Anyone wonder about the timing of the World Trade Center movie?

[liberal N proud]

Anyone here wonder about the timing of the World Trade Center movie this week?

A couple of months before the mid term elections, could it be designed to excite the country? Remember 9/11 and all the hype? They need something and could they be timing this to help in November?

Just wondering if I am the only one who is suspect of the timing of this movie.

[mconvente]

1. fair call, but it is directed by oliver stone

Who, by his own account, is a liberal. So I'm pretty sure he wouldn't stump for Shrub at all doing this.

[tridim]

8. From what I've seen, the movie is about the people

Not Bush, and not the attack itself. It's supposed to be very non-political.

[The Gunslinger]

23. From what I seen and heard

It almost seems like a fell good movie. A "triumph of the human spitit" kind of thing. Strange for oliver Stone.....Wonder if he got a little $$$
on the side. I'll wait until I hear more about the movie, but the timing is very good for the Right wing, and having a "Liberal" do the film might just be a smoke screen. I hope not.

[MissWaverly]

2. I have been thinking that they want a second 9-11

to bolster their ratings, NOW we hav a virtual 9-11 to make us feel good about the GOP all over
again right before a national election. Hmmmmm!

[savemefromdumbya]

7. sure

keep the duct tape at the ready!

[MissWaverly]

13. Just another orange alert just for old times sake

[savemefromdumbya]

18. do you thin FEMA will just sound the sirens in the next attack?

I don't think FEMA has a clue?

[MissWaverly]

26. I have thought about this

If Baltimore is hit by anything from a hurricane to a terrorist attack, I am going to make
signs. One that will read, this is Baltimore, 60 miles North of the White House and in
big block letters, help, we need help, we have been hit by a ____________. That way somebody
on George's staff that can read will have a clue.

[savemefromdumbya]

34. do think Bush will know where north is?

[MissWaverly]

36. I will have an arrow pointing up

good point

[JeffR]

3. I think the timing has to do with the 5th anniversary of the event

And with or without this movie, they're going to pull out all the stops to remind everyone how their single biggest failure is their single biggest triumph. If that makes little sense, it fits right into the kind of country this has become.

[valerief]

20. Isn't Katrina is their single biggest domestic failure if you're counting

number of actual deaths?

[Amonester]

31. No.

... The unofficial death toll for Hurricane Katrina has risen to 1,836 as of May 18. Please see my May 27 post, Katrina Death Toll Surges to 1,836, for details.

http://robertlindsay.blogspot.com/2006/04/katrina-death-toll-passes-1600.html

New WTC Death Toll Is 2,752
NEW YORK, Oct. 30, 2003

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/29/attack/main580620.shtml

[Amonester]

32. +2591 (would still be alive today if the AWOL liar had not decided

to send them to their unnecessary death to avenge Poppy...)

http://icasualties.org


On edit: link.

[onehandle]

No. Not everything is a conspiracy.

That being said, I believe this film and "Flight 93" being released this soon after the events are in bad taste.

Of course, so is all of Bush's Presidency.

[liberal N proud]

5. True, not everything is a conspiracy but the bu$h regime can make one

paranoid.
Just never know what this regime will do to remain in control of the government.

[calico1]

4. Nah. Oliver Stone is no neocon.

He probably hates Bush. I doubt he'd want to help Republicans get elected. I think this is just because of the 5th anniversary.

[Warpy]

6. Not only is it being released just before the elections

and long before taste and compassion for the survivors would seem to require to heal, it is being marketed by the same outfit that marketed Gibson's snuff film, marketed heavily to fundy churches.

Get it yet?

It's a two hour campaign commercial, geared to scaring the hell out of churchgoers in the heartland so they'll get to the polls and vote for the party of the man who let it happen.

[savemefromdumbya]

9. 'Let' it happen?

[BlueStorm]

10. Yeah I was wondering about that as well...

but it could be nothing, just a movie that is marking the fifth anniversary like some posters on here said.

Blue

[pretzel4gore]

11. an analogy

your town hired a pest control officer (who played the flute)...supposedly, he was gonna get ridda all the rats with his flute, but when he played it, it was the kids, not the rats, that followed him. he ate them all. then he came back -YOUR TOWN HIRED HIM AGAIN! to get ridda the rats....and again, he played his flute, but only the town's kids followed the pied piper (albert fish was his name).....
meanwhile, the rats are still robbing cradles and popping outta toilets at night for a nice meal of sleeping human toes....
some would suggest the town's loss of its kids is actually a good thing re the gene pool (?)

[Sinti]

12. Not that they wouldn't wave the bloody flag every chance they get

But, I don't think Oliver Stone would do it for them. I thought it was a human story about two guys trapped in the wreckage. Actually, if it's what they say, it's a story that should be told, the one about people who actually suffered in this - rather than all the flag waving, nuke 'em all nonsense that we get every time we hear about it. I doubt it will bode as well for the thugs as they think - I could be wrong, though, it's happened before.

[MissWaverly]

15. they're advertising it as a feel good movie

how anyone can feel good about 9-11 is more than I would know. I remember Joseph Conrad
criticized romanticism of the Titanic sinking. He called it music to get drowned by.

[FredScuttle]

19. It's about two survivors

two Port Authority police officers that miraculously survived the North Tower collapse. I can feel good knowing there was a sliver of hope in a day filled with darkness and death.

[MissWaverly]

27. as long as it doesn't cheapen it

I hate to see yet another memorial to the brave Bush administration and the president's
great sacrifice on 9-11 as he sat reading "My Pet Goat."

[Sinti]

21. Yikes - "feel good movie" is a way too creepy descriptor to use

It's a huge tragedy no matter how you look at it. But, the human story does seem to be forgotten. The widows get brow beaten by Coultergeist and basically no one calls her on it - the survivors and volunteers get treated to the back of the hand now that they're sick with lung disease (thanks EPA) - and the people who were killed are being used as an excuse to run around the world and kill more people (people who had nothing to do with the original killing), I doubt they'd appreciate that. At least it's supposed to be about survivors and their personal courage that day.

[MissWaverly]

25. Give credit to the everyday people

It's like Bush and the GOP have fed off the energy and bravery of that day for years; but
would George Bush spend an extra 10 seconds to save somebody's life, we saw the answer
to that in Katrina.

[Sinti]

33. It doesn't hurt to show that in crisis situations people really do rise to

the occassion, and there was a lot of selfless bravery on that particular day - helps you have a little faith in mankind (ironically while simultaneously destroying your faith) I hope it's well done.

[MissWaverly]

38. well, I do too, maybe it will help America heal

I feel that the country has had a rough five years and the extreme partisanship of the Bush
administration and the Republican Congress has only hindered our healing as a nation. I hope
that things improve and America starts going back to One nation, indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.

[Mr_Spock]

14. No

Just don't think so.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

16. No. Not Everything Is A Big Giant Conspiracy. It's Just A Movie, To Make

money. That is all.

[Poll_Blind]

17. I think Stone's going to make TWO 9/11 movies and this is the first....

...one of them. This is just my conjecture, mind you. I think this is something in the way of insurance for him because the second one is going to address the questions that we all have, that everyone has to some extent, but which would not be taken as seriously as if he hadn't produced a piece like this.

  Just a thought.

PB

[NYCGirl]

30. According to IMDB, his next project is "Son of the Morning Star" about

George Armstrong Custer.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486654/

[Jane Eyre]

22. I've seen the movie already

I was lucky enough to get a free sneak preview ticket. There really isn't anything in the movie about the political aspect of 9-11. The closest that it gets to politics is that there is a brief clip of little George Bush speaking from the first bunker that he flew to. He looks small and scared, just as he did on 9-11. Isn't it amazing that the footage of Bush's first stop in the bunker is hardly ever shown?

The only thing that I can see that might be relevant is that the movie stirs up the emotions from that day. It is indeed about a group of Port Authority police officers who went into the building that day. They were trapped below when the buildings fell. Two survived, and it is their story that is the plot of the movie. There could be some controversy about a couple of things. One is that you hear constant loud thuds after the building is hit. It is the sound of bodies smashing into the sidewalk after they jump out of the building. Another is the astounding lack of information which was available to the police officers as they ride to the Twin Towers. They are shown discussing the reported news reports of the second tower being hit, but the only information that they have is second-hand information from the few phone calls from family members which managed to get through. The officers don't know whether that information is reliable. They go into the building with no verifiable information that the second tower was hit, despite the fact that everyone in the country saw the second plane hit on TV.

[Crabby Appleton]

24. I listened

to all of the NY Emergency Services tapes of that morning (several channels, several hours total time) You forget how isolated the dispatchers are; anyone with a TV on knew more about what was happening. Many of the police, EMS, and firefighters on the scene were equally isolated from outside information and frequently very excited in trying to communicate with dispatch, both to describe their situation, and trying to find out what was happening. They did the best they could under the extreme circumstances.

[MissWaverly]

28. I am not criticizing the 9-11 folks

Those who sacrificed that day deserve our thanks,
those who have exploited it, deserve our scorn.

[pretzel4gore]

29. there was a video of an official with a bullhorn

telling some firemen/ems workers to 'get out now, the building was going to be brought down!' (demolished by fiat).....someone said 'who told you that?' and the clip ended.....
you can find the clip if you want, but it does no good. in the end, oliver stone has the last word 'it was them darn boogeymen did it, just like poor jfk'

[MissWaverly]

37. I have a feeling that the truth will dribble out

somebody somewhere is going to talk, look at the Roosevelts, look at what people know about
their most personal secrets, its all out there, the same way with Lyndon Johnson and JFK.
I know that 9-11 will come out, not as soon as we would have liked but it will. But that
will not change the bravery, the sacrifice and the kindness of what people did that day.
If I had been president that day, I would have been so humbled by the spirit of the American
people that I would have put them first always for the rest of my appointment; but that's just
me, maybe I am too naive.

[helderheid]

35. I'm thinking perhaps just the opposite - Remember 9/11 and how

all the warnings were aggressively ignored.