample evidence that Congress was not repeatedly consulted.

3) Linzer did not include any reference to this evidence or quote or paraphrase anyone who disputed Bush's claim; nor did she indicate, in any way, that the claim may not be true or unanimously agreed-upon. She simply reported the misleading claim by Bush and his advisers without including any contradictory information."

Except that is mostly untrue. That "Linzer presented only the administration's point of view" is simply not true if you read the three lines I included from the article. It is true about the Bush claim that Congress was repeatedly consulted, but that is a very minor point of the article. On balance, it is simply not true that Linzer's piece "presented only the administration's point of view".

Point 3 is not true either that "She simply reported the misleading claim by Bush ... without including any contradictory information." Bush's claim is that 1. what he did was legal and 2. Congress was repeatedly consulted. The contradictory information that many disagree with claim #1 was included and that is a very substantial rebuttal that mediamatters gives Linzer no credit for, while straining at the gnat which was left out.

The next link might make it clearer.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200601100004

"The NSA program operated in secret until it was made public in news accounts last month. Since then, President Bush and his advisers have defended it as legal and necessary to protect the country against future attacks and have said Congress was repeatedly consulted." (Linzer's article)

Linzer's article did not include a single word, in either her voice or anyone else's, pointing out that the administration's claim that "Congress was repeatedly consulted" is misleading at best."

"Did not include a single word" makes it sound like the words that followed in the article either are not substantial, or as in the quote they used, simply were not there. Mediamatters narrows the focus to that gnat while ignoring that in the big picture Linzer's article included a line which said that not only Democrats, but some Republicans and constitutional scholars say that what Bush did is illegal - a pretty solid rebuttal to Bush's POV.

I also think that the ombudsman has a point in that WaPo has discussed the question as to whether "Congress was repeatedly consulted" in a few other articles, so it is not like they shill that point for Bush.

The article is not perfect, but I think there are more serious errors in mediamatters' presentation. The article is not perfectly evil either. It hardly seems worthy of a major attack, much less the knee-jerk vitriol evidenced in this thread.


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