Go BIG or go home. re: filibuster

[Lerkfish]

I posted this in another thread, but thought it might be an ok topic of its own.

To avoid filibustering is not only to be impotent, but it means you gelded yourself.
If the republicans were reasonable and fair adversaries, then keeping your powder dry would make sense. But let me couch it this way:
If you were a Jew in 1940s germany, would you think it better to stand up and possibly be sent to a camp, or collaborate with the nazis?
Even if you are unsucessful, sometimes the situation is so dire that you either have to stand up against tyrants or you become complicit in their crimes.


Sometimes the act of standing up is more important than the outcome of that act.
And yet, sometimes, the act of standing up draws more likeminded people to your act of bravery, and then you have a lot MORE power.

No leader ever drew more followers by capitulating to the enemy, that I'm aware of.

as my uncle used to say "Go BIG or go home".

If THEY don't do it, no one else is in their position to do so. They owe it to the american people to do everything in their power, even if unsucessful, and EVEN IF IT MEANS NOT GETTING REELECTED, to serve the people. We hired them to do a job. We didn't hire them to protect their own employment. Public service is a sacred trust and its about damn time we got back to realizing that.

[Dhalgren]

1. Dead on! Well said!

K&R

[sendero]

2. I agree...

....it is do or die time for the Dem senate. This nominee is clearly unsuitable, basically taking the 5th on every question he was asked.

Dems should mount a filibuster effort, and the leadership should twist arms as hard as is necessary to prevent any Dem from voting for cloture.

If the Republicans dare to use the Nuclear Option, let them. It will be their long term loss, and frankly I'm not sure they will have the votes to do it. Not everybody in the senate is willing to toss out time-honored rules for a temporary gain, nor do they all believe that they will be in power forever.

There a many good reasons to deny Alito a seat on the court. I can't think of one single good reason not to mount a filibuster - and I think the public reaction to Dems STANDING UP FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE will be POSITIVE.

[Lerkfish]

4. I think by threatening the nuclear option, they have proven they cannot

be trusted to negotiate fairly.
THEREFORE, it is even more demented to withold the filibuster, because they have shown they will not honor the gang of 14 agreement.
Why should ANYONE honor an agreement that the other side ignores?

[NV Whino]

3. If we do not stand and fight

we have no hope of ever pulling any of the moderate Republicans to our side. They are not going to jeopardize their jobs by jumping on a disorganized and broken band wagon. If we stand firm and give them a solid platform to join, they just might make the jump. and enough of them might make the jump to make a difference.

If our representatives do not stand and fight, we may as well not vote for them. Why vote for someone who continually supports the opposition, or better said, refuses to oppose the opposition? We may as well vote for the opposition in the first place. We, as constituents, have nothing to lose since our reps don't represent our views. They do. Maybe that is what it will take to remove the DINOs.

Hear that, DiFi?

[mom cat]

7. Olympia Snowe has vowed not to go nuclear. i bet that she will not be the

only one to vote against it or at least abstain.

[mopinko]

5. look around at your primary races.

any of these collaborates with a contest better f'ing loose!

[samhsarah]

6. Hell yeah!!!!

K&R!!:yourock: :headbang: :patriot: :kick: