Woman pours boiling hot oil over sleeping husband

[BOSSHOG]

A 45 year old DiamondHead, Mississippi woman is accused of dumping a pot of blistering hot grease on her sleeping husband leaving him with 3rd degree burns on more than half his body. The wife poured about two quarts of the oil on the man's head, face, shoulder and arms. The husband lived for a week before dying at the University of South Alabama burn center and could give police no information. The motive is unclear. She is still on the loose, possibly in Louisiana or Texas.

[pooja]

1. Is her name Thelma or Louise?

Or wait/ wait..was her husbands name Earl... Maybe those Dixie Chicks told her to do it.

[BOSSHOG]

3. Per the Sun-Herald of Gulfport

her name is Edna May Sanders. And per the story they weren't married a long time.

[pooja]

16. trying to make light of an obviously horrible way to die. I don't

know enough about the circumstances. And I prefer not to know too many details.

[BOSSHOG]

19. May he rest in peace

and may she find peace (and justice.) There have been very few details about this case especially the "why" factor. The paper will keep up with this story so maybe we may learn more soon.

[shaniqua6392]

2. Hell hath no fury

like a woman scorned?? I think a divorce was in order before she went to these lengths. I can not imagine getting that mad and my first husband was so abusive, he almost killed me. I wished he was dead for awhile there, but I could never do something like that.

[helderheid]

22. I'm only speculating but if she caught him sexually abusing her kids

that may trigger that kind of rage but as I've said, I'm speculating.

[ronnykmarshall]

28. Of course that explains it.

A woman could NEVER do anything that horrible unless she has a GOOD reason to do it!

:sarcasm:

[helderheid]

29. I never said it was a good reason. Just a possible one.

[ronnykmarshall]

35. Yes and those "girls" that killed in the Tate/LaBianca murders

possibly had a good reason too. I mean after all there were just "girls".

[helderheid]

38. And I repeat. I never said it was a GOOD REASON.

[ronnykmarshall]

41. But your first thought was ....

"oh that, that, MAN was probably abusing their kids ......... "

For someone that boast that they are "straight but not narrow" you sure passed judgment on this guy quickly.

[helderheid]

47. I NEVER said that man was probably abusing their kids. I said

that if he had, that might induce that kind of a rage. Quit assuming you know what I'm thinking. I said very clearly what I was thinking.

[ronnykmarshall]

49. OIC

[HEyHEY]

59. Don't you get it, man?

We need to find a reason for this guy to have deserved it.

[helderheid]

63. OH FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. I NEVER SAID HE DESERVED IT!

I never even said that he MIGHT have deserved it! I gave a possible reason she did it and stated TWICE it was speculation. I didn't even say that if the speculation turned out to be true, that he would have DESERVED IT. Would you people PLEASE READ MY POSTS without throwing your own ideas in it? For the record, IF HE HAD BEEN sexually abusing the children, I DON'T BELIEVE HE DESERVED TO DIE THIS WAY.

:rant:

[HEyHEY]

67. Whoa, chill out, don't go heating up the pot of oil, lady.

[helderheid]

68. Ok, Thanks for that. You actually made me giggle.

[HEyHEY]

82. Good!

See, we don't need to take EVERYTHING too seriously here.

[helderheid]

83. Can you tell I'm having a bad day? Heheheh

[slackmaster]

97. Maybe he was planning to leave because he figured out she is a psycho

:shrug:

[ronnykmarshall]

64. A penis?

[asthmaticeog]

69. Penii are a recipe for evil.

Guy slaps his GF = men are evil.

Woman murders BF with boiling oil = men are evil.

Don't they teach math in California? ;)

[satireV]

62. Actually the implication was there.

The way it was posted was that someone else other than the perpetrator caused the perpetrator's emotional behavior. This is a fallacious argument. Individuals are responsible for their own emotions, and should not blame others for how they feel.

[helderheid]

65. (boiling with rage) See post 63

[satireV]

70. Actually I prefer post 22 ...

Where it was posted:

that may trigger that kind of rage but as I've said, I'm speculating.

And this is what I was responding to... that the idea that the perp's rage or emotional behviour was caused by another. this is a fallacious argument.

[helderheid]

who's arguing? I was ... ahem... SPECULATING what could

ignite that kind of rage. Of course she could be a psychopath nut job pure evil. Or she could have been on drugs. Or, or, or...

[satireV]

77. I realize you are saying that.....

My point is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for another to control your emotions.

A person can claim that another person made them feel anger, but that is impossible.

[helderheid]

80. Did I say that? Of course no one controls someone else's emotions.

Certain events happen and there are a number of natural emotions that result from said event. If I saw someone sexually abusing my children, rage would be a natural emotion for me to experience. That doesn't excuse any behaviour I may act out but it may explain why someone does what they do RIGHT OR WRONG. I hope I'm being clear enough here. Obviously I haven't been thus far.

[madmusic]

93. UF STUDY: AMERICANS MORE LIKELY TO LET THEIR EMOTIONS DO THE BUYING

Aug. 1, 2002
Contact Information

GAINESVILLE, Fla. --- People really do let their emotions get the better of them when it comes to buying products sold in the consumer-driven U.S. economy, a new University of Florida study shows.

The national study shows that no matter what people may presume, feelings and emotions, not Spock-like logic, drive consumers to make even big-ticket purchases, said Jon Morris, an advertising professor in UF’s College of Journalism and Communications.

Emotions were nearly twice as important as knowledge in buying decisions, according to the nationwide study, which analyzed the responses of 23,168 people to 240 advertising messages in 13 categories, including a broad range of products ranging from durables such as cars and appliances to groceries and other nondurables. The results appear in the current issue of the Journal of Advertising Research released this week.

The findings - based on a considerably more sophisticated assessment tool to measure advertising reactions than has been used previously - refute past research, which demonstrates strong support for the idea that knowledge and believability determine whether consumers are interested in products and intend to buy them, Morris said.

“There has always been the argument that emotions are a factor in consumers’ buying decisions, but this is the first proof that emotions are a strong driver of whether people will buy a broad range of products,” Morris said. “If you ask someone why they’re buying a Lexus, they may say it’s the brake system or some design feature. The real reason is the kind of emotional judgment they’ve made about the car,” he said.

more:

http://www.napa.ufl.edu/2002news/ademotions.htm

Advertisers get away with this because so many pretend they can't be emotionally influenced. So since Americans don't acknowledge their emotions, they are easily manipulated. It's like the goodie-two-shoes who would be shocked if they remembered and tracked their own dreams and nightmares.

[Yupster]

72. Boy you sure are speculating

aren't you.

[helderheid]

73. Yes. SPECULATING. Jesus, forget it.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

95. Yeah, because only MEN are able to become psychopaths.

:sarcasm:

[hippiechick]

4. That is one terrible way to die.

Hmmmm. Must ponder for the next man who pisses me off. :evilgrin: <kidding>

[JerseygirlCT]

61. No kidding. I've been up close to those kinds of burns

and they're just horrible. Awful.

[Bill McBlueState]

5. the initial report was posted last week, but

It's news that the guy died. That's some messed up shit.

edited to add link to the original post discussing this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1805990

[Virginia Dare]

6. That is one mean bitch...

one can only imagine what he did to piss her off that much. Drugs and/or alcohol could have been a factor here too I suppose.

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[BOSSHOG]

8. Yo Jack

You might want to hide awhile.

[China_cat]

9. As a woman who took several years of severe abuse

I was at the point of seriously considering different ends for him. The more painful the better. I got lucky and managed to get out.

I did, however, jump for joy 2 years later when I found out he'd died. And I still believe it was the only good thing he ever did.

Edited to add that HIS name was Jack.

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[Bandit]

103. girls as young as nine years could be tortured in the name of Jesus.

Why do I think of Republicans when I read this kind of stuff? Those that think torture is just fine and in fact justified because of 9-11.In the name of Jesus.......God please protect me from your followers...

[cigsandcoffee]

104. It made me think of modern-day Iran.

[Fleshdancer]

26. not too different from acid splashing

men do this kind of stuff to women in other countries.

[HEyHEY]

60. Amen!

:hide:

[Catherine Vincent]

10. I wonder which is worse...hot grease or hot grits?

I don't think I want to find out. Singer Al Green knows about the hot grits. Ouch!

[Atman]

27. Hot biscuits or Sweet Marie?

Caught between the devil
and the deep blue sea.

[CatWoman]

43. Wonder if he dedicated "let's stay together" to her?

:hi:

[VOX]

11. Full story remains to be heard. Spousal abuse can end like this.

Need to hear the whole story. I'd be willing to bet that she was beaten for years, and finally reached the point where she thought she had no more options.

[BOSSHOG]

15. I don't know about "for years"

The newspaper story says the couple "were married only a short time."

[AngryAmish]

20. The guy asked for a divorce and she went nuts

That is what a poster in the original thread said.

[MazeRat7]

57. Pre-Meditated murder (w/malice) is never a viable option. (n/t)

[CanuckAmok]

87. DINGDINGDING!

"No options" is such a pile of shit.

Here's an option: Leave.

Here's an option: Call the police.

Here's an option: Pour hot grease all over your husband.



There are some here that will say that these are equally acceptable options.

[porphyrian]

12. I hope he deserved it, and I hope she realizes the consequences.

She isn't going to have much of a life from now on.

[ronnykmarshall]

30. How nice.

[porphyrian]

54. You have a problem with something I said?

Or do you enjoy how quaint it is to be a murderer on the run, whether or not previous abuse was involved? I can't tell from your post what you think is "nice."

[ronnykmarshall]

71. It's a term I got from a joke about two proper southern women.

Inside I'm laughing my ass off right now.

[porphyrian]

74. Freaky, but whatever. - n/t

[Blue-Jay]

81. You HOPE he deserved it?

Jesus fucking christ.

[porphyrian]

84. Yeah, otherwise he was horribly murdered for no reason.

Did I speak alien or something? You're the second person to act like I said something crazy.

[LoZoccolo]

101. "You're the second person to act like I said something crazy."

Wull gee...

[enid602]

13. nice lady

She probably makes the kids bob for french fries on their birthdays.

[Posteritatis]

18. "I laughed in spite of myself and am thus REALLY bad" award for you! (nt)

[Midlodemocrat]

14. Someone in the original thread near the end knew the victim

and indicated that there was no spousal abuse involved.

[Lars39]

37. No. Someone in a previous thread *claimed* they knew him

and that there was no spousal abuse. Big difference.

[Midlodemocrat]

42. I have no reason to disbelieve that poster.

I haven't interacted with him or her and have no reason to be suspicious about what they posted.

[ronnykmarshall]

39. They were lying.

Anyone that is friends with a "male" is a liar and can not be trusted.

:sarcasm:

[Midlodemocrat]

44. Uh, oh. That means me.

Wish I had known previously before those guys and I became friends.

What to do. What to do.

[ronnykmarshall]

48. GASP!!

Turn in your ovaries RIGHT NOW, young lady!!

[Midlodemocrat]

51. That's okay. I'm done with them anyway!

:hi:

[ronnykmarshall]

53. G'on girl!

:loveya:

[malaise]

17. A horrible story

Indeed.

[Touchdown]

21. God! listen to you people. He must've deserved it?

Without knowing any details of this story, or relationship other than they were married a short time, he asked for a divorce, and a possibility that no spousal abuse was reported, he still must've been abusing her mentally and physically for decades and he deserves having a 1/2 gallon of hot oil spilled on him. Sick people, the lot of you. :puke:

I guess it's that Oprah conditioning. That no woman could be a violent sociopath entirely on her own, and that only men can make them do crazy things. Just like the Oprah crew's other favorite double standard...if he cheats, he's a selfish pig who needs to be thrown to the curb. If she cheats, then he wasn't fulfilling his manly duties in satisfying her, and she had no choice but to look elsewhere for fulfillment.:eyes:

Reminds me of that Bobbit fellow who didn't give his wife any sex, so she sawed his dick off and threw it in a park. Women cheered her on.

It's threads like these, where I feel sorry for straight guys.

[Atman]

25. He was wearing a mini skirt and halter top.

That's my guess.

[BlooInBloo]

31. If there weren't 1000s of yrs of past bad behavior on men's part...

... You would have a point. But there is, so you don't. Instead you're just spouting the typical false moral equivalence bullshit.

Of course a woman COULD be a violent sociopath on her own. Over humanity's history though, violent acts by woman are so much more likely to be the conclusion of a process that involves mistreatment by men than not, that you'd have to be a fool, or thoroughly sexist, to not suspect something similar in a NEW instance of violent female behavior.

So sayeth a straight man.

[ronnykmarshall]

That's a bunch of shit ....................

and this is sayeth a gay man who was in two abusive relationships.

[cgrindley]

34. Wrong

It's thoroughly sexist to assert that "violent acts by woman are so much more likely to be the conclusion of a process that involves mistreatment by men than not."

This is hurtful and biased propaganda, destructive and wrongheaded. An insult.

I don't care if you claim to be a man. If you are, you certainly don't know what you're talking about.

[Touchdown]

36. Ok, so you get a pass for jumping to conclusions

...and you are spouting the sisterhood stands together no matter what because of the patriarchy bullshit.

So sayeth a gay man, who doesn't need to pander to get some.;)

[EstimatedProphet]

76. So what?

Is your argument really that, because of thousands of years of bad behavior by men, THIS PARTICULAR MAN deserved to be tortured?

There is not one thing posted here about what happened to lead up to this event. Therefore, your point about men being terrible through history is a complete assumption on your part, and is no more valid than claiming that the woman was a baby-eating psychopath.

[ronnykmarshall]

33. Thank you Touchdown!

I can't believe the bullshit I'm reading. No, I take the back I DO believe what I'm reading.

Jesus Christ ala mode. People here don't know SHIT for Shinola about this case and their knee JERK reaction is .... "oh he was probably beating her" ..... "I hope he deserved it".

Can a woman be a fucked up evil bitch? OH NOOOOOOOOOOO !!!! I'm sure Lizzy fucking Borden would be a "feminist heroine" around here.

[LisaM]

46. What are you talking about? Lorena Bobbitt was abused

by her husband.

[Touchdown]

56. Not according to her testimony.

She stated her reason for her Medievil butchery..."He didn't give me no sex. I want sex too!"

[ronnykmarshall]

75. Didn't she also beat the shit out of her mother?

This was years after those two freaks divorced.

I think BOTH of them were fucked up

[Touchdown]

79. Don't remember that either.

I do recall they they were both sleazy scum. He went into porno after he got it re-attached. Like anybody wants to see THAT!:puke:

[helderheid]

58. Didn't giver her any sex? The man was RAPING her.

[Touchdown]

66. Didn't see that testimony in the court case.

I saw that story on a bunch of daytime shout shows though.

[TahitiNut]

78. Well, heaven knows a woman can't be 100% responsible for her own behavior.

:eyes: :sarcasm: :puke:

To hear some on DU, women are only reactive - driven solely by how they're treated by their husbands.

It's really stunning.

[CanuckAmok]

89. Hear Hear.

My ex, who knew the phenomenon first-hand, called it "FOC" (feminism of convenience).

I find it loathsome that some people pervert the ideology of feminism and exploit preconceived stereotypes to justify their appalling behaviour.

[TahitiNut]

91. "FOC" ... I like that. FOC'd up, indeed.

I can't begin to count the times some FOCer claimed "feminine intuition" or the (near-)disability of PMS. It just stuns me to the point I feel like playing Crocodile Dundee and doing a crotch-check.

With 'advocacy' like that, who needs opponents?

[Fleshdancer]

23. The husband died

his death was reported a few days ago I think.

This is a horrible, disgusting, sad story. I don't know how anyone could do something like this.

[Midlodemocrat]

52. As someone who has burned herself numerous times with hot oil

while cooking, I can't imagine doing that to another human being. It is simply horrifying.

[cgrindley]

32. Women are just as violent as men in relationships

I find it grotesque that the system so frequently rewards or lionizes women who commit extremely serious and violent acts against men. It's disgusting.

[slackmaster]

55. It does happen, I was a victim of female violence myself

My ex-wife continued to drink more alcohol than she could handle safely after starting to take a prescription antidepressant. The bad synergy caused her to do things that were out of character, like bashing my head into a car door in response to a paranoid delusion that I was having affairs. (I'd put money on the paranoia being another symptom of the antidepressant and/or mixing it with booze.)

[CanuckAmok]

86. Yeah, but it's *cute* when women do it.

I refuse to use DU's stupid "sarcasm" smiley. I trust it won't be necessary.

It's funny how the images of the frying pan/rolling pin are societally accepted icons of "cute" female violence, and how John Wayne Bobbitt's torture and disfigurement was the subject of wholly-acceptable tittering even from the so-called "progressive left".

Someone I know quite well was struck upside his head with an iron during a big argument with his live-in GF. Knocked him cold for a few seconds. He called the cops. They arrived and made jokes about it. He had to go to emerg, and the medical staff made quips about it: "whew, what did you do to deserve THIS" being the one that really set it off.

I'm going to say it: Women who commit acts of domestic violence are not prosecuted to the same degree as are men. And it seems that when they *are* prosecuted, they fall back on all kinds of crap about being "driven to it" (the 'burning bed defence'), which is widely accepted as valid. That is basically saying the victims in those cases are guilty of causing the violence! Appalling.

Now I'm done ranting. Let me begin the responses in advance:

"Blah blah blah blah patriarchy. Blah blah blah Camille Paglia blah blah. Blah blah blah blah, blah backlash blah blah. Blah blah blah men need to be more blah blah blah. Men need to be less blah blah blah blah blaming women blah. Blah blah blah systematic violence blah blah. Blah blah blah every right to defend herself blah blah. Blah blah Catholicism blah blah. Blah blah system of violence blah blah blah. Blah blah Sontag blah blah Atwood blah."

[slackmaster]

96. Thanks - It's sure not "cute" for someone on the receiving end

:toast:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

98. A bath of boiling oil can only be "cute" if you're Josef Mengele. -nt

[stepnw1f]

40. Holy Shhh..... That is Sick!

My God.... what a way to go... awful.

[Midlodemocrat]

45. I'm female. I have met and known some unbelievably nasty women

in my years. I think it is absolutely possible that she did it because she is a cruel witch. I don't think women are above this type of crime.

Of course, it is all speculation at this point until they catch her and she tells her story.

I feel very sorry for this man because that is a horrible way to die. And, I feel for those kids.

[MazeRat7]

50. Life with no chance of parole.. its was pre-meditated murder w/malice. n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

85. I Hope She Gets Fucked As Hard As Possible By The Justice System.

Someone as evil as her should never see the light of day again.

[ContraBass Black]

88. Ugly metaphor.

But yes, prosecution is in order.

[kentuck]

90. He died ?

I think I read?

[mcscajun]

102. Third-degree burns over 50% of your body will do that.

http://www.nbc10.com/news/9645773/detail.html

[RB TexLa]

92. I'm sure that Nancy Gracy thing will explain to all of us how she has a

syndrome and he was guilty.

[madmusic]

94. Do women get in relationships like this because they want to kill?

In the other thread, a lot of women said they thought about doing the same thing, or actually threatened to do it. Wouldn't a woman capable of doing this already have that ability somewhere in the back of her mind? Does she hook up with someone so she has a good excuse to do it? Maybe battered women hang around not because they are scared of the man, but because they want to kill him but haven't had the guts yet. Maybe they always wanted to kill.

Kind of like them rotten men joining the military so they have a good excuse to kill.

[Beelzebud]

99. It was only a man. I'm sure it had it coming for one thing or another.

She was just depressed and full of good intentions.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[hogwyld]

100. The guy obviously deserved this...

He had a penis, hence it was all his fault. :sarcasm: