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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:02 PM Original message |
Church tells Katrina mom it's time to go |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Lemme get this straight... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Deleted sub-thread |
Lusted4 (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
259. Delete |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. She's got two kids in diapers, ferkrissakes! |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Looks like you and I are the only ones with any sympathy for this |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Oh I sympathize |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
64. I'm not sure that's the case, either |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. She can get TANF for 5 years |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
269. I"m not surprised. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. As I said, I sympathize. That doesn't excuse her behavior. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. That is the same line |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. So, tell me, how is the church at fault? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. Good question! |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. where again was the curch at fault |
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bigluckyfeet (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
296. Let Me Add |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:41 PM Original message |
Care to answer it, or are you more comfortable making generalizations? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. I see, you don't want to address the question. That's fine. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
135. also a car etc. |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. Your reply is totally uncalled for. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
123. So they could move in with you, then, right? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #123 |
264. How many unemployed mothers of three do you having living w/you? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #264 |
270. My church is helping several |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #123 |
319. If I weren't living in a small studio |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #319 |
327. Do "real" christians put conditions on their charity? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Applause, applause, applause! n/t |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
318. Bullshit! |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #318 |
326. And a "true christian" would be grateful for the charity... |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
76. So she should live in the church until the kids are potty trained? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
280. Read the article - she DID have a job |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
260. From the article itself: |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. How about their behavior towards HER?? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Yeah, we carried you through the worst of your pregnancy. The |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Can I get an AMEN?? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
113. AMEN! |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
103. A parsonage is not a "summer home" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #103 |
193. She lost everything in a hurricane |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #193 |
196. So, let her move in with you |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #196 |
278. No I think your house would be better |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #193 |
199. They had an agreement. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. that's right...they only let her stay there 11 months |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I want more information |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. reply#32, should be criticizing the church. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I think kicking her out is heartless |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. did you read the article? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Yes especially this part: |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. This part too? It sounds like a hard situation for all. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. They apparently don't love her enough |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Love means taking care of someone forever? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. They didn't take her in because they love her |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. You seem to have no idea of what you are talking about here. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. I am not insulting anyone |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #100 |
110. You are insulting. This church has worked with many poor people. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. Nah you can always live in a car |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. You are insulting UCC |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. They offer help to pregnant Katrina victims, give them a timeline, |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #120 |
125. agreement was until June 2006. It is now August. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. Never place a period where God has placed a comma. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #127 |
133. what does that have to do with their agreement until June? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #133 |
143. assured her she would be allowed to live in the parsonage until Dec 31 |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Verbal agreement was until June. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #143 |
263. She's the only one stating the Dec 31 date. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:17 PM Response to Reply #120 |
277. Yep that's what I see here too |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:07 PM Response to Reply #118 |
203. Oh so this is YOUR church? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #203 |
207. What church is yours? And when wil it take over the aid of this woman? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #207 |
275. Since I live about 1000 miles away that would be kind of silly |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:14 PM Response to Reply #203 |
215. They mean the UCC denomination |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #215 |
217. Okay, proud2belib, what denomination is yours, |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #203 |
222. I am UCC, yes. And yes, I know more about them than you do. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #222 |
276. The problem here is not with the UCC |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. yeah...YOU know their motives |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #91 |
129. How many Katina victims are you housing? nt |
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spacelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #91 |
291. Oprah should take her in, it would not be a hardship for Oprah. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #291 |
328. Yeah! Damn that uncharitable, godless Oprah! |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. they loved her more than most |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #89 |
108. Did they think they were magically going to lift her out of poverty? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #108 |
136. Most UCCs don't believe in that kind of "heaven" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #136 |
185. Oh yes I have spent many many years working with the poor |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #185 |
188. Your reply makes no sense to what you are responding to. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #188 |
197. And all you are doing is attacking my posts |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #197 |
214. calling you on your nonsensical answers. Not attacking. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:25 PM Response to Reply #214 |
282. How do you know about this particular church? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #282 |
313. ...and yet you're convinced you know their motivations. How "silly". |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #313 |
315. Which part of they are kicking her out |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #315 |
316. I understand that part just fine. What part of "until July 2006" gives |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #108 |
141. Most UCCers don't believe in that kind of heaven. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. Was that a serious comment??? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:12 PM Response to Reply #90 |
109. How's that no grey area thinking working for you? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #109 |
122. You think MY thinking is "no grey area"??? |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #79 |
107. Well you apparently don't love her either. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:15 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. They are heartless for kicking her out |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. That is good. Let us know how it goes please, having her live with you |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #111 |
126. Deleted message |
LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #111 |
128. Indefinitely? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #111 |
138. Good |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #111 |
144. Perhaps they should have just let her stay in her tent? Jeez. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #144 |
187. They could have just bought her an air conditioner then |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:06 PM Original message |
Instead, they gave her free housing, food and a car |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I agree. n/t |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. then no one should ever take someone in... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. You help someone like this NOT because of what it costs you |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I bet the church would appreciate your calling and offering to help her |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. We are helping many Katrina victims right here in my community |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. That is good that your community is involved. Are you saying I'm not? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. I am answering your command that I should get involved |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Deleted message |
ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. it is not neo-con thinking that you are talking about |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. I never said that. n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. Yes it is repulsive |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. I never realized there were so many DUers angry with Katrina victims. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. It's an American trait |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #104 |
119. You both are totally out of line. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #119 |
130. "Never place a period where God has placed a comma." n/t |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #130 |
139. A meaningless reply. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #139 |
146. Tell that to UCC then. It's their saying. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. no, it is an advertising thing. Not our saying. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #148 |
152. It's advertising UCC, isn't it? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. advertising slogan for UCC. Not UCC saying. There is a difference |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. What's the difference? If it isn't UCC approved and paid for by UCC, |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #155 |
160. You do want to pick a fight don't you? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. I don't want to pick a fight. I'm not angry. I wanted to understand |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #130 |
181. Why don't you contact the church and offer your place |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #181 |
190. Not a Christian. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #190 |
195. So? Bet Ms. Moran and kids would be happy to take you up on a place |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:07 PM Response to Reply #190 |
204. What difference does that make? nt |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #130 |
246. They've found her another place to live for another 6 months |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #119 |
180. They are kicking her out!! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. they had an agreement. This is what it was. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:09 PM Response to Reply #182 |
206. I'll bet they put it in writing from now on |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #206 |
322. I bet they do too. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #83 |
97. Have you sold all of your possessions to help these people? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #97 |
106. Oh give me a break |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:15 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. I'm not the one making the claim that charity must be limitless. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #112 |
183. When did I say THAT? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:07 PM Response to Reply #183 |
201. You've condemned the church for not providing more support |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #201 |
209. No I don't think you can or should put a limit on helping |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #209 |
218. "Without limit" is the definition of "limitless", is it not? |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. "The church should never have taken her in" |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
87. so if you have to set a limit on what you can give |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:37 PM Response to Reply #69 |
239. It seems that |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
283. Yep, because, being a church, they are automatically bad people. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. but you judge the church right off... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. She just had a baby 4 months ago and has two other babies. n/t |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. and they need the space |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. She expected them to support her forever? |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
81. IN FOUR MONTHS.. they are giving her FOUR more months.. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah, why can't she get one, two, or even three full time jobs |
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GrumpyGreg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. In 11 months she should have got her act together. I don't blame the |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Did you read the second page of article? |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Sounds like the preacher wants to move back in. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Sounds like that to me, too. n/t |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. I bet they also pay the utilities and insurance for the parsonage. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
147. Nearly all clergy get housing provided |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Three babies she can't afford... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. as above, read the article |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I'd say he'd better figure out a way to support them. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. He dumped her. Men do that, you know. n/t |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Dumping her doesn't alleviate his responsibility to the kids. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. What if he is in prison or dead? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. please look to post #44 |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
61. If he was dead, the article would have said so. |
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Freedom_Aflaim (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
116. If he's in prison wouldnt that be HIS fault ??? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
151. He's done NOTHING to help his own progeny |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
184. Doesn't make it anyone else's reponsibility nt |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 11:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
329. SOME men. There are those of us who don't, you know. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
47. Yes all these welfare queens should just give their babies away!! |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Especially the ones that got pregnant before Katrina hit! n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. And I need another AMEN! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. snort. |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
68. Sorry, I didn't know you were offering to pay for her kids. |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
268. Maybe When Poor People have Children They Can't Afford |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #268 |
271. How much help are they required to give her? |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #271 |
273. Why Does it Matter |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
285. People who can't afford children should not be having them. |
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spacelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
308. Well, you said it, she is 23 years old with 3 children, don't these grown |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. Complicated issue here |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. Looks like the church did evrything BUT give her lifetime support. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. She just had a baby 4 months ago. She was pregnant the whole |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. You do realize "the church" is UCC, right? |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. 11 months is long enough to |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Uh, hate to be cold but track down the fathers |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. She does have a place to go. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
80. And then what? |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Hmm.. she has 4 months left at the church.. 6 months in WINGS. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #85 |
124. The move to Wings would be another upheaval, another adjustment. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #124 |
140. 6 more months of a roof over her head, maybe? |
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TexasLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
10. Cautionary tale |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. The saddest thing is the cons will label her as a liberal! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. another sad thing is people will pass judgment without knowing enough |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. True, but with my life experiences with people, she's acting like a Repub |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
137. she's acting like an overwhelmed woman....possibly depressed |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #137 |
309. Hell I'm depressed too. Under Bush I now work for 1986 wages. |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. I'd think the saddest thing is |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
73. Yep. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
39. WHO KNOWS ENOUGH TO PASS JUDGEMENT? |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Thank you! I don't know enough to pass judgment. I wish her well. nt |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
132. Why don't you take her? |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #132 |
149. Are you speaking to me? n/t |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #132 |
169. Since you didn't respond, I'll assume you meant to reply to |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. STOP THAT RIGHT NOW |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I LIKE TO TYPE IN CAPS WHEN ANNOYED! |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. please don't take that as a shot at you :-) |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. no problem, I didn't, I agree |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
78. The church, more than likely |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
84. I know enuff to see that she has been there a year.. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
51. Doesn't the Bush admin and his Congress give all kinds of |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
158. Not to UCC churches it doesn't |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #158 |
174. Interesting. I didn't think the denomination would matter. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:56 PM Response to Reply #174 |
177. I think UCC is too librul to tie itself to what bushites want them to do |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
72. A year sounds like enough time to get back on your feet.. |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
94. there's no such thing as a lazy mother of THREE KIDS. |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. Passing judgement |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #102 |
121. the signs of post-partum depression are staring right at us |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #121 |
131. Bill Frist? Is that you? |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #131 |
150. and yet everyone can diagnose her as lazy? how cute. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. which "everyone" is diagnosing her as lazy? |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #153 |
192. mea culpa, not everyone is doing this but... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:07 PM Response to Reply #192 |
202. She does need help. My goodness, having 3 kids that young |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #150 |
157. I haven't seen many "lazy" accusations here...just "ungrateful" |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #157 |
211. is she complaining? it sounds more like a misunderstanding on the |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #150 |
159. WHY is she supporting three kids on her own? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:56 PM Response to Reply #159 |
176. Maybe her religion forbids birth control. n/t |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #176 |
189. That still makes her, and the father(s) responsible for the kids. nt |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #159 |
220. I want the fathers to be there too |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #131 |
175. Yes, you are. n/t |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #175 |
178. No, I'm pointing out the unrelaibility of long-distance diagnoses... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #178 |
198. Okay. Go back to your first post in this thread and see if |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #198 |
210. I'm not upset and I stand by that statement. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #210 |
221. Coupla things. We don't really know what happened, do we? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #221 |
241. Again, I'm saying that diagnosing PPD from an article is unreliable. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #241 |
244. Oh, I completely agree with you on that. n/t |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #121 |
134. I don't expect her to pull it together in 11 months |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #121 |
324. I agree. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
105. Well said. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #94 |
117. Exactly. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BEING |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
323. You apparently never met my ex-wife. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
142. Some apparently just like bashing churches ... any church |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #142 |
162. Some well meaning "helpers" should get a clue about |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #162 |
172. And, question: is the word "Katrina" used as a preface |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #172 |
191. The church helped her for 11 months |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #191 |
200. Yes? And? n/t |
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spacelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #172 |
317. As in everything changed after Katrina? |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #162 |
173. Next time they might think twice about helping. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #173 |
216. After "this kind of response"? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #216 |
219. They DID help her |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #219 |
225. When did this become about me? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #225 |
226. did you read this? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #225 |
228. It became about you when you started judging others |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #228 |
230. That's hilarious. Paternalism? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #230 |
232. Common sense says 11 months of free housing, food and |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:35 PM Original message |
Nope. Go fish on the recovery time from a delivery |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
240. I've never known any woman who took 14 months to go back to work |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #240 |
243. I believe that you have never known what it takes for women |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:47 PM Response to Reply #243 |
245. Again, I've never seen a woman take that long to resume activities |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #245 |
247. could be. There is no 1 right answer most of the time |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #247 |
249. My contract, and that of my colleagues |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #245 |
248. Maybe if you haven't seen it, it isn't true? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #248 |
250. Or it is true just because you make the claim, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #250 |
252. Well, now there's a good point. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #252 |
253. You should have found some church to give you everything you |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #253 |
254. There's a compelling argument. n/t |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #254 |
256. I must admit |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:02 PM Response to Reply #256 |
258. I sprung for one website which was about what my recently |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #258 |
262. I actually know real, live women |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #262 |
265. I have made no snide remarks about you. |
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spacelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #248 |
320. Yes, it can be true in rare cases, why do you think it is true in this |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #228 |
234. you answered below, thanks. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #173 |
227. I'm sure it will be a learning experience all the way 'round. n/t |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
156. 3 kids Under 5?! That's a FULL TIME JOB! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #156 |
164. do you really feel you know enough to judge either the woman or church? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #156 |
165. So, she and the kids can stay at your house? |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. So you and your 3 kids under 5 have been homeless? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. If I had 3 kids under 5, their father would be taking some responsibility |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #171 |
179. You don't know why he isn't. |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #179 |
186. None of that matters when judging the church. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #179 |
194. I do know that she was given 11 months of free housing, food and a car |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #156 |
170. No compassion? Get real! |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #156 |
297. They didn't *owe her* shit. |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #156 |
321. You hit the nail on the head. What hardened people there are on here. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
161. I think they are right. But they need to give her time |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. they did. here is from article |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #161 |
167. What they did was laudable. That anyone has to rely on |
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pooja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
205. hate to flame more... but I was affected by a hurricane.. literally |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #205 |
208. Um...she did have a job, the article reports. |
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pooja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #208 |
223. in a whole year she couldn't find a job? bull shit!!!!! |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. She HAD a job. Read the article. n/t |
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pooja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #224 |
233. and she left when her boss was fired to focus on children... |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #233 |
236. Well, good to know you have the moral high ground, then. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #233 |
238. What you need... |
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pooja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #238 |
242. I would not be too proud to take help when I needed it, but making |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #205 |
212. Thank you for that, |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #205 |
213. You didn't mention if you were pregnant and had another child |
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pooja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #213 |
229. sorry, I didn't happen to be preggers then, but dealing with a child |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #229 |
231. Gee and haw! |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #231 |
235. That assumes there's a man around |
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pooja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:35 PM Response to Reply #231 |
237. i get a lot of expressions from my mother... it always shocks the |
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countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
251. Quite a thread. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #251 |
255. Which would require her meeting with them, which she has refused to do |
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pooja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #251 |
257. There is compassion and help and then there is taking advantage of |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #257 |
261. Food, clothing and even a car... This dead beat is out to beat |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #251 |
266. READ THE ARTICLE.... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #251 |
267. You said it-The "compassionate conservatives" abound on this thread! |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
272. Bottom line: The church is kicking the mom & her kids to the curb! |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #272 |
274. The church agreed to provide housing until July 2006. They did that. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #274 |
279. Walk a mile in that moms shoes...oops you can't because you're a guy. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #279 |
286. You seem to be confusing two separate issues. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #286 |
299. No...The disconnect is yours. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #299 |
307. I'd disagree. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #307 |
310. Bottom line-The mom is still homeless. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #310 |
311. Fair enough. We agree to disagree. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #279 |
293. How do you know what all the church did? How do you know what she did? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #274 |
290. Good comparison. Thank you, |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #272 |
289. good, high time they stopped enabling this crap |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
281. As someone who deals with Katrina "victims" on a daily basis... |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #281 |
288. are you in collections, duckie? |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #288 |
292. I'm not in Collections. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #292 |
304. i'm sorry that so many are behaving badly |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #292 |
306. So you expect-no demand-that people be current on a ruined pile of rubble? |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #288 |
294. "Worst of the worst" because they're losing their house? |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #294 |
302. hundreds of thousands lost their house last year |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #302 |
312. You have a very warped out look. |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #302 |
314. If I could kick and recommend a reply it would be this one. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
284. no good deed goes unpunished |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #284 |
298. What a great post. |
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countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #284 |
305. "the obnoxious and the greedy push themselves |
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spacelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
287. Why, oh WHY does her name have to be Moran???? It makes it so hard |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #287 |
295. I know, I know. I have been trying hard to not comment either. |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
300. Well at least they took her in. Who is going to help her now? |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #300 |
301. Not me! |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #301 |
303. I don't have the resources living on a fixed income and all. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
325. What you do unto the least of these, you do unto Me. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
330. This thread is disgusting n/t |
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331. Locking |
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