ABC's This Week & The "McGovern Jab"

[Superman Returns]

I just find it hilarious that all these elite journalists on the panels call Iraq a disaster and on the brink of all out civil war yet despite the fact that the rationale and plan for going in are in the garbage can of history, the Democrats can't be anti-war or they will be like George McGovern and destroy the Democratic Party. Have you ever heard more twisted logic? THe war is going badly, terribly, and our strategy has been wrong. Yet Democrats need to support it to win? Am I missing something? In fact, George Will said that if Iraq goes up in all out civil-war it will actually benefit Republicans because the public would trust them more to handle the trouble? WTF? Why must Democrats adopt a quasi-support for the war with the occassional symbolic criticisms despite the fact that America as a whole is now against it and things are getting worse? Its really bothering me.

[ananda]

1. Those are just your average presstitutes..

.. at work.

[snappyturtle]

2. more "Jabberwocky" IMHOP!

This type of talk from pundents is so convoluted,twisted,mired,analogous sounding(B.S.) that I think the purpose is to make it so confounded that we just tune it out and they go about their devious ways.

[MissWaverly]

3. Sam Donaldson called it

He said then what are you trying to say is: that the answer to this is for the democrats to
go along and say the war is going great, the strategy is working. There was no reply, notice
that Cokie Roberts said that this would cause the congressman to start playing to their base
and would be the worse thing for the country. Yes, Cokie, the congress would start to do what
they are elected to do, represent the voters wishes and not the wishes of BIG OIL, and the
CORPORATIONS, it would indeed be the worst thing for the Beltway politics that have been
practiced for so long. They keep trying to put lipstick on a pig, they say that we would
have to get out if there was a civil war BUT the Republican strategy is to never ADMIT that there
is a civil war.

[asjr]

4. Cokie needs an enema.

[gratuitous]

5. Standard presstitute conventional wisdom

If things go well, Republicans benefit because things are going well. You know, like when Clinton was president. And when things go badly, Republicans really benefit because the public thinks the GOP know best how to get us out of problems. You know, like when anyone named Bush is president.

Actually, the presstitutes don't know that the public thinks the GOP is better able to handle problems; that's just their conventional wisdom. They can be bothered with polls showing 60% of the public thinks Iraq is an enormous fuck-up; facts have a liberal bias. Fortunately, George and Cokie and George are on every week to tell us to trust them, and not our own lying eyes.

And they draw multi-million dollar paychecks*, so you do the math.

*Those paychecks, of course, are heavily dependent on these frauds not seeing any problems whatsoever in Iraq or for the Republican party; so they damn well better not see anything wrong.

[Superman Returns]

6. well,

to be fair, Sam brought up this hypocricy. But the other two, Cokie and Will, more like Cookie and No-Will, just blabber nonsense. Either way to them, Republicans never bare any responsibility for ANYTHING. Its always the Democrats who should evolve on the issue despite the fact that its Republicans that got us in this mess and came up with the plan. I just wish someone would ask them why Democrats have to be pro-war when even they admit that it is not going well and that the reasons for going in never played out?

[MissWaverly]

8. they have to pro-war so that the people will go along

they want the Democrats to echo everything they say, they know that support for this war
is going, going, gone with the American people. They want the Democrats to bs the people
with I think the strategy will work in the end. They are already starting a strategy to
force the democrats to stay the course after their return to power. It's not going to work,
they have non-strategy, no plan and Rumsfailed has failed big time. Not even the best
PR and the most strong arm policies can turn back the clock.

[MissWaverly]

7. It's not just the GOP

remember what Cokie said, if the congress starts playing to their base it would be the worst
thing possible for the country. Why? It would start to unravel, this whole superpower role,
the USA constantly at war for some sort of balance. Russia's defense budget small compared to
ours; we have created this huge war machine and now Mr. Wilkes is going to start talking about
how there is an established kickback from defense contractors to GOP'ers. It's a loop, of course
they don't want it to stop. That's why they are up there like bobbleheads supporting the war.
The Republican Party does not represent the majority of the American people, it never has. The
Republican Party is not the darling of the rich, it never was. It found a way to create
a funding source from government contracts and panders to affluent extremists like the fundies
and the moonies, AIPAC. If the American people awaken and demand a representative government;
the whole thing comes crashing down.