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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:17 AM
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Is this inconceivable for you, my fellow DU Americans?
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 06:19 AM by WannaJumpMyScooter
It is inconceivable for an American to imagine what it would be like to have a well-armed political party backed by foreign powers operating freely within our borders.


From
Blaming (some of) the victims
How poor Lebanese under Israeli fire are like poor blacks in Katrina
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=21165


Because, I got to admit, it is not too far fetched for me... watching the GOP and police operate in the NYC area over the past few years.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:23 AM
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1. Yeah, because they'd have to bump better-armed & entrenched domestic
corporate powers operating freely within our government.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:34 AM
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2. Of course it is happening in America, right now...as we write these posts.
Quite a few white protestors were subjected to the heartless treatment of the quasi-fascist tactics of the NYPD during our protest march re the Republican Convention. They were jailed for days without legal representation, forced to live in filthy conditions, to sleep on oily greasy floors in some warehouse or garage on the waterfront. All of this merely for protesting political ideology and the police manufactured reasons to wrap the huge crowd in orange fencing and arrest everyone within that wrap...like beans in a tortilla.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:49 AM
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4. Damn Damn Damn 3x Damn
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:52 AM
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6. White protestors? Why do you specify "white"? nt
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:16 AM
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8. Because the OP asked if it was inconceivable for Americans to under-
stand the plight of the Lebanese and related that plight to the treatment of blacks in NOLA.

I posted as I did because I was saying that large numbers of protesters in NY WERE treated unfairly and inhumanely as a result of a march. And by far, the great number of those arrested were white. And for the first time, many white Americans discovered what it felt like to be treated as second-class citizens, right here in their own native land.

Therefore there ARE Americans who ordinarily would never have even THOUGHT of being mistreated by authorities who discovered that they too were subject to unfair, inhumane and un-American treatment.That kind of mistreatment is generally saved for African Americans.

Hence, my answer to the OP was that it IS conceivable for Americans to have at least some understanding of how both the Lebanese and African Americans feel.

I think if you read my post you will see that that is what it says.



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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:20 AM
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9. This goes with that.... methinks.....
First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:34 AM
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10. How true...how very true.... nt
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 08:41 AM
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12. That makes sense, sorry for not reading carefully and being oversensitive.
:blush:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:49 AM
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5. I hate to break it to you, but it has happened.
Why do you think wthis Country has 50% of the World's prison population? This despite having only 5% of the World's population? Land of the free? I don't think so? How many Citizens have the Police killed in your Community this year to date?
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:05 AM
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7. No it's not inconceivable
The GOP already has a military force that will do its bidding without question, I'm talking about the US military, not law enforcement.

Military personnel followed orders at Abu Ghraib, Haditha, Fallujah, Hamandia, and perhaps other places that we may not be aware of, why is it impossible for the American people, and that includes
some here at DU, to believe that the US military will not follow orders issued to it by this administration.

As some here have pointed out, most military members have lost the ability to think for themselves,
they no longer care what's right, they just follow orders and convince themselves that they are doing their duty and keeping us "free".

The US nilitary has failed, they have failed to do what they all swore an oath too, they have failed to support and defend the Constitution, that happened when the Patriot Act was passed. And it continues with the NSA spying.

With a few exceptions the US military is becoming the GOP's personal army, and they will follow orders form the White House, even if it means the deaths of Americans.


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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 08:10 AM
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11. Bullshit
The GOP already has a military force that will do its bidding without question, I'm talking about the US military,

snip....

With a few exceptions the US military is becoming the GOP's personal army, and they will follow orders form the White House, even if it means the deaths of Americans.


You disgrace 99% of military personnel by that statement.

What the fuck will you say when and if the congress is democratically controlled in Nov and we still are in Iraq six months later?

You don't honestly believe we will get out if we win congress, do you? If you do, are are delusional.
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